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Judging by the last three elections and the candidates put forward. The Republicans want to lose the race for President.

No one can defend putting forward and old man and a batshit crazy-stupid women, then a religious nut and now these three.

The party has to have better people in its ranks.

Agreed, agreed and disagree.

John Kasich is a worthwhile candidate, but Republican voters favor the three stooges.

Wrong? Umm Bush started 2 wars and left both in a neverending state and crashed our econemy. Not to mention started the ball running on turning g this country into a police state. Obama of course kept that ball rolling as well.. (one thing all politicians have in common is you give them power they want more)

Not to mention the Republican congress has done absolutely nothing since they were elected..as predicted.

What did we get wrong?

Perhaps underestimated how far to the extreme the right has gone?

He's about the only sensible sounding guy on their stage but isn't he a relgious nutter?

Aside from him I wish Rand Paul would of done better. He's a little loopy but he does seem to give a shit about the country and our rights.

Crockett,

Unlike you and the crocketeers, I see a lot of wrong in both parties.. It's a gift people like Robbie and I possess which helps us see the world a bit more clearly... and see issues from both sides

My world view does not insist that anyone who doesn't see things exactly like I do, must be stupid and brainwashed. I leave that narrow mindedness, prejudiced, bigoted views and shortsightedness to you and your merry band of Mensa members

usa so fucked lol

Here are the reasons why the favored Republican candidate is a Carnival Freak.

1) Trump isn't a career politician and everyone is fed up with career politicians.

2) There's a lot of people in the U.S. that don't research the candidates for themselves and don't know anything about politics.

3) Many of them have brains fogged up by Prozac and other mind altering substances.

Its amazing you don't even read my reply before you start talking BS. You and Robbie are about as head in the sand as anyone else.

Oh and my reply above I clearly criticized both Bush and Obama. Yet with you don't even blink an eye before you go head first into your rant about me only seeing bad of one side...

I agree with your first point. But your second and third ones are a lot of conjecture.

I actually think that MORE people are informed these days. And that's why the Republican Establishment can't get away with the same old tricks they have always used to hand pick their nominee.

People aren't buying what the establishment is selling.
To try and say that it's all because people are "stupid" is an error.

I'm not stupid, and I think Trump is far and away the best thing going in the Republican Party right now.
I'm not gonna vote Republican (or Democrat)...but I do believe he could get our economy going strong again. And I do believe that he will get the best people available to handle the various cabinet posts.

As for all the social issue stuff...he is way too far right for my tastes. But then again so is Hillary. And I'm not going to vote for the "lesser of 2 evils" b.s. that the majority of people are going to do.

You understand the difference between a test on a deserted island and dropping nukes on American cities, right?

And I disagree on this.

We attacked Iraq and kicked them out of Kuwait. We signed a peace treaty... which was then violated every day for over a decade. When I say "violated" I mean Iraq was shooting at US warplanes on a daily basis - an act of war - and the United States was bombing back. A de facto state of war existed between the United States and Iraq while Clinton was still in office, before Bush took over.

The Bush administration had to sell it to the American public, and they had been bickering over the issue of WMDs and that was an easy sell. But the truth is a shooting war existed with Iraq before President Bush took office.

Btw. just to the WW II discussion. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were not the most devastating bomb attack on the Japanese soil during the WW II.

That happened when several months earlier Kyoto was bombed with firebombs creating a circle of fire that burned down the whole center of the city, built almost exclusively from wood. With no means of escape.

This cost more than 100 000 casualties that night and is most likely, by today, the most devastating bomb attack of all time.

Even after the nukes were used, several high commanding Japanese officers orchestrated an attempted coup trying to continue the war. All of those committed suicide after.

As terrible as it was, without using the nuclear power a ground invasion would likely be necessary. A paradox is that this horrible act most likely, at the end of the day, actually saved more Japanese lives than it cost.

Just for illustration the ratio between US and Japanese casualties during the Pacific war stood at 1:14.

Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of people.

Don't most Republicans seem angry, scared and a bit dousche-y? Of course, Democrats act like gutless pussy intellectuals so fuck them too. LOL

the whole thing is an anomaly of 1 man, & its happening solely because he is a billionaire & celebrity. there are no down-ballot candidates for any of trumps plans/positions. if he is shot, its back to business as usual inside of 5 minutes.

none of the political people know how to deal with a guy that so flagrantly violates every law of politics & gets away with it. i never seen the media just fully abandon any hint of non-partisanship, never seen politicans openly eat their own, over this guy, who attracts the biggest republican crowds since ronald.

Trump is a genius. One of the old guard from the 40s, the bluntness. the hipsters are gonna lose their minds & i will laugh & laugh & laugh at their expense.

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Kasich wants to cut Social Security, hence he's unelectable. Were it not for that, he'd be ahead of the jug eared cabana boy but still trailing Trump and probably Cruz.

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Hiroshima and Nagasaki were/are important sea ports. They were both important military targets.

Truman wrestled with the decision to bomb these two cities. It was estimated that had we invaded Japan, over 100,000 U.S. troops would have died. Even after the bombs were dropped, many Japanese military men refused to believe that one bomb could cause that much destruction.

If you ever saw footage or even the mini-series The Pacific, the Japanese soldiers fought tooth and nail on tiny islands. On their homeland would have fought even harder.

Hopefully another A Bomb is never used.

Angry is an under statement. They are pissed. They lost to a black man with no track record who most Americans never heard of until he ran for President. Now they are about to loose to a woman.

Informed and misinformed go hand in hand; and there's more misinformation nowadays than ever before.

I'm not saying you or everyone who approves of Trump is misinformed, but he certainly appeals to an audience that believes anything posted by bloggers or forwarded in emails.

The buildings don't have mannequins in them?

How many American soldiers and civilians did the Japanese kill or imprison in the Aluetians during their occupation?

How big were the American cities there during their invasion and what others were within a 25 mile radius?

I don't think that trying to profile the supporters of candidates means much.

If we did that then we could say that Clinton appeals to an audience of uneducated people on welfare.
Doesn't mean anything.

The only thing that is important in my mind is what these candidates stand for.

Trump wants to build a wall. And he's not the first one to say that. Congress has tossed that idea around for the last few years.

I find that idea to be un-American. I thought we condemned the Soviet Union for doing the same thing in Berlin and that we all celebrated when the wall came down. And now we want to build one too???
I've said it a few times, the only "problem" we have with Mexico is caused by our Federal Govt. and it's prohibition on recreational drugs. Same thing happened with alcohol prohibition: violence, gang activity, and people getting filthy rich off of it.

Also...Trump is wanting to put even MORE money into the military. WTF? It's already bigger than the next 10 countries combined.

The only things I like about Trump are his economic ideas and his trade ideas. I think he's the master of those two things.

Now Hillary...I honestly don't know what the fuck she would do. She lies every other word out of her mouth. So I don't trust her at all with anything.

Anyway, that's just my opinion. I don't think that people picking certain segments of candidates supporters and trying to brand the candidate that way has anything to do with anything.
Just my opinion.

I think Trump stands for himself. His money buys him the opportunity to get mentioned in history books. Even if he loses, a big enough spectacle will ensure his name gets in print.

I think he already had his name in the history books because of the buildings he has built around the world.

Even before his t.v. show I would hear his name come up in casual conversation. Like if somebody were buying drinks for everyone at the bar you'd hear someone say: "What, do you think you're rich like Donald Trump?"

So he was kind of already famous and part of our culture. I can remember when I was a teenager in the 1970's if people were busting your balls about spending money they'd call you "J. Paul Getty" or "Rockefeller". By the 1980's that had changed to "Trump".

I sort of take him at his word. He said in the very beginning of his campaign that he is the only candidate with something to lose.
The rest of them are all politicians. If Cruz doesn't win...he just keeps on going as the Senator from Texas for instance.
But Trump is not only spending his money...but he's devoting all of his time to his campaign instead of running his companies.

I think he honestly believes he can "make America great again". Now whether you or I think he can is another story...but I believe that HE believes it.

And that's the way you have to think to be successful at anything.

I think more allied forces were killed by friendly fire than in any battle with the Japanese in Alaska or surrounding islands and in a battle that didn't even need to be "fought", since the Japanese had already left when the offensive to take back the territory was launched.

Cruz and Rubio are getting a similar number of votes, Romney got last time. Trump is getting brand new votes. And still wiping the floor with them.

1) Agree. But it needs more qualifications to run a country.
2) Clearly true. His sound bites don't work, his plans don't work. He's playing to a crowd who doesn't research.

He may be the best. Doesn't mean he's qualified.

His bombing families will fail. His tax plans will fail, his defence plans will fail. Can he force Mexico to pay for the Wall and can he get China to accept tariffs and not demand the US repays it's debt without China lending more money?

However imposing more taxes on imports is something I support. Along with strict rules on migration.

As for his ban on Muslims, that now has changed to people from terrorist countries. Does that include the oil billionaires? Racking up the Visa policies would be far better, but less of a soundbite.

Then the US should have removed the ability to fire missiles. With smart bombs and missiles. Invasion was a huge mistake.

The problem is the PC approach of our Governments. we have to accept that these countries get the leaders they deserve and the ones who can keep the lid on the rebels. Can't think of one example where a despot has been removed and a moderate leader has kept a grip on a ME country.

Incorrect. Dropping those bombs saved more lives on both sides. The Japanese were training children and women to fight if the U.S. tried to take the mainland. It would have been a blood bath on both sides. Obviously the American lives were more valued, however it was a net positive on both sides.

Trump wants to bomb families of an organization that so far has been responsible for 14 U.S. deaths. The math doesn't work. Lastly threatening death to people who believe it makes them martyrs is a tough sell. The Japanese in some regards where the same way, however the bombs would have removed them from the earth without the honor of them facing their enemy so they lost face and surrendered. I know you said you don't agree, but you also pseudo defend it. You can't kill your way to peace with terrorists. Every family you kill will live a few extremely damaged and highly motivated individuals. It is like fucking your way to virginity.

Hitler lost the Battle of Britain because he switched from bombing military targets to civilian. And probably lost WW2 because of that. Bomber Harris lengthened the war by bombing civilian targets instead of military.

Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings were a demonstration of the weapon the US had in their arsenal. They could have bombed Tokyo, an industrial complex. They didn't. They illustrated to the Japanese that resistance was futile, there was no need for America to lose more lives or spend on more arms. They had the ultimate weapon to win a war.

Japan hesitated after the bomb on Hiroshima. Nagasaki showed the US was able and willing to do it again, and again until Japan was flat. No one knew about the radiation situation then, to the degree we know it now.

I wouldn't go as far as saying the Destruction of the party, but this unseen before situation is going to set them back a few elections. They have lost control and credibility. :2 cents:

I was referring more to textbook history, where the names of people who became wealthy from actually having contributed something substantial to society live on and are imprinted upon the young minds of generations to come.

Or Presidents, whether they were good or bad for the nation.

True, the name Trump permeates our culture NOW..... but in the same way as Bieber and Kardashian, not Bell or Edison.

so you nuked some completely unrelated fishermen :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

oh and may I remind you that you are an american speaking about genocide? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


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oh, wait ....... it was me.

An egotist/billionaire never says "I have enough fame/money, so will stop getting more."

Trump is both. Well, the jury is out on how much money he's really worth. :1orglaugh

Donald Trump is not a a real Republican he should run as an independent candidate for president.
Bernie Sanders is a Senator elected as an Independent he should run as an independent candidate for president.

The vote would be split 4 ways and thrown into the Electoral College. The framers anticipated this situation in the US Constitution and allowed for this selection process to be done in an orderly and constitutional way.

Off subject: I am sure that my 3 uncles, father and stepfather who were all in the US Army, my 2 uncles serving under Macarthur, had no problem with the war ending early after Truman dropped the A-bombs. That said, it was a war crime to knowingly kill so many civilians but so was the Rape of Nanking by the Imperial Japanese Army. 1945 was another world from the world we live in today with regard to what is a war crime.

I once said ( in October 2015 ) that we should have used tactical nuclear weapons on the Islamic Terrorist State's capital city of Ar-Raqqah; it would have imploded the Islamic Terrorist State and its command and control ability. Up to 50K civilians would die but 2 million civilians in Ramadi and Mosul would regain control of their freedoms. That is a 2.5% collateral damage loss of non combatant life. If you are part of the 97.5% freed you would morn the loss of civilian life but acknowledge the 200K+ dead and 6 million persons displaced, Assad and the other rebel forces should get their credit due also.

However, I never advocated targeting civilians intentionally, Trump did, and did so in vindictiveness -- that would be a war crime.

Hail Trump



Trumps supporters are not affirming an oath as Trump is doing they saluting Trump -- that is really fucked up

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It doesn't matter. The United States would never nuke an American city with a civilian population, no less a military population.

That's the dumbest thing I've heard of in a long time.

why not drop a tactical nuke on washington then? it would have imploded the #1 terrorists on the planet, only 2.5% of your population would die, but the 97,5% of you would live in "freedoms"?

why go after lesser terrorists?

on a side note, FUCK am I glad that other countries have nukes, american klingons simply do not see anything wrong with nuking other countries...I hope all countries have nukes and nasty ass bacteria soon to protect themselves from americans, or at least bring the klingons down with them if the klingons decide to attack...

thank god for the russians and chineese as well...

Hitler lost the battle of Britain due to RAF strength and Luftwaffe weakness, not because of some change in bombing targets.

And no Tokyo wasn't a potential target for the bomb, it had already been destroyed in previous bombings.

Sure it's sounds dumber than a box o rocks when you try to frame it as though there was a huge thriving Metropolis in the Aluetian Islands back during WWII.

What if IF IF the Japanese were stricken with the Walking Dead virus?

What then?

If they appeared on the California coastline and invaded Los Angeles, you would have little choice but to take each one out with a bullet to the noggin.

But you have more flexibility when it comes to the Aluetians. The Nukelear Option allows you to eradicate all zombies Japanese or American in the region and prevents infection traveling further through Alaska and Canada.

Are you going to sit there and tell us that you would risk Kamizombies walking willy nilly amok down from Canada into the United States and eat everyone's brains and turn us all into zombies?

You would ..... wouldn't you.

Damn you, Rochard.

Damn you to Hell.