hmmm..
I never have any problems with charges when I buy my blacks on blondes memberships..

You ppl actually PAY for porn?? :winkwink:

You prolly got a membership from the cross sell,

i like that fact you said you got "Spam" when trying to
cancel.

there suppose to offer a lower price or another site if you attempt to cancel

nice feature from epoch :thumbsup

Paycom/Epoch are great....

you are funny:1orglaugh

I don't see canceling customers as *that* valuable :1orglaugh

thanks for the sharp advice:winkwink:

Does this mean I need to throw away all the paycom checks and ignore the wires they send? :winkwink:

I don't know anything about the company this guy is talking about (and it looks like most agree that they're good), but everyone is wrong if they think a pre-auth actually takes money OUT of your account.

It will reduce your available balance, but the money is still in your account and that one charge won't cause an overdraft fee. If something ELSE went through while his balance was reduced, that's a possibility, but most banks will refund an overdraft caused by a pre-auth...since the money was still in the account the whole time.

So if this guy claims that he got an overdraft fee, then it wasn't a pre-auth...the company actually TOOK the money.

Just my $.02!

I thought I was going to have to come in here and make a case but thanks to the great posts here I really don't have to. :)

I don't know what you got yourself into Javen, but if you want to email me your member ID or Card # I'll look into it for you. I can assure you that all billing practices we have in place are legit, disclosed, legal, and easy to understand to anyone who reads the simple terms on the join form. Epoch has nothing to gain and much to lose by doing anything other than proper billing. End of story.

Lastly, a pre-auth does not remove funds from your account it reserves them so that the conversion is guaranteed in case the trial does not cancel. Chances are you signed up for one site and a cross sell and that's where your charge came from. If there was freak-ass error (which is highly unlikely) we will be happy to make any wrong right. If not however, I would suggest you know WTF you are talking about before starting a thread to slander anyone.

http://www.epochsystems.com/images/r...ner_120x60.gif

As for our support. It's 24/7/365 with toll free numbers from 8 countries and multi-lingual support and the email receipt you received upon purchase of your trial tells you how to reach us. The fact that I'm answering on a board before 9:00 AM on a Sunday means something don't you think?

Have a nice day.

You're not the brightest bulb on the tree there are you? The first Paycom answer was Rands...

I'm still trying to figure out how you can get down to having 40 bucks in the bank if you have 5 paysites.

:1orglaugh

The actual customer support section i was referring to is http://askcs.com/ not www.paycom.net, paycom.net is the same company. And what imposing is not slander its called exercising my freedom of peaceful protest.

slan·der ( P ) Pronunciation Key (slndr)
n.
Law. Oral communication of false statements injurious to a person's reputation.
A false and malicious statement or report about someone.

v. slan·dered, slan·der·ing, slan·ders
v. tr.
To utter a slander about. See Synonyms at malign.

v. intr.
To utter or spread slander.


I recommend you get a clue before shit talking without concrete proof. I also recommend you you buy a clue on the difference between pre-authorizing a card and charging a card.

A Pre-Auth does NOT remove funds from your account. Also, a Pre-Auth would NOT put your account into the negative. I suggest you monitor your spending habits a little better mr "i'm richer then you and have 5 sites" Furthermore, I suggest you memorize the phrase "Thank you, drive through"

i have prrof you fool and i have the right to say what ever the fuck i want too. go back 3 threads and look at what kind of language mr randy uses towards me a customer. Now tell me is that good customer service! I hear people talking about other billing companies on other boards and you dont see there representitives posting offensive replies to there customers?

the issue is not how he treats you after shit talking his company. the issue is YOU calling paycom thieves.

you obviously know jack shit about how paysites are run, or billed, so why don't you

a: learn something
b: shut yer pie hole
c: piss off
d: get a fucking clue
e: all of the above

I've seen pissing matches between webmasters and billing companies, it's nothing new, but to defame a company in such a manner is slanderous.

It's been explained to you 150 times, are you illiterate? can you NOT read?

fact of the matter is YOU are wrong, like it or not, you are. Furthermore you're a liar. I fail to understand how someone with "5 sites" as you say didn't even have 40$ in his bank account. I know crackheads with no websites that have more money then that.

Actually go back 7 threads and look at what randy has to say, go to the second paragraph. Now randy must we tell your customer that they need to know what the fuck there talking about I mean really randy is that professional.

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I think you have me confused. I have only posted once on this thread (before this reply) and whomever http://askcs.com/ is, they are NOT Paycom.

If you read what I posted, I offered to help.

That?s the customer support page, the people who processed the credit card is indeed paycom. I encourage you to go to that site and look at the contact information.

Actually in the printed form it's Libel, not slander. And I do believe you're 100% guilty of that. And not too bright to boot. :1orglaugh

Bullshit thread starters like this can be banged for

1) defamation -- your vitriol implies malice

2) tortious interference with contract

:321GFY

ASKCS.com is for all the ARS sites

not Paycom, why are you linking to askcs.com to your paysites

Maybe his "PAYSITES" are ARS BYOT? :1orglaugh

"I'm still trying to figure out how you can get down to having 40 bucks in the bank if you have 5 paysites"

Who said his 5 sites were paysites?

I'm guessing they are tgp galleries.

I couldn't have picked a better one myself. :thumbsup

You stick with IBILL you deserve each other, oh by the way try joining another porn site now you made a charge back, you don't stand a chance in hell.

Its common knowledge that Epoch and CCbill are the best in the business and Ibill is the worst. Do you perhaps work for IBILL because your lack of command of the english language is similar to employees of the ill fated IBILL.

Please take you 18 posts and shove them up you stupid infantile ass you pox sucking snot rag, or perhaps you understand ass licking pile of festering puss ?

Cindy xx


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thats bullshit, holly fuck!

I've never seen this before http://askcs.com through Paycom

They are a rock solid company with great support:thumbsup

gotta be platinum lantern

Wrong Wrong Wrong

Did the same thing... Joined for a trial, cancelled, never was billed for the full amount

most trial and cancel joins are from fraudulent users and password traders these days

You likely deserve it, sorry bro, you are not gonna get any sympathy from paysite owners here

paycom's okay, by me even though I don't use them for billing

Lens, and whoever else thinks Paycom is 'rock solid':

NO.

If they are so fucking 'rock solid' then explain why their support sucks ass, and the software that supposedly cancels subscriptions sucks ass too?

I sent Chris 11 fucking emails, which was my cancel confirmations and CC info that he requested, and he cant even fucking respond to one of them. Last I looked he didnt respond back to that fact in the other 'PAYCOM' fraud thread that I started:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...pagen umber=2

When you have a subscription with a company and you cancel the fucking subscription , get a confirmation email that says your subscription is cancelled YET your account with the company says your subscription is active - just for you to go and try to cancel again and the same thing - and STILL get charged for something you cancelled yet you have THREE cancellation confirmation emails in your box saying otherwise.... WTF!

You call that a 'rock solid' company?

Nothing 'rock solid' about a company with broke ass cancellation software that STILL BILLS CUSTOMERS AFTER THEY CANCEL.

Nothing 'rock solid' about a company that cant even fucking answer support emails (11 of them from one person no less).

If they wanna be 'rock solid', they need to fix whatever the fuck causes cancellations to still get billed, and learn to answer emails - especially when they are the ones requesting them!

He didn't say he had any members

That line is Rand's rudest comment, because he used the word 'ass'.

Javen23m, you are a moron, pure and simple.

I think I have heard enough from the paycom.net employees. I was not born yesterday I know the employees of paycom.net are behind allot of the threatening and rude comments in regards to this situation. It doesn?t take a rocket scientist to figure that out. I am not the actual person that was directly evolved in this. He is a trusted good friend of mine and seeing how a company treats a fellow customer really pisses me off.

I am in no way affiliated with paycom, i'm not employed by them, I don't use them as a processor, hell I don't even think I've ever been to their site. I just call morons out when they make stupid remarks and you = moron

Ditto

I just call bullshit when I see it. :321GFY

dude, first off, the only paycom employee who has posted hear is Rand.

and first you said YOU tested a signup at YOUR site and YOU cancelled with overdrew YOUR bank account by $40. then YOU tried to contact paycom and YOUR bank, and YOU got the money credited back to YOUR account.
now you're your saying you're not directly "evolved" (i assume you mean involved or implicated) and that this is happening to a good, trusted friend of yours instead. so what's up with that?

me thinks paycom probably cancelled your account because you had questionable/stolen/etc content or a high chargeback ratio, and now you're pissed.

Any individual with a brain would not outright claim they are affiliated with paycom. Many people on here have aliases. :321GFY

ok you got us

We all work for Epoch, they pay me well everyweek