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Old 03-09-2016, 02:13 PM   #1
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Tesla Model S Fined For Producing Too Much Emissions - Jalopnik

Tesla Model S Fined For Producing Too Much Emissions - Jalopnik

The fine comes from Singapore?s Land Transport Authority, or LTA, which gives fines or rebates depending on how much (or how little) pollution a car emits. According to the LTA?s calculations, the Tesla Model S produces the equivalent of 222g/km of CO2, which is enough to categorize it as a serious polluter.
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Old 03-09-2016, 02:22 PM   #2
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NO NO NO that can't be right!
It runs on free, emissions free electricity!
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Old 03-09-2016, 05:21 PM   #3
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NO NO NO that can't be right!
It runs on free, emissions free electricity!
You read that they are just fucking with Tesla right. You understood the situation?
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:12 PM   #4
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I think dvae is pointing out the irony, such as the following: Obama-backed green energy failures leave taxpayers with $2.2 billion tab, audit finds - Washington Times

its legitimacy is warranted. I know the money comes from thin air, but still...
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Thanks Tesla!
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Doesn't seem right somehow...

There's an interesting post under the article that says this:

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Once again, Jalopnik re-types a story without doing proper research.

If you actually read the story as posted by the owner, you will find the smog shop calculated the Tesla’s emissions by driving a predetermined circuit, letting it sit over night, measuring the next day, repeating the circuit, measuring the next day, so on for a few days.

This would be equivalent to leaving a gasoline car idle all night long, then averaging the total fuel consumption over the circuit only. Huge incompetence on the part of the government, huge incompetence on the part of the smog shop.
And it looks like Elon Musk is on the case : Tesla boss calls PM Lee over CO2 surcharge levied on first Model S in Singapore, Transport News & Top Stories - The Straits Times

will be cool to see how this pans out.
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I think dvae is pointing out the irony, such as the following: Obama-backed green energy failures leave taxpayers with $2.2 billion tab, audit finds - Washington Times

its legitimacy is warranted. I know the money comes from thin air, but still...
2.2 Billion is better spent on this, then the countless bullshit wars !
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the US spends 10 million per hour on war.
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I hope to see electricity produced from hydrolysis then burning the hydrogen and cycling back like perpetual motion. There would be no carbon in the chain. This cannot be done now on an economic scale (prototype scale?).

Hydroelectric and Geothermal can be done but that it too localized.

Burning hydrocarbons to produce electricity to power personal transportation won't work in the long run. We are just trading one kind of pollution for another. Hydrogen fuel cell technology engines have always seemed to me to be a better solution but driving around the ''Hindenburg'' is a safety issue -- they have to work that one out
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2.2 Billion is better spent on this, then the countless bullshit wars !

Cute rebuttal, but one has nothing to do with the other
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"the smog shop calculated the Tesla?s emissions by driving a predetermined circuit, letting it sit over night, measuring the next day, repeating the circuit, measuring the next day, so on for a few days.
This would be equivalent to leaving a gasoline car idle all night long, then averaging the total fuel consumption over the circuit only."

will be cool to see how this pans out.
Hey Mark it will be cool to see how it pans out.
As to the legitimacy of the test.

I know you own a Tesla, would you say that the test replicates how you use your car?
Drive from A-B round trip, park over night etc.
As a gas powered car uses no gas when parked for the night and a Tesla continues to consume power to me the test would seem to reflect how the car is used and is a true test of its power consumption and thus its emissions.

That is unless people are turning their Model S off and then disconnecting the battery packs over night.
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I know you own a Tesla,
No, he owns a Chevy Volt. He wants a Tesla (so do I...the sports car model that is)
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