21sexturecash => gammae

**Penny24Seven** · 03-08-2016, 09:26 AM

50 problems and a bitch aint one

**Roald** · 03-08-2016, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by miguel7

Look at my StatsRemote stats:

Before switch:

After switch:

PS: on 2016-3-3 I changed all old NATS links to new.

Playing devils advocate here but could it be Gamma is counting traffic different? For example only counting join page hits, or....

**miguel7** · 03-08-2016, 11:02 AM

Originally posted by Roald

Playing devils advocate here but could it be Gamma is counting traffic different? For example only counting join page hits, or....

I have another old famedollars account where I'm promoting some their niche sites too and this account has much more traffic.

I don't make too much $ with them (21sextury) so I don't care too much. The problem is I have more than 3000+ galleries with their content, so I can't easily delete them. I will wait 1 - 2 months and then I will compare income which is only important.

**Matyko** · 03-08-2016, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Roald

Playing devils advocate here but could it be Gamma is counting traffic different? For example only counting join page hits, or....

Originally posted by miguel7

I have another old famedollars account where I'm promoting some their niche sites too and this account has much more traffic.

I don't make too much $ with them (21sextury) so I don't care too much. The problem is I have more than 3000+ galleries with their content, so I can't easily delete them. I will wait 1 - 2 months and then I will compare income which is only important.

It is wise to wait a bit indeed. The bottom line is that building an empire on FHGs is not the most clever thing to do. If you build your own galleries, than replacing the linking codes is not a major pain in the ass.

Gamma is not ruining the 21SexturyCash empire, they are taking it over and as this consists of multiple networks including dozens of paysites there is no way to make the transition flawless.

Frankly, I always loved the content of 21SexturyCash but conversions were never as good as I expected it (good business ideas built to boost reputation/rebills, nice up-to-date tours, etc) and actually I am hoping for better conversions after the system is finetuned.

It will take time though.. Having not-relevant content on some tours is not good of course, but if anyone believes that they plan to keep it like this: the theory is ridiculous.

Wish them good luck and cross fingers for a positive outcome, whining and badmouthing FameDollars/Gamma makes 0 sense. (imo)

**robwod** · 03-08-2016, 02:41 PM

Originally posted by Matyko

...there is no way to make the transition flawless.

Actually, I would disagree with this. Testing migration/integration within a controlled development environment, including the affiliate program, affiliate program tools, paysites, etc, should always be done beforehand. And if they were, then its clear the testing was not thorough enough.

You probably recall that the same thing happened with Blazing Bucks where things just never worked, out of the box, once Gamma took it over. Banners, fhg's, etc. Mark, to his credit, got on them right away to get the banners working again once he was made aware. Certainly it all got resolved, but it was pretty clear things were not thoroughly tested with that migration either.

My point is, this sort of thing should be avoidable, but seems to happen more often than not in adult when affiliate programs change hands/platforms.

Having said that, it is/was no doubt a huge undertaking to take over 21sexturycash, the paysites, affiliate program, the tools, the memberships, the billing, etc. There's a lot of moving pieces, and in such a complex migration, sometimes mistakes just happen. I certainly understand that. But it is still pretty clear that things were not tested thoroughly before going live. I think we can all agree on that, and probably even Gamma themselves.

Originally posted by Matyko

Wish them good luck and cross fingers for a positive outcome, whining and badmouthing FameDollars/Gamma makes 0 sense. (imo)

Agreed, I wish them the best to getting a handle on things and getting it all fixed.

**rendis** · 03-09-2016, 10:10 AM

My stats are still not counted. It's been a week and I'm still waiting for a response from Derrick.

Did you receive last 21SC payment? The payment with store date 2016-02-16 that should be sent on March 1st?

**Kafka** · 03-10-2016, 05:33 AM

There is a problem with the outgoing links.
Adblocker blocks these links. I dont know excactly why.
It sees this as a kind of popup i think.

for example, this link can't be opened in another page (target="_blank").

The hottest stars and the most hardcore scenes, get access to over 50 sites with one membership

If a visitor clicks on the link and has adblocker installed, nothing happens.
Many have adblocker installed so the click counter will not be parsed.

**robwod** · 03-10-2016, 07:37 AM

Originally posted by Kafka

for example, this link can't be opened in another page (target="_blank").

Code:

http://www.linkfame.com/21sextreme/go.php?pr=8&su=2&si=208[B][COLOR="lime"]&ad[/COLOR][/B]=13713&cs=lustygrandmas&ar=&buffer=

If a visitor clicks on the link and has adblocker installed, nothing happens.
Many have adblocker installed so the click counter will not be parsed.

It's possible that the reason why is because the link has "ad" in the url, which is a default block string on even the most basic adblockers.

ETA: i just looked up "Easy List" which is one of the lists AdBlock Plus uses... and linkfame is listed there as a default block.

**Kafka** · 03-10-2016, 08:00 AM

It's not "ad" but the string "linkfame".

**derrick1** · 03-11-2016, 05:40 AM

hey guys, we are going to be a lot more proactive than we were before in creating new tools, landing pages and tools that you guys want and need. Shortly, after the dust settles, I'll be able to reach out to you guys more and work closer with you to drive up your sales.

Miguel, feel free to send me an e-mail with your stats and account, I'll take a look and see what we can do. Can't stress enough that we're going to make 21Sextury bigger and better for everyone concerned

**rendis** · 03-11-2016, 06:41 AM

Originally posted by derrick1

hey guys, we are going to be a lot more proactive than we were before in creating new tools, landing pages and tools that you guys want and need. Shortly, after the dust settles, I'll be able to reach out to you guys more and work closer with you to drive up your sales.

Miguel, feel free to send me an e-mail with your stats and account, I'll take a look and see what we can do. Can't stress enough that we're going to make 21Sextury bigger and better for everyone concerned

Could you answer my email? It's been a week. You did not help me yet. My traffic from old 21SC links is still not counted. I still have 0 clicks, 0 rebills, 0 signups. And I didn't receive the last 21SC payment yet (more than $800).

I think that you should fix all the problem first, then make 21Sextury bigger and better.

**RandyD** · 03-12-2016, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by derrick1

hey guys, we are going to be a lot more proactive

This wouldn't be difficult

E.g We still await the last 21sextury payments.

**Flaer** · 03-12-2016, 10:17 AM

Still not works...

**Sharon1974** · 03-13-2016, 11:06 PM

dramatic drop in sales..

**rendis** · 03-14-2016, 01:23 AM

Can you see rebills from your 21 active members in your new stats? I still have 0 rebills. I had a lot of active members in 21SC. I hope all rebills are being tracked.

It converts bad because of new free tours. I hope they will change them soon.

**Sharon1974** · 03-14-2016, 02:49 AM

Originally posted by rendis

Can you see rebills from your 21 active members in your new stats? I still have 0 rebills. I had a lot of active members in 21SC. I hope all rebills are being tracked.

It converts bad because of new free tours. I hope they will change them soon.

No rebills... what a mess!

**RandyD** · 03-14-2016, 05:10 AM

Originally posted by Sharon1974

No rebills... what a mess!

Rebills?

These fucking jokers aren't even counting the clicks.

**rendis** · 03-14-2016, 05:29 AM

Originally posted by RandyD

Rebills?

These fucking jokers aren't even counting the clicks.

I had the same problem. Then I found out, that they created a second account for me. With the same username, but different password!

But I have the same problem as Miguel7. I used to have about 1200 clicks daily and now I have about 200. And no signups and rebills.

**Sharon1974** · 03-16-2016, 01:07 AM

..and still no payment or rebills...

**rendis** · 03-16-2016, 07:23 AM

Originally posted by Sharon1974

..and still no payment or rebills...

I talked to Derrick and he said:

"Payments for 21st will be settled in March, let me know by April 9th if you still haven't
received anything"

I asked him about the rebills, but he still did not answer me.

**miguel7** · 03-17-2016, 02:13 PM

Updated facts:
Now I see they merged my old famedollars account with new 21sextury cash account.
But I didn't noticed it because the new account (the same user / pass as on 21sexturycash) is still alive and it shows some different stats too (the screenshots I made above are from this new account).

But on the old one I see an extra (300+ uniques daily) more after 21sextury switch, so now it seems more ok. There is still about 50% less of traffic alltogether but now is it much better. And 2 SU !!!

**Sharon1974** · 03-17-2016, 11:46 PM

Originally posted by miguel7

Updated facts:
Now I see they merged my old famedollars account with new 21sextury cash account.
But I didn't noticed it because the new account (the same user / pass as on 21sexturycash) is still alive and it shows some different stats too (the screenshots I made above are from this new account).

But on the old one I see an extra (300+ uniques daily) more after 21sextury switch, so now it seems more ok. There is still about 50% less of traffic alltogether but now is it much better. And 2 SU !!!

But what about sales and rebills?

**miguel7** · 03-19-2016, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by Sharon1974

But what about sales and rebills?

2 sales on 21sextury and 0 rebills yet.

And because on old famedollars account I have payment by check, they sent me check instead of paxum payment I had on 21sextury cash.

**EvgenUA** · 03-19-2016, 10:18 PM

as i see they have added rebills few days ago

wondering where's my rebills for the rest of the month?

and still, WAY less traffic and signups than i used to have at 21sextury
guess that's mostly because of the terrible mess with the links.

lets see:
Nude Fight Club - Hot Girls Love To Fight And Fuck
we see a "nude fight club" logo.
we hit "enter".
and then what?
i see NO "fights" anywhere

or even worse:
The hottest stars and the most hardcore scenes, get access to over 50 sites with one membership
what do we see there?

and i still haven't received my last check.
shame a didn't take any screenshots of my stats/payhistory

**Sharon1974** · 03-20-2016, 12:31 AM

Originally posted by EvgenUA

wondering where's my rebills for the rest of the month?

Yes, where are all the 21st rebills ?

**rendis** · 03-20-2016, 03:05 AM

Originally posted by Sharon1974

Yes, where are all the 21st rebills ?

I asked Derrick and he told me that rebills should appear by the end of the month. I hope it is true.

I also have less traffic and signups than I used to have at 21SC. New free tours are terrible. I am not surprised that it does not convert.

21SC used to be my #1 sponsor since 2007 - 2014, but not anymore. It is almost a month since they canceled old 21SC stats and links, and it still does not work. Free tours are terrible, traffic is much lower...

**rendis** · 03-21-2016, 04:41 AM

I just received last 21SC payment (Paxum). At least one good news.

**Sharon1974** · 03-21-2016, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by rendis

I just received last 21SC payment (Paxum). At least one good news.

Also recieved the last 21 payment

One problem solved... 2 to go!

**EvgenUA** · 03-21-2016, 11:11 AM

another update.

mar-8 with a bunch of renevals.

but i'm worrying about "deductions"

looks like the members noticed something bad in the member section and cancelling their subscriptions

**rendis** · 04-08-2016, 05:00 AM

I still don't have 21SC rebills in my stats. Do you have 21 sextury rebills in your new stats?
I'm just curious if anyone has the same problem.

**KitA** · 04-11-2016, 08:40 PM

still no payment for remaining balance on both 21sexturycash accounts...some links from old NATS redirect to another account,wich is not mine...and rebills from NATS not added

**derrick1** · 04-12-2016, 05:54 AM

hey guys, most old 21Sextury payments should be settled, so please hit me up if you haven't received it. I'm in touch with many of you already

**brassmonkey** · 04-12-2016, 06:04 AM

yeah i just added them yesterday.

**Gallery-Traffic** · 04-12-2016, 07:15 AM

Hey Derrikc, what happened with the hosted videos? will no longer be available?

**RR Productions** · 04-12-2016, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by Sharon1974

Also recieved the last 21 payment

One problem solved... 2 to go!

I do not.
I have some pending amount from the old program since many months ago.

Very disappointed.

**cybermike** · 04-12-2016, 03:38 PM

Yeah all the hosted mp4 files on my 21naturals blog are dead.. what gives?

**Matyko** · 04-12-2016, 09:47 PM

Originally posted by Gallery-Traffic

Hey Derrikc, what happened with the hosted videos? will no longer be available?

If you mean the 10min hosted videos: I can tell you they will remain down as FameDollars have different content policy and allow only 6:15 runtime clips. The 10min videos were made by the old 21sexturycash team and Fame does not want those to stay online - and I think they are right

I can understand if someone is complaining about the bad conversions or still-not-optimized landing page content or late payment, but dudes, stop whining about the lost FREE HOSTED galleries and videos. If it would be that important, you would have made your own and host your own, but you are lazy fucks whining about losing something that was never yours and never costed you a fucking dime

sweet motherfucking jesus

**cybermike** · 04-14-2016, 07:33 AM

It seems to be all the videos.. not just the long ones

**derrick1** · 04-14-2016, 09:48 AM

When we took over the 21SexturyCash program, we had to retool the Hosted Flash Videos to make them compatible with our stats system. So they are now available, but with different links:

http://hot.famehosted.com/3/3E/3E7E0..._120sec_00.flv

Let me know if you find any that don't load and we'll look into it for you

**Arman** · 04-30-2016, 12:03 AM

21sexturecash FHGs won’t work anymore?

**JFK** · 04-30-2016, 12:06 AM

Originally posted by Matyko

every single payment will be handled, not a single cent will be missing, this was highlighted several times, so no worries.

**JFK** · 04-30-2016, 12:08 AM

Originally posted by Matyko

sweet motherfucking jesus

**Sharon1974** · 04-30-2016, 12:19 AM

Still a huge loss in sales! The 21- landing pages are still horrible!

**Kafka** · 04-30-2016, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by derrick1

When we took over the 21SexturyCash program, we had to retool the Hosted Flash Videos to make them compatible with our stats system. So they are now available, but with different links:

http://hot.famehosted.com/3/3E/3E7E0..._120sec_00.flv

Let me know if you find any that don't load and we'll look into it for you

Please,please, flv is obsolete, use mp4 like the old ones.
Think mobile first and than desktop.

**xXXtesy10** · 04-30-2016, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Sharon1974

Yes, where are all the 21st rebills ?

spread ass cheeks

**california** · 05-01-2016, 03:31 AM

No last 21sextury payment here, either..

**brassmonkey** · 05-01-2016, 03:54 AM

adult is a fuking mess.

**TBFS** · 05-02-2016, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by california

No last 21sextury payment here, either..

Thnx to your post i checked if we had gotten it and noticed we didnt.

So thnx for the reminder :D

**CaptainHowdy** · 05-02-2016, 06:55 AM

Originally posted by brassmonkey

adult is a fuking mess.

That ain't news ...

**Arman** · 05-16-2016, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by derrick1

When we took over the 21SexturyCash program, we had to retool the Hosted Flash Videos to make them compatible with our stats system. So they are now available, but with different links:

http://hot.famehosted.com/3/3E/3E7E0..._120sec_00.flv

Let me know if you find any that don't load and we'll look into it for you

But what is about last 21SexturyCash payments????

21sexturecash => gammae

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