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The Truth Hurts · 03-23-2003, 04:30 PM

Time to take off the fucking kid gloves.
Stop worrying about looking like a bad guy on camera.
This is a fucking war.
Treat it like one.

Juicy D. Links · 03-23-2003, 04:31 PM

The Truth Hurts · 03-23-2003, 04:32 PM

Which part didn't you understand?

Juicy D. Links · 03-23-2003, 04:33 PM

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Originally posted by The Truth Hurts
Which part didn't you understand?

Can you be a little clearer?

Gutterboy · 03-23-2003, 04:33 PM

The whole embedded thing exists so that the military can control what info goes out, dumbass. They would only have to worry if there were a bunch of independent journalists running around.

The Truth Hurts · 03-23-2003, 04:42 PM

Why is it that you people can't reply without resorting to namecalling?

Unless you're still in grade school, I just don't get it.

And, for those that missed my point, in case you've never noticed, people act and present themselves differently when they know they're on camera.

Dveron · 03-23-2003, 04:47 PM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
The whole embedded thing exists so that the military can control what info goes out, dumbass. They would only have to worry if there were a bunch of independent journalists running around.

Actually there are quite few independants including the ITN crew killed yesterday ans Sky News have at least 2 independant teams in S Iraq now doing live reports.

candyflip · 03-23-2003, 04:49 PM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
The whole embedded thing exists so that the military can control what info goes out, dumbass. They would only have to worry if there were a bunch of independent journalists running around.

This "embedded" term is funny. I love all the catchphrases we've seen lately.

Anyhow...they've been doing for a while now. In Vietnam for sure...probably sooner. Some of the big name faces we see sitting behind network news desks were the first "embedded" journalists.

Who's the guy who comes up with all the catchphrases? He's a fucking genius!

Gutterboy · 03-23-2003, 04:57 PM

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Originally posted by Dveron

Actually there are quite few independants including the ITN crew killed yesterday ans Sky News have at least 2 independant teams in S Iraq now doing live reports.

I know. The original poster was contending that "embedded" journalists are jeapordizing the militaries ability to do its job. Just saying that is ridiculous because the military controls these journalists satellite uplinks, movements, and access to information.

There were a whole shitload of articles before this started about how the pentagon was vetting these "embedded" journalists by their support of the war, political views and so forth.

playa · 03-23-2003, 06:33 PM

its up to journalist to say whatever he wants but of course he was told not give out any info that would benefit Iraq, cause i am sure thats how Iraq gathers their intelligence from the news station. lol

I heard several times when a journalist said
"I got in trouble last time i said blah blah blah"

it just proved to me that the military isn't censoring it before it airs

SpaceAce · 03-23-2003, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Gutterboy
The whole embedded thing exists so that the military can control what info goes out, dumbass. They would only have to worry if there were a bunch of independent journalists running around.

You're so funny. The fact that you can't formulate a thought without a personal attack on someone says a lot about the quality of your ideas.

This is a war in another country. They don't have to have ANY journalists there if they don't want them. There is no danger of independent journalists running around the battlefield. The fact that we hear anything at all is only because of the "embedded" journalists. If you really think the military is controlling what news we hear (beyond keeping sensitive data out of the reports) than you've way out in left field. The relationship is one of animosity because journalists won't do as they are told.

SpaceAce

Sly_RJ · 03-23-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by playa
it just proved to me that the military isn't censoring it before it airs

How do you censor LIVE feeds anyway? Isn't that one of the advantages of live feeds?

Sure, the military can yell at them and threaten to shut them down, but does that really keep down a reporter from reporting LIVE information? Reporters are sneaky, they'll do things even when they're told not to. Which in my mind, is a huge security risk.

03-23-2003, 04:30 PM	#1
The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,549	embedded cameramen = bad idea. Time to take off the fucking kid gloves. Stop worrying about looking like a bad guy on camera. This is a fucking war. Treat it like one.

03-23-2003, 04:31 PM	#2
Juicy D. Links So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: N.Y. -Long Island -- Posts: 122,992	huh?

03-23-2003, 04:32 PM	#3
The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,549	Which part didn't you understand?

03-23-2003, 04:33 PM	#5
Gutterboy So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Dis Posts: 4,751	The whole embedded thing exists so that the military can control what info goes out, dumbass. They would only have to worry if there were a bunch of independent journalists running around.

03-23-2003, 04:42 PM	#6
The Truth Hurts Zph7YXfjMhg Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: In Your Skull Posts: 15,549	Why is it that you people can't reply without resorting to namecalling? Unless you're still in grade school, I just don't get it. And, for those that missed my point, in case you've never noticed, people act and present themselves differently when they know they're on camera.

03-23-2003, 06:33 PM	#10
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	its up to journalist to say whatever he wants but of course he was told not give out any info that would benefit Iraq, cause i am sure thats how Iraq gathers their intelligence from the news station. lol I heard several times when a journalist said "I got in trouble last time i said blah blah blah" it just proved to me that the military isn't censoring it before it airs