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  • The Porn Nerd
    Living The Dream
    • Jun 2009
    • 19787

    #1

    What Makes Something "Porn"?

    I met a model today. She told me about her life and business. She's a "sock fetish" model. She and her husband live in Florida. He works as an airplane mechanic at the nearby military base while she stays at home and takes care of their two children.

    For one hour a day she goes into their third bedroom (her "set"), clicks on the webcam and starts taking her socks on and off and....that's it. She dresses as a teen (she's 27) or cheerleader or schoolgirl and makes custom videos for anywhere between $200 and $500 a shot. What's the difference? How many socks she tries on, of course! She said she has thousands of socks from all over the world that her fans send her.

    She is always fully-clothed (except for when she takes the socks off I guess), never gets "too dirty" (as she put it) but is well aware that men are masturbating to what she is doing. So...is it "porn"? If the criteria for "porn" is someone gets a sexual thrill out of it (and masturbates to it) then I say almost anything could be classified as "porn". No?

    (BTW: She makes $100,000 a year. Why is there no gay market for this fetish? If there was I would be out buying argyles right now. )
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  • dyna mo
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    • Dec 2008
    • 68184

    #2
    I say that's porn. She creates it and sells it knowing it's sexually arousing.

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    • plaster
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      • Apr 2015
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      #3
      Only if jizz in sock makes it porn. No jizz, just classify as sock fetish; still high risk processing however since the sock itself is an item that could be shipped with hazmat risks which are potentially fatal to both the postal service men and women as well as the recipients.

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      • dyna mo
        just a fucking jerk
        • Dec 2008
        • 68184

        #4
        Originally posted by plaster
        Only if jizz in sock makes it porn. No jizz, just classify as sock fetish; still high risk processing however since the sock itself is an item that could be shipped with hazmat risks which are potentially fatal to both the postal service men and women as well as the recipients.
        That's an easy way to go to jail fast. Can't ship a sock with bodily fluids in it for profit.

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        • MiamiBoyz
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          • Oct 2012
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          #5
          This thread is very disturbing.

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          • lagwagon
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            • Jul 2001
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            #6
            You know a severed leg is the ultimate stocking stuffer. Mitch Hedburg

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            • #23
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              • The Porn Nerd
                Living The Dream
                • Jun 2009
                • 19787

                #8
                Originally posted by lagwagon
                You know a severed leg is the ultimate stocking stuffer. Mitch Hedburg
                Aww I miss that funny junky!

                She doesn't sell or ship socks. She just...puts them on and off.
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                • ReggieDurango
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                  • Nov 2007
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                  #9
                  I don't know how to define porn, but I know it when I see it ;)

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                  • lagwagon
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                    #10
                    Life is good for her.

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                    • Maurelle Marquez
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                      • Mar 2015
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                      #11
                      Sounds like she's in the right niche

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                      • PorcoRosso
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                        • Sep 2014
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                        Why is there no gay market for this fetish?
                        Isn't there?
                        There used to be a sport shoes/sneakers/basket festish market.
                        But ok yeah might be a tiny little bit more "explicit"
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                        • CPA-Rush
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                          #13
                          insignificant porn /sensual .

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                          • LetterTwenty7
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by CPA-Rush
                            insignificant porn /sensual .
                            Exactly. It's porn-ish.
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                            • Nicky
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                              • Mar 2003
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                              That's an easy way to go to jail fast. Can't ship a sock with bodily fluids in it for profit.
                              What about all those camgirls shipping used and heavily stained panties all over the place?

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                              • Dean S.
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                                • Feb 2016
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                                #16
                                Wow! $100,000 a year for taking on and off a sock.

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                                • BlackCrayon
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                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 19634

                                  #17
                                  she probably downplays some part of it. rubbing the socks on her pussy. playing with her toes, smelling her feet/socks, etc.
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                                  • pornguy
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                                    • Mar 2003
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                                    #18
                                    Porn is what ever someone wants it to be.

                                    When the 50 shades of grey hit the movies here the Moms from the schools were in a fucking uproar and wanting to protest the pornographic movie.

                                    Funny thing is we saw most of them walking out after having seen it.
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                                    • SekobA
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                                      • Oct 2008
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                                      #19
                                      Socks makes the difference

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                                      • dyna mo
                                        just a fucking jerk
                                        • Dec 2008
                                        • 68184

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by Nicky
                                        What about all those camgirls shipping used and heavily stained panties all over the place?
                                        then they are breaking a law.

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                                        • The Porn Nerd
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                                          • Jun 2009
                                          • 19787

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                                          then they are breaking a law.

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                                          • patadeperro
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                                            #22
                                            The perception of the persion who is watching it


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                                            • dyna mo
                                              just a fucking jerk
                                              • Dec 2008
                                              • 68184

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                              Use FedEx or UPS?
                                              the Unites States postal inspectors oversee those shippers as well. as far as my understanding goes, the postal laws apply to all shippers.

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                                              • Mickey_
                                                • Nov 2005
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                ...Why is there no gay market for this fetish? If there was I would be out buying argyles right now. )


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                                                • brassmonkey
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                                                  #25
                                                  uh people being nude or topless and selling it
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                                                  • The Porn Nerd
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                                                    • Jun 2009
                                                    • 19787

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                    the Unites States postal inspectors oversee those shippers as well. as far as my understanding goes, the postal laws apply to all shippers.
                                                    Tell that to the many people who use FedEx to send weed. LOL Everyone knows you can get almost anything through FedEx if you package it right.
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                                                    • PR_Glen
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                                                      #27
                                                      it's a fetish. Fetishes are confused for porn all the time because we, as an industry, often use it as a prelude to sex of some sort. But fetish without sex doesn't really fit into what we market on the day to day either--for a reason. It covers a broader base, not just the weirdos who just like socks.
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                                                      • dyna mo
                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                        • 68184

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                        Tell that to the many people who use FedEx to send weed. LOL Everyone knows you can get almost anything through FedEx if you package it right.
                                                        not sure what you mean. plenty of people ship illicit goods every day, i get that. i was just adding to the thread what some folks might not be aware of, that shipping these soiled items is against the law.

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                                                        • The Porn Nerd
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                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                          • 19787

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                          not sure what you mean. plenty of people ship illicit goods every day, i get that. i was just adding to the thread what some folks might not be aware of, that shipping these soiled items is against the law.
                                                          Thank you for that info, I do appreciate it! I honestly did not know it was unlawful. Thank goodness I never ship (or buy) items like that. LOL

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                                                          • dyna mo
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                                                            • Dec 2008
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                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                            Thank you for that info, I do appreciate it! I honestly did not know it was unlawful. Thank goodness I never ship (or buy) items like that. LOL


                                                            right on. ftr, those guys that ship weed to their friends via fedex are ballsy! i certainly wouldn't do that, my buds out of state have asked, um yeah, no.

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                                                            • EddyTheDog
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                                                              • Jan 2011
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                              right on. ftr, those guys that ship weed to their friends via fedex are ballsy! i certainly wouldn't do that, my buds out of state have asked, um yeah, no.

                                                              In the UK the government are doing a mass screen for bowel cancer, they have been doing it for years - You stick some poo on a stick and send it through the post - I always thought that was a bit gross for the postal workers...

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                                                              • dyna mo
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                                                                • Dec 2008
                                                                • 68184

                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by EddyTheDog
                                                                In the UK the government are doing a mass screen for bowel cancer, they have been doing it for years - You stick some poo on a stick and send it through the post - I always thought that was a bit gross for the postal workers...
                                                                that's the part that's weird to me. obviously, there's a need in some situations to ship disgusting stuff but i don't know enough about it. we had thought of shipping used panties years ago and the lawyer we would use at that time advised us against it due to that law. it wasn't that big a deal so we moved on.

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                                                                • Google Expert
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                                                                  • Jun 2004
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Good question, OP. I can't belive that putting socks on/off could be considered porn by some.


                                                                  While Youtube doesn't consider this video to be porn (a chick touching dick and balls for "educational" purposes):

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                                                                  • CaptainHowdy
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                                                                    • Dec 2004
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    You ought to know by now that everything is porn.

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                                                                    • The Porn Nerd
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                                                                      • Jun 2009
                                                                      • 19787

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Muad'Dib
                                                                      Good question, OP. I can't belive that putting socks on/off could be considered porn by some.


                                                                      While Youtube doesn't consider this video to be porn (a chick touching dick and balls for "educational" purposes):

                                                                      Yeah it's weird what YouTube will allow and what it won't. This model didn't use YouTube so she's probably leaving money on the table. LOL

                                                                      Originally posted by CaptainHowdy
                                                                      You ought to know by now that everything is porn.
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                                                                      • BlackCrayon
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by Muad'Dib
                                                                        Good question, OP. I can't belive that putting socks on/off could be considered porn by some.


                                                                        While Youtube doesn't consider this video to be porn (a chick touching dick and balls for "educational" purposes):

                                                                        youtube allows foot fetish stuff. lots of vids of girls sucking toes on youtube.
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                                                                        • HookUpGFY
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                                                                          • Oct 2015
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Fetish?

                                                                          Sock fetish just sounds like porn.

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                                                                          • ruff
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            If you can't watch it with your mom, it's porn.
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                                                                            • dyna mo
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                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                              • 68184

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by ruff
                                                                              If you can't watch it with your mom, it's porn.
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                                                                              That's exactly right.

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                                                                              • AmeliaG
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                                                                                • Jan 2003
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Well, if the primary point is to appeal to the prurient interest . . .

                                                                                Also, there totally is gay sock fetish. Trenton Ducati is huge and he has a site which is all stocking fetish dudes.
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                                                                                • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                  Living The Dream
                                                                                  • Jun 2009
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by AmeliaG
                                                                                  Well, if the primary point is to appeal to the prurient interest . . .

                                                                                  Also, there totally is gay sock fetish. Trenton Ducati is huge and he has a site which is all stocking fetish dudes.
                                                                                  Thank you Amelia G!! Now I can get out of this crazy webmaster biz and sit around trying on fucking socks all day long while gay dudes whack their jacks. But will I know it? No sir! I will be too bizzy counting my fortune one little piggy at a time. :D

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                                                                                  • plaster
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                                                                                    • Apr 2015
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                    Thank you Amelia G!! Now I can get out of this crazy webmaster biz and sit around trying on fucking socks all day long while gay dudes whack their jacks. But will I know it? No sir! I will be too bizzy counting my fortune one little piggy at a time. :D

                                                                                    So you are going to put on stockings and take stockings off for webcam cash while counting little piggies?

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                                                                                    • The Porn Nerd
                                                                                      Living The Dream
                                                                                      • Jun 2009
                                                                                      • 19787

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by plaster
                                                                                      So you are going to put on stockings and take stockings off for webcam cash while counting little piggies?
                                                                                      Dude, if I could get paid for sitting there taking socks on and off while gay men whacked off to me I would have ZERO problem. LOL

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                                                                                      • Sednub997
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                                                                                        • Dec 2008
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                                                                                        #44
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                                                                                        • AmeliaG
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                                          Thank you Amelia G!! Now I can get out of this crazy webmaster biz and sit around trying on fucking socks all day long while gay dudes whack their jacks. But will I know it? No sir! I will be too bizzy counting my fortune one little piggy at a time. :D

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                                                                                          • SonyaGlam
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            I would like to see her performance and then I could tell how 'pornographic' it really is

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                                                                                            • CaptainHowdy
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                                                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                                                              • 94735

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by Sednub997
                                                                                              Putting my cock in the hot pussy
                                                                                              Originally posted by SonyaGlam
                                                                                              I would like to see her performance and then I could tell how 'pornographic' it really is
                                                                                              There we go ... and welcome aboard.

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                                                                                              • bns666
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                                                                                                • Mar 2005
                                                                                                • 11555

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by SonyaGlam
                                                                                                I would like to see her performance and then I could tell how 'pornographic' it really is
                                                                                                do you have a performance to show us?
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                                                                                                • Barry-xlovecam
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Porn can be a state of mind -- most people just don't get that

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                                                                                                  • NatalieK
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                    I say that's porn. She creates it and sells it knowing it's sexually arousing.
                                                                                                    this


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