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stanton · 03-23-2003, 03:24 PM

Prety ironic and sad

Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...

Juicy D. Links · 03-23-2003, 03:25 PM

How come I was never invited to this Geneva Convention party?

directfiesta · 03-23-2003, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
How come I was never invited to this Geneva Convention party?

no pussy present ....

stocktrader23 · 03-23-2003, 03:26 PM

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Originally posted by stanton
Prety ironic and sad

Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...

The ironic part is that they say he is agains the Geneva convention because they are interviewing them and it's embarassing. How is our reporters digging through Iraqi POWs belongings and shoving a camera in their face any different.

Amputate Your Head · 03-23-2003, 03:27 PM

and why shouldn't we expect them to... we treat our POWs humanely.

NineNine · 03-23-2003, 03:29 PM

I think it's funny... the US bombs and slaughters thousands, but gets upset if somebody shows a fucking picture of a dead American on TV. For christ's sake, it's war. The media SHOULD be showign pictures of dead people so every gung-ho fucknut out there understands that there are real people dying for no good reason.

Amputate Your Head · 03-23-2003, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by NineNine
I think it's funny... the US bombs and slaughters thousands, but gets upset if somebody shows a fucking picture of a dead American on TV. For christ's sake, it's war. The media SHOULD be showign pictures of dead people so every gung-ho fucknut out there understands that there are real people dying for no good reason.

were you born stupid or did you have to work at it?

JeremySF · 03-23-2003, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by NineNine
I think it's funny... the US bombs and slaughters thousands, but gets upset if somebody shows a fucking picture of a dead American on TV. For christ's sake, it's war. The media SHOULD be showign pictures of dead people so every gung-ho fucknut out there understands that there are real people dying for no good reason.

the reason it's inappropriate to show the dead americans on tv is that their family has yet to be notified. grow up! imagine if the first time you learned your significant other was killed was on Al Jazeera.

xxxdesign-net · 03-23-2003, 03:32 PM

conventions and rules for war?? haha

You attack criminal dictators that kill their own people but expect them to follow conventions and rules for war???

Rumsfeld makes me laugh....

PersianKitty · 03-23-2003, 03:33 PM

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Originally posted by stanton
Prety ironic and sad

Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...

uh..how is it against the Geneva Convention to start a war? The Geneva Convention deals with the treatment of prisoners of war and innocents in the middle of warring actions.

Need the full text??

http://193.194.138.190/html/menu3/b/91.htm

dav555add · 03-23-2003, 03:34 PM

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Originally posted by NineNine
I think it's funny... the US bombs and slaughters thousands, but gets upset if somebody shows a fucking picture of a dead American on TV. For christ's sake, it's war. The media SHOULD be showign pictures of dead people so every gung-ho fucknut out there understands that there are real people dying for no good reason.

directfiesta?

xxxdesign-net · 03-23-2003, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by JeremySF

the reason it's inappropriate to show the dead americans on tv is that their family has yet to be notified. grow up! imagine if the first time you learned your significant other was killed was on Al Jazeera.

huh... Al Jazeera is a middle east news station... NOt broadcasting in the united states...

HungSolo · 03-23-2003, 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

The ironic part is that they say he is agains the Geneva convention because they are interviewing them and it's embarassing. How is our reporters digging through Iraqi POWs belongings and shoving a camera in their face any different.

Every post you've made today has simply been a "Yeah down with the big bad evil America" type statement. Is that all you know how to do is to jump on the anti-war/anti america bandwagon?

HungSolo · 03-23-2003, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by NineNine
I think it's funny... the US bombs and slaughters thousands, but gets upset if somebody shows a fucking picture of a dead American on TV. For christ's sake, it's war. The media SHOULD be showign pictures of dead people so every gung-ho fucknut out there understands that there are real people dying for no good reason.

Slaughtered 1000's ???

mule · 03-23-2003, 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by Amputate Your Head
and why shouldn't we expect them to... we treat our POWs humanely.

Like in Guantanamo Bay?

xxxdesign-net · 03-23-2003, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by HungSolo

Every post you've made today has simply been a "Yeah down with the big bad evil America" type statement. Is that all you know how to do is to jump on the anti-war/anti america bandwagon?

WTF are you talking about... the guy is american...
There's a big difference with being anti-war or not approving some Bush decisions and being anti-American!!

HungSolo · 03-23-2003, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

WTF are you talking about... the guy is american...
There's a bid difference with being anti-war or not approving some Bush decisions and being anti-American!!

I know he's American. That doesn't change the fact that his posts today have been as I described.

stanton · 03-23-2003, 03:45 PM

I am not Anti-American

I am just saying that Bush does actions which are very irrational and then he wants others to play by the rules...

JeremySF · 03-23-2003, 03:49 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

huh... Al Jazeera is a middle east news station... NOt broadcasting in the united states...

what are you talking about? I get it on Comcast here in California. j/k

In all seriousness, they LICENSE their content elsewhere. I've seen Al Jazeera on many stations.

JeremySF · 03-23-2003, 03:51 PM

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Originally posted by mule

Like in Guantanamo Bay?

please explain exactly how they were treated inhumanely in Guantanamo. I guarantee you that my hell week for fraternity initiation was 100x worse than what they went through. They weren't tortured or beaten like I'm sure Iraq will do to our POWs.

NineNine · 03-23-2003, 04:01 PM

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Originally posted by HungSolo

Slaughtered 1000's ???

Uh yeah... what do you think has been going on in Iraq? Fireworks? It's insane. "We're allowed to kill thousands of your people, but please make sure that our guys who do the killing get a nice, hot meal." That's fucking insane.

mule · 03-23-2003, 04:02 PM

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Originally posted by JeremySF

please explain exactly how they were treated inhumanely in Guantanamo.

You don't read the news, or was it just censored in the States?

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I guarantee you that my hell week for fraternity initiation was 100x worse than what they went through.

LOL, in my book putting up with that sort of medieval shit makes you an idiot

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They weren't tortured or beaten like I'm sure Iraq will do to our POWs.

How the fuck can you just make assumptions like that?

Amputate Your Head · 03-23-2003, 04:03 PM

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Originally posted by mule

How the fuck can you just make assumptions like that?

Iraq's track record speaks for itself.

stocktrader23 · 03-23-2003, 04:10 PM

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Originally posted by HungSolo

Every post you've made today has simply been a "Yeah down with the big bad evil America" type statement. Is that all you know how to do is to jump on the anti-war/anti america bandwagon?

How is that statement anti-war or anti-America? If anything it's anti-retardation. First of all Saddam thinks we are wrong for going to Iraq and blowing it to hell. Who is going to be suprised if he doesn't treat POW's correctly. Second, I said it's ironic that they are bitching about them interviewing our POW's because it's embarassing but they allow our reporters to rifle through their shit and stick a camera in the face of the ones that are obviously covering up so not to be seen. How is that statement anti-American or anti-war? Grow the fuck up.

KC · 03-23-2003, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by stanton
Prety ironic and sad

Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...

Have you read the Geneva Convention?

Iraq and the US both signed the "Geneva Convention Relative to the Treatment of War", therefore it applies.

http://www.aiipowmia.com/legis/geneva1950.html

Article 2

In addition to the provisions which shall be implemented in peace time, the present Convention shall apply to all cases of declared war or of any other armed conflict which may arise between two or more of the High Contracting Parties, even if the state of war is not recognized by one of them.

The Convention shall also apply to all cases of partial or total occupation of the territory of a High Contracting Party, even if the said occupation meets with no armed resistance.

Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof.

KC · 03-23-2003, 04:29 PM

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Originally posted by stanton
Prety ironic and sad

Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...

Where in the Geneva Convention does it say a nation cannot start a war?

foreverjason · 03-23-2003, 04:29 PM

there is a party going on?

Trolleater · 03-23-2003, 04:30 PM

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Originally posted by stanton
Prety ironic and sad

Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...

so you want them to be tortured to death?

CDSmith · 03-23-2003, 04:31 PM

Don't know if this was posted yet, but this is how Saddam's crew treats POW's.....

http://airspot.mediaorgy.com/aljazeera/ --- it's gruesome, so click at own risk.

The US coalition forces have been pretty lenient on the Iraqi soldiers so far, giving them every chance to surrender before either killing them or capturing them by force. I've seen where a bunch of Iraqi soldiers, like 700 of them or so, gave up peacefully and where told to just "go home". Now, WHEN in any war previous to this have you heard of this happening?

The US has been pretty lenient so far. I suspect that's about to change if it hasn't already. Haven't been in front of the tv in a few hours.

mule · 03-23-2003, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Don't know if this was posted yet, but this is how Saddam's crew treats POW's.....

I think you have you POW and KIA mixed up

stanton · 03-23-2003, 04:37 PM

I agree with you...but I dont think that people of Bagdad for example will feel feel that they were treated linear, by getting bomb with 1000 rockets..and trust me when us forces gonna enter the city..it is gonna get very ugly

Dveron · 03-23-2003, 04:42 PM

One of those captured was a woman..it sickens me to think what she mght be going through now

KC · 03-23-2003, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by mule

I think you have you POW and KIA mixed up

If a Prisoner is executed after they have surrendered and become a POW, they have violated the Geneva Convention. Did you see the pictures of the guy's face along with the pic of the guy on the ground with a bullethole in his head?

mule · 03-23-2003, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by KC

If a Prisoner is executed after they have surrendered and become a POW, they have violated the Geneva Convention. Did you see the pictures of the guy's face along with the pic of the guy on the ground with a bullethole in his head?

Yes, I did
and?
I don't see anything in those pics to indicate that they were shot after surrendering, or am I missing something?

KRL · 03-23-2003, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Dveron
One of those captured was a woman..it sickens me to think what she mght be going through now

Oh get over it. Why do you think we didn't want women in combat zones in the past. But noooooo, they have to have equal rights like men. So be it. This is what happens.

She's gonna get gang raped by the towelheads and tortured.

Its fucking war and war is ugly.

Besides US soldiers raped and fucked vietnamese girls like crazy in Nam so we aren't angels either.

Fuck now I'm sounding like the anti-american fucks in here. geeez . . .

Gemini · 03-23-2003, 04:50 PM

Al Jazeera is available on most satellite programs.

Guantamano has to better than a cave, no lice, no landmines, no one hunting them currently, 3 hot meals of THEIR own type, they get to do their prayers, medical, dental, they have it better than alot of the World does, other than being in a cell. :

They wouldn't be IN that cell if they had the common sense that a sand flea has. Any one that thinks they have the right to kill just anyone they please for what amounts to a religious fervor should be locked up for good. We do it to our OWN folks too. Granted they have nothing to do with Iraq, but it still stands

Iraq BROKE the cease fire... live with it. If everyone is so all fired uppset, why weren't you complaining to YOUR governments to make that ceasefire STAND and go on to be a total war is over agreement????? `YOU are as guilty for NOT doing anything as the UN is. So this blood of thousands of innocents as some of you keep insisting on is on YOUR heads as well.

I don't see you crying about WW2 either, when bombing civilians was NORMAL for war. Oh yeah, that was when it was freeing many of the ones doing the crying.

BTW, I'm against war usually. Its just a necessary evil sometimes. I-We realllly hoped it wouldn't happen, but it did. No going back now and all the whining in the World won't change that.

KC · 03-23-2003, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by mule

Yes, I did
and?
I don't see anything in those pics to indicate that they were shot after surrendering, or am I missing something?

One of them that's pictured alive is also pictured with a bullet hole. Go back and look closely, it's the same guy.

KRL · 03-23-2003, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by mule

Yes, I did
and?
I don't see anything in those pics to indicate that they were shot after surrendering, or am I missing something?

Oh come on man. They all had bullit holes right in the head. They were fucking executed.

Saddam is paying $14,000 for dead ones and $28,000 for live ones. So they make bucks either way.

DJRCyberAVS · 03-23-2003, 04:54 PM

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I don't see anything in those pics to indicate that they were shot after surrendering, or am I missing something?

Think he's saying that a clean middle of the fore-head shot is hard to get when you're wearing a kevlar helmet, and in the heat of the battle.

Libertine · 03-23-2003, 04:54 PM

The Geneva convention is a very odd concept.
"Sure, go ahead and kill thousands, millions if necessary - just make sure you do it in a nice way."

mule · 03-23-2003, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

Oh come on man. They all had bullit holes right in the head. They were fucking executed.

Saddam is paying $14,000 for dead ones and $28,000 for live ones. So they make bucks either way.

LOL, I guess Saddam should tell all his troops NOT to aim for the head, in case people will think they were executed.
You're an idiot

eroswebmaster · 03-23-2003, 05:02 PM

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Originally posted by mule

LOL, I guess Saddam should tell all his troops NOT to aim for the head, in case people will think they were executed.
You're an idiot

Please tell me you don't really believe that the Iraqis were all able to score a headshot during a firefight with these guys...one almost right between the eyes another in the right temple.

mule · 03-23-2003, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

Please tell me you don't really believe that the Iraqis were all able to score a headshot during a firefight with these guys...one almost right between the eyes another in the right temple.

Why ever not?
I'm not saying that I either believe or disbelieve that they were executed, I wouldn't be surprised either way, but those pics prove absolutely nothing.

directfiesta · 03-23-2003, 05:05 PM

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Originally posted by KRL

Saddam is paying $14,000 for dead ones and $28,000 for live ones. So they make bucks either way.

Iraquis can count....:

1 alive = 2 deads

Better 2 alive!!!

playa · 03-23-2003, 05:06 PM

YES there are rules to fighting a War, believe it or not

in WAR there is a BIG difference between

KILLING
MURDER
Collateral Damage

I hope someone learns from this,

you don't think a US soldier could get the death penalty for shooting a POW without following the RULES OF ENGAGEMENT

Please do some research about what the heck the Geneva Convention is before starting posts. there is no Irony you talking apples and oranges

directfiesta · 03-23-2003, 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by Gemini

Iraq BROKE the cease fire... live with it.

Fuck ! They bombed their own city first!!! I knew it....

eroswebmaster · 03-23-2003, 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by mule

Why ever not?
I'm not saying that I either believe or disbelieve that they were executed, I wouldn't be surprised either way, but those pics prove absolutely nothing.

Because if you understood how inaccurate that even trained weapons users can be during fire fights then you'd realise this is statistically impossible.

mule · 03-23-2003, 05:09 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster

Because if you understood how inaccurate that even trained weapons users can be during fire fights then you'd realise this is statistically impossible.

I've been in a war

eroswebmaster · 03-23-2003, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by mule

I've been in a war

Okay whatever Sgt. York...just argue to be satisfying some self serving need.

ServerGenius · 03-23-2003, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by playa
YES there are rules to fighting a War, believe it or not

in WAR there is a BIG difference between

KILLING
MURDER
Collateral Damage

I hope someone learns from this,

you don't think a US soldier could get the death penalty for shooting a POW without following the RULES OF ENGAGEMENT

Please do some research about what the heck the Geneva Convention is before starting posts. there is no Irony you talking apples and oranges

No one really sticks to these rules though. They are more for after
the war to make up the balance and then they try to prosecute
war criminals. If everybody would stick to rules then there would
not be a reason to go to war.

b.t.w. The US went to war without consent of the UN. That is a
violation of a rule aswell.....so not much use pointing a finger.

DynaMite

03-23-2003, 03:24 PM	#1
stanton So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,640	The United States expects Iraq to treat captured U.S. and allied troops humanely..... Prety ironic and sad Bush was the one who went against Geneve Convention and started the war, and now he tells Sadam to treat the captured ons according to Geneve convention...

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NineNine So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 256	I think it's funny... the US bombs and slaughters thousands, but gets upset if somebody shows a fucking picture of a dead American on TV. For christ's sake, it's war. The media SHOULD be showign pictures of dead people so every gung-ho fucknut out there understands that there are real people dying for no good reason.

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xxxdesign-net My hips don't lie Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 10,129	conventions and rules for war?? haha You attack criminal dictators that kill their own people but expect them to follow conventions and rules for war??? Rumsfeld makes me laugh....

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stanton So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,640	I am not Anti-American I am just saying that Bush does actions which are very irrational and then he wants others to play by the rules...

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stanton So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,640	I agree with you...but I dont think that people of Bagdad for example will feel feel that they were treated linear, by getting bomb with 1000 rockets..and trust me when us forces gonna enter the city..it is gonna get very ugly

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playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	YES there are rules to fighting a War, believe it or not in WAR there is a BIG difference between KILLING MURDER Collateral Damage I hope someone learns from this, you don't think a US soldier could get the death penalty for shooting a POW without following the RULES OF ENGAGEMENT Please do some research about what the heck the Geneva Convention is before starting posts. there is no Irony you talking apples and oranges