Would you fire an employee who is late to work on the first day?

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  • marcop
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2005
    • 4150
    #31
    Here in LA the traffic is so bad and unpredictable that firing someone for being 15 minutes late on their first day would be very harsh.

    That reminds me: 20+ years ago, I was over an hour late on my first day to a programming gig--but I didn't get fired, perhaps because I had a whole slew of mitigating circumstances such as: I'd only moved to LA the day before, it was an almost 50 mile commute, I hadn't figured out the best way to go and had taken a route that was more heavily trafficked than the best route, and lastly--and don't laugh--it was raining.

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      • Dead
        They left the door open
        • Apr 2003
        • 4755
        #32
        Short answer ,.No I would not.
        Have had my best guy lay out for days, and yet never fired him?
        Sometimes they know the work load better then the employer, and in the end he did me a favor of not keeping him on the clock when things are slow.Very smart employee.

        Like Matyko, I too run a very flexible shift, but have never been let down when things need to happen.

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          • mce
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            • Jun 2012
            • 3915
            #33
            It all boils down to respect, principles, and professionalism


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              • incredibleworkethic
                Confirmed User
                • Sep 2009
                • 2302
                #34
                I would give one chance early on. If he/she was a reliable employee and it happened after a good established work history, all is good.

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                  • J. Falcon
                    www.AdultCopywriters.com
                    • May 2006
                    • 31645
                    #35
                    Originally posted by TheSquealer
                    Never mind, did a search to confirm its you.

                    I was just asking because in 2008, i had 10's of 1000s of Dollars in writing work to be done and hit up you and about 4/5 other people offering similar services to see who could actually deliver before i started making any bigger commitments.

                    Of all of them, I recall that you were among the worst at promising something on a day and then not delivering anything but excuses and delays.

                    Ironically, i ended up hiring a guy who had just quit working for you.... not going to say his name (initials, K.S.), but he is Australian and living there, so obviously can figure it out.

                    He worked for us for quite a few years full time after that and always did a fantastic job and followed any instructions to the letter. Later, he ended up recruiting more writers and managing them for us and again, he really excelled and did a great job.

                    My suggestion to you, fire every employee you have. They'll all be better off for it.
                    Great story dude. I'm talking about a completely different business. I have 30 employees now, and it's not writing and not adult.
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                      • J. Falcon
                        www.AdultCopywriters.com
                        • May 2006
                        • 31645
                        #36
                        Oh well, GFY just wouldn't be GFY without the cocksucking trolls like The Squeeler high jacking threads, most of the time with abusrd shit they cannot even prove.

                        But back to the question, maybe that worker who is late on his first day turns out to be great, but I think 4 times out of 5 you will regret it. First day of work (first interview, meeting or whatever) any responsible person should make it a point to be extra early, so that it is nearly impossible to be late no matter what.
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                          • J. Falcon
                            www.AdultCopywriters.com
                            • May 2006
                            • 31645
                            #37
                            Originally posted by Dead
                            Short answer ,.No I would not.
                            Have had my best guy lay out for days, and yet never fired him?
                            Sometimes they know the work load better then the employer, and in the end he did me a favor of not keeping him on the clock when things are slow.Very smart employee.

                            Like Matyko, I too run a very flexible shift, but have never been let down when things need to happen.
                            Right, but I'm talking about being late the very first day on the job. I think it's something completely different.
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                              • TheSquealer
                                Mayor of Thneedville
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 26172
                                #38
                                Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                Oh well, GFY just wouldn't be GFY without the cocksucking trolls like The Squeeler high jacking threads, most of the time with abusrd shit they cannot even prove.
                                Can't prove? I told you who it was dickhead. You can pretend all day long that you don't know who and what i'm talking about but that won't change history or the facts.

                                and yeah, ... of course, who could possibly doubt that someone with your fantastic business acumen, unrivaled management skills and past track record of stunning success, writing for pennies wouldn't be growing and growing, year after year and have 30 employees.... but not know what to do if someone is late on the first day.... then being forced to ask a cesspool of unemployable retards for management advice.

                                Sounds legit.

                                My bad.
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                                  • Grapesoda
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Jul 2003
                                    • 46238
                                    #39
                                    Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                    So you hire 6 new workers and tell them they're expected to come in early.

                                    First day of work and one of them shows up 15 minutes late.

                                    Let's assume he has an excuse: car broke down, stuck in traffic, kid got sick, broken pipe in his bathroom, etc.

                                    Would you let it slide or fire him on the spot as an example to the rest/ rule of principal?
                                    human resources dept figures that out

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                                      • J. Falcon
                                        www.AdultCopywriters.com
                                        • May 2006
                                        • 31645
                                        #40
                                        Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                        ...then being forced to ask a cesspool of unemployable retards for management advice.

                                        Sounds legit.

                                        My bad.
                                        You're right, your opinion doesn't matter, now go back to trolling.
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                                          • AMDWarrior
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2006
                                            • 1488
                                            #41
                                            Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                            Great story dude. I'm talking about a completely different business. I have 30 employees now, and it's not writing and not adult.
                                            LOL


                                            No,no you dont

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                                              • chaze
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Aug 2002
                                                • 9774
                                                #42
                                                Originally posted by J. Falcon
                                                So you hire 6 new workers and tell them they're expected to come in early.

                                                First day of work and one of them shows up 15 minutes late.

                                                Let's assume he has an excuse: car broke down, stuck in traffic, kid got sick, broken pipe in his bathroom, etc.

                                                Would you let it slide or fire him on the spot as an example to the rest/ rule of principal?
                                                Yeah if the excuse was legit, of course. Shit happens.
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                                                  • SBJ
                                                    So Fucking Fabulous
                                                    • Apr 2003
                                                    • 11387
                                                    #43
                                                    Originally posted by BigFurry
                                                    Fire him? No way. Unless you're running a sweatshop...

                                                    Every single person has good and bad qualities. What if he turns out to be the world's best employee, who's 15 mins late two times a week?

                                                    Would you replace them with someone who's always punctual, but does shit work?
                                                    This..

                                                    I held a factory job for 11 yrs and I remember in the first year or two I was working 3rd shift and we had a ice storm that night.. I went out to start my car early and all my doors were frozen shut on my 83 honda. I pulled so hard on my door that the plastic door handle snapped in half.. I ended up getting the hatchback open with the help of hot water, but I was late for work. I took the broken handle into the office and they all laughed at it..

                                                    Sometimes shit just happens..

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                                                      • L-Pink
                                                        working on my tan
                                                        • Mar 2005
                                                        • 39151
                                                        #44
                                                        Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                        .... then being forced to ask a cesspool of unemployable retards for management advice.

                                                        .
                                                        Lol lol lol Hilarious.

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                                                          • TheSquealer
                                                            Mayor of Thneedville
                                                            • Oct 2004
                                                            • 26172
                                                            #45
                                                            Originally posted by AMDWarrior
                                                            LOL


                                                            No,no you dont
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