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  • Lace
    Too lazy to set a custom title
    • Mar 2004
    • 16116

    #1

    Where the dabbers?

    How's the concentrate game going over there? Coming across that stuff here is usually upwards of $70/gram and your lucky if it's worth a fuck. Thinking about playing with rosin tech and seeing if I can get some decent yields...or taking a trip to Colorado come summer.


    Cannot wait till the east coast legalizes it.

    btw - lets see some rigs. those mothership pieces are nasty!
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  • dyna mo
    just a fucking jerk
    • Dec 2008
    • 68184

    #2
    I dab labtested only. Wax, not shatter. Just a basic all glass bubbler with a titanium nail. I have a butane blow torch that kills with this rig.

    I doubt concentrates will be legalized here in Cali. Are they legal in Colo?

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    • Lace
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Mar 2004
      • 16116

      #3
      Originally posted by dyna mo
      I dab labtested only. Wax, not shatter. Just a basic all glass bubbler with a titanium nail. I have a butane blow torch that kills with this rig.

      I doubt concentrates will be legalized here in Cali. Are they legal in Colo?
      As far as I know. I have a middle-eastern "tobacco outlet" glass bubbler and glass nail myself. Do you like the ti better than glass?
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      • escorpio
        I love to racism, bro!
        • Oct 2002
        • 23487

        #4
        4 grams for $100 in Seattle.
        Unvaxxed, still alive.

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        • Lace
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Mar 2004
          • 16116

          #5
          Originally posted by escorpio
          4 grams for $100 in Seattle.
          Wow.
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          • escorpio
            I love to racism, bro!
            • Oct 2002
            • 23487

            #6
            Originally posted by Lace
            Wow.
            $35 if you only buy one gram
            Unvaxxed, still alive.

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            • Far-L
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2002
              • 6065

              #7
              Dabs = weed crack

              Big rant coming...

              1. Testing almost means zero. We blind tested labs and got huge variance in results. Part of it is the sensitivity of the testing. Part is lab procedure. All of it is too uncertain to base health decisions on - especially considering product produced using any of the "tanes" butane, entane, etc. Parts per million of anything that carcinogenic is not something I would want in any part. Better make sure the testing includes a solvent screen. It won't be accurate, but at least it is something. Just having potency test is not enough and too many try to cut corners for paying for that only. Legal states are a bit better, but medical you better know the lab and how good their testing is and how well the staff is trained in lab procedure. The top rated lab I know for legal in WA I don't trust at all.

              2. The quest for purity comes at the expense of many of the healthful parts of the flower.

              3. The potency is the end of the road. Get a tolerance to something that powerful and there is nowhere else to go. All that is left is to basically turn into a dribbling speechless stoner. There are hard core dabbers I know that have the sweaty catatonia of opiate junkies.
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              • dyna mo
                just a fucking jerk
                • Dec 2008
                • 68184

                #8
                Originally posted by Far-L
                Dabs = weed crack

                Big rant coming...

                1. Testing almost means zero. We blind tested labs and got huge variance in results. Part of it is the sensitivity of the testing. Part is lab procedure. All of it is too uncertain to base health decisions on - especially considering product produced using any of the "tanes" butane, entane, etc. Parts per million of anything that carcinogenic is not something I would want in any part. Better make sure the testing includes a solvent screen. It won't be accurate, but at least it is something. Just having potency test is not enough and too many try to cut corners for paying for that only. Legal states are a bit better, but medical you better know the lab and how good their testing is and how well the staff is trained in lab procedure. The top rated lab I know for legal in WA I don't trust at all.

                2. The quest for purity comes at the expense of many of the healthful parts of the flower.

                3. The potency is the end of the road. Get a tolerance to something that powerful and there is nowhere else to go. All that is left is to basically turn into a dribbling speechless stoner. There are hard core dabbers I know that have the sweaty catatonia of opiate junkies.

                what are you saying? what about vaping concentrates?

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                • Far-L
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2002
                  • 6065

                  #9
                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                  what are you saying? what about vaping concentrates?
                  Saying stay away from bho style concentrates as a preferred product regardless of method of consumption. This means wax, shatter, oils, etc. I can smell the solvent literally in just about every one I put to my nostrils. People use those solvents for the higher yield... all about the dollar, not the health of the consumer/patient.

                  Co2 is the way to go for a clean extraction but it is less aggressive a solvent so the purity, without using any sort of winterization method that removes terps, will not be typically as potent. It can be made into a "goo" if it is kept in a vacuum to remove the h2o to create a dabbable product, but because if requires more to produce less it is therefore more expensive but at least you don't have to worry about residuals, (measured in parts per million, butane etc)
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                  • Deej
                    I make pixels work
                    • Jun 2005
                    • 24386

                    #10
                    You're smart so I trust your word. If BHO is properly purged... isn't most of the health risk avoided? Ar eyou just warning people of the potency tolerancE?

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                    • Far-L
                      Confirmed User
                      • Feb 2002
                      • 6065

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Deej
                      You're smart so I trust your word. If BHO is properly purged... isn't most of the health risk avoided? Ar eyou just warning people of the potency tolerancE?
                      No, the potency issue is more a matter of personal choice. Some patients might need that level of potency, but people that are just using it for recreational are another matter entirely. If they want to end up where they have to dab all day long just to catch a buzz then that is their problem. I just wouldn't want that for myself.

                      My biggest issue is that most labs use the cheaper, less sensitive, Mass Spectrometry and Gas Chromatography equipment to find residual solvents and traces of chemicals, which might include: Acetone, Butane, Propane, Pentane, Hexane, Heptane, Ethanol, Isopropanol (iso-alcohol), etc. So, those machines test to a certain level of sensitivity and approximate anything less than (x)parts per million.

                      When you are talking a product that is going to be completely consumed then that risk becomes an inevitable part of consumption. None of those "tanes" are things you want to inhale imho even if the State says a certain amount is acceptable. States ok'd things like spraying crops with ddt, diverting water in Michigan, etc so I don't have the greatest trust in the ability for gov. to address things like this.

                      The other difficulty is that even those producers that do purge properly can't remove everything. However, most, and I have sat in line at the testing facilities listening to producers discuss their purge, don't actually do enough purging because it adds time and money to the process. I have heard some brag about having a few hundred parts per million like "isn't that great". Freaks me out. I don't want the canna industry to end up where tobacco has in terms of health risks due to the manner of processing and preservation.
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                      • Grapesoda
                        So Fucking Banned
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 46238

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Far-L
                        Dabs = weed crack

                        Big rant coming...

                        1. Testing almost means zero. We blind tested labs and got huge variance in results. Part of it is the sensitivity of the testing. Part is lab procedure. All of it is too uncertain to base health decisions on - especially considering product produced using any of the "tanes" butane, entane, etc. Parts per million of anything that carcinogenic is not something I would want in any part. Better make sure the testing includes a solvent screen. It won't be accurate, but at least it is something. Just having potency test is not enough and too many try to cut corners for paying for that only. Legal states are a bit better, but medical you better know the lab and how good their testing is and how well the staff is trained in lab procedure. The top rated lab I know for legal in WA I don't trust at all.

                        2. The quest for purity comes at the expense of many of the healthful parts of the flower.

                        3. The potency is the end of the road. Get a tolerance to something that powerful and there is nowhere else to go. All that is left is to basically turn into a dribbling speechless stoner. There are hard core dabbers I know that have the sweaty catatonia of opiate junkies.
                        we squeeze the rosin out with hot plates

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                        • Deej
                          I make pixels work
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 24386

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Far-L
                          No, the potency issue is more a matter of personal choice. Some patients might need that level of potency, but people that are just using it for recreational are another matter entirely. If they want to end up where they have to dab all day long just to catch a buzz then that is their problem. I just wouldn't want that for myself.

                          My biggest issue is that most labs use the cheaper, less sensitive, Mass Spectrometry and Gas Chromatography equipment to find residual solvents and traces of chemicals, which might include: Acetone, Butane, Propane, Pentane, Hexane, Heptane, Ethanol, Isopropanol (iso-alcohol), etc. So, those machines test to a certain level of sensitivity and approximate anything less than (x)parts per million.

                          When you are talking a product that is going to be completely consumed then that risk becomes an inevitable part of consumption. None of those "tanes" are things you want to inhale imho even if the State says a certain amount is acceptable. States ok'd things like spraying crops with ddt, diverting water in Michigan, etc so I don't have the greatest trust in the ability for gov. to address things like this.

                          The other difficulty is that even those producers that do purge properly can't remove everything. However, most, and I have sat in line at the testing facilities listening to producers discuss their purge, don't actually do enough purging because it adds time and money to the process. I have heard some brag about having a few hundred parts per million like "isn't that great". Freaks me out. I don't want the canna industry to end up where tobacco has in terms of health risks due to the manner of processing and preservation.
                          well put... as always

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                          • Deej
                            I make pixels work
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 24386

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Grapesoda
                            we squeeze the rosin out with hot plates
                            well technically that's not dabs though. Live rosin.

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                            • Deej
                              I make pixels work
                              • Jun 2005
                              • 24386

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Deej
                              well technically that's not dabs though. Live rosin.
                              I don't know, personally I don;t get that concept... but some guy argued it to me at a THC fair soooo... whatever. I think dab just has to do with method of smoking right... not method of extraction...

                              So... whatever. I recant... some weirdo said that shit to me once though.

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