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  • Odysseus
    Confirmed User
    • Apr 2005
    • 745

    #1

    Google https pandemia give a chance for http sites

    SE traffic is growing on my http sites. Looks like competitors who started migration to https created a lot of mistakes and problems when switch sites to https, lost SEO scores and lost good index positions.
  • wehateporn
    Promoting Debate on GFY
    • Apr 2007
    • 27176

    #2
    Nice while it lasts

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    • nico-t
      emperor of my world
      • Aug 2004
      • 29901

      #3
      sites who switch to https that don't need https, but do it just because google says so, are retarded.

      Slaves of google who change their sites whenever google hiccups... It's the most stupid thing you can do.

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      • Odysseus
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2005
        • 745

        #4
        major site switch correctly http->https from first time is practically impossible

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        • j3rkules
          VIP
          • Jul 2013
          • 22101

          #5
          Originally posted by nico-t
          sites who switch to https that don't need https, but do it just because google says so, are retarded.

          Slaves of google who change their sites whenever google hiccups... It's the most stupid thing you can do.
          I agree with most of that. I would say only sites like paysites need https.

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          • Klen
            • Aug 2006
            • 32234

            #6
            Originally posted by j3rkules
            I agree with most of that. I would say only sites like paysites need https.
            Yep, or sites which have members. Adding https to free site would be completely stupid.

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            • Barry-xlovecam
              It's 42
              • Jun 2010
              • 18083

              #7
              In HTTPS the requests for URLs are in plain text -- HTTPS only encrypts the data exchange.

              Copyright infringing data (like tube videos) could not be sniffed and would fly under the radar. Illegal communication could not be sniffed by the NSA and other security agencies < heads into wehateporn territory.

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              • rowan
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Mar 2002
                • 17393

                #8
                Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                In HTTPS the requests for URLs are in plain text -- HTTPS only encrypts the data exchange.
                ? The only thing a sniffer will see in plain text is the hostname when the browser supports SNI. Everything else, including the specific object request, is encrypted.

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                • just a punk
                  So fuckin' bored
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 32385

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                  In HTTPS the requests for URLs are in plain text -- HTTPS only encrypts the data exchange.
                  No. Only the domain will be seen, not the particular URLs. RTFM.
                  Obey the Cowgod

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                  • Barry-xlovecam
                    It's 42
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 18083

                    #10
                    OK just the domain AFTER the First connection -- all the better to hide the pirate URI

                    This is just Google hiding its malfeasance, nonfeasance or misfeasance ... depends on your POV
                    [url]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q
                    .....
                    =&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=
                    0ahUKEwjF_d_-07rSAhXq44MKHS6FAM0QFggcMAA&


                    ... url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gingersoftware.com%2Fenglish-online%2Fspelling-book%2Fconfusing-words%2Fmalfeasance-misfeasance-nonfeasance&usg=AFQjCNGrwWsioAsL0FLdUHX5h27RN3aICg &sig2=lhZXCElMsRIFjuybETtl3A

                    Mouse over the link ^^^ get it?
                    The redirect it NOT encrypted
                    I had to break it up

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                    • rowan
                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                      • Mar 2002
                      • 17393

                      #11
                      Google link starts with https, which means the redirect is encrypted... even if the destination site is not. I don't get your point.

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                      • Barry-xlovecam
                        It's 42
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 18083

                        #12
                        In case there are ANY questions

                        ---- sniffing packet headers is trivial------------------------------------------------------
                        https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...sRIFjuybETtl3A

                        GET /url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&u act=8&ved=0ahUKEwjF_d_-07rSAhXq44MKHS6FAM0QFggcMAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gingersoftware.com%2Fenglish-online%2Fspelling-book%2Fconfusing-words%2Fmalfeasance-misfeasance-nonfeasance&usg=AFQjCNGrwWsioAsL0FLdUHX5h27RN3aICg&sig2=lhZXC ElMsRIFjuybETtl3A HTTP/1.1
                        Host: Google
                        User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0
                        Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
                        Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
                        Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br
                        Referer: https://www.google.com/
                        Cookie: NID=98=JOUZw9ThfqdCvjW7_4ngFA7WfZoYjjvxtnoXpmSOEuB C4Rbj5bM0BgO-Vr2BrncEpjB0byEe86eGRY1rDms3QxKIzk0vwsJDwf7F4_5Zd3 PY4q32H4Rxw_YxJWNHy99SgK6uzj9zc2W0MGE-CKLzFCOymXqzTIS55Wotl5CHAp0NQbHZ6lCGsvQHU8Z6hpLLgz-RiQnLg3qGKvyZtF0aZx6x4tBS4OWwIEX-KoobOsRnijx3dA7FRCebjryxywLtKTUperXf1nCZCQF0nG9QOW J0tnGvoJIGo1WtH464JPJaXyZT1FHVvmOw9pdvLOFu33H6qaTJ VzyC7LyIEHGFGSXpBclweWho62Nks1UGwiDIo2rSmRDFMbkal3 D-4Pz4v8bEXkEPUQng; OGPC=5061451-2:5061821-6:873035776-6:807236608-1:; OGP=-5061451:-5061821:; CONSENT=YES+US.en+20170205-19-0; _ga=GA1.1.282654208.1487131261; SID=ZgQoVCyguOgGLHpvARuyX-vtA6vyJ4yEFf5NyVTXvr1ZciNd9_xlU4VVOGQTd46-1Wk7Tg.; HSID=Ae1blZ7UboHaBMAlA; SSID=AB52v6bMy-2EkofLH; APISID=n80mTK3bKNVnCcnD/AyRCDDkDadctMAEAX; SAPISID=_wAqM_DQq38gDQcp/A9jWzkVO4ITbHQ3eP; GMAIL_RTT=895; S=billing-ui-v3=wjxUkKgwa9UTMxoL-ik2A5M4KcPh6YUA:billing-ui-v3-efe=wjxUkKgwa9UTMxoL-ik2A5M4KcPh6YUA:quotestreamer=5WYvYeOd4VmZMYhjyx3M CQ
                        Connection: keep-alive
                        Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1

                        HTTP/2.0 200 OK
                        Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 15:42:41 GMT
                        Pragma: no-cache
                        Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1990 00:00:00 GMT
                        Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate
                        Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
                        Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=86400
                        Content-Encoding: gzip
                        Server: gws
                        Content-Length: 319
                        x-xss-protection: 1; mode=block
                        Alt-Svc: quic=":443"; ma=2592000; v="36,35,34"
                        X-Firefox-Spdy: h2

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                        • Barry-xlovecam
                          It's 42
                          • Jun 2010
                          • 18083

                          #13
                          https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...t-gTGofWfUBkkQ

                          GET /url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0ahUK EwjF_d_-07rSAhXq44MKHS6FAM0QFggiMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FMisfeasance&usg=AFQjCNFxl4FRQV6DJdxJKgfle_VvuSp3Fw&sig2=dxXJr LE_t-gTGofWfUBkkQ HTTP/1.1
                          Host: Google
                          User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/51.0
                          Accept: text/html,application/xhtml+xml,application/xml;q=0.9,*/*;q=0.8
                          Accept-Language: en-US,en;q=0.5
                          Accept-Encoding: gzip, deflate, br
                          Referer: https://www.google.com/
                          Cookie: NID=98=JOUZw9ThfqdCvjW7_4ngFA7WfZoYjjvxtnoXpmSOEuB C4Rbj5bM0BgO-Vr2BrncEpjB0byEe86eGRY1rDms3QxKIzk0vwsJDwf7F4_5Zd3 PY4q32H4Rxw_YxJWNHy99SgK6uzj9zc2W0MGE-CKLzFCOymXqzTIS55Wotl5CHAp0NQbHZ6lCGsvQHU8Z6hpLLgz-RiQnLg3qGKvyZtF0aZx6x4tBS4OWwIEX-KoobOsRnijx3dA7FRCebjryxywLtKTUperXf1nCZCQF0nG9QOW J0tnGvoJIGo1WtH464JPJaXyZT1FHVvmOw9pdvLOFu33H6qaTJ VzyC7LyIEHGFGSXpBclweWho62Nks1UGwiDIo2rSmRDFMbkal3 D-4Pz4v8bEXkEPUQng; OGPC=5061451-2:5061821-6:873035776-6:807236608-1:; OGP=-5061451:-5061821:; CONSENT=YES+US.en+20170205-19-0; _ga=GA1.1.282654208.1487131261; SID=ZgQoVCyguOgGLHpvARuyX-vtA6vyJ4yEFf5NyVTXvr1ZciNd9_xlU4VVOGQTd46-1Wk7Tg.; HSID=Ae1blZ7UboHaBMAlA; SSID=AB52v6bMy-2EkofLH; APISID=n80mTK3bKNVnCcnD/AyRCDDkDadctMAEAX; SAPISID=_wAqM_DQq38gDQcp/A9jWzkVO4ITbHQ3eP; GMAIL_RTT=895; S=billing-ui-v3=wjxUkKgwa9UTMxoL-ik2A5M4KcPh6YUA:billing-ui-v3-efe=wjxUkKgwa9UTMxoL-ik2A5M4KcPh6YUA:quotestreamer=5WYvYeOd4VmZMYhjyx3M CQ
                          Connection: keep-alive
                          Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1

                          HTTP/2.0 200 OK
                          Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2017 15:51:44 GMT
                          Pragma: no-cache
                          Expires: Fri, 01 Jan 1990 00:00:00 GMT
                          Cache-Control: no-cache, must-revalidate
                          Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8
                          Strict-Transport-Security: max-age=86400
                          Content-Encoding: gzip
                          Server: gws
                          Content-Length: 281
                          x-xss-protection: 1; mode=block
                          Alt-Svc: quic=":443"; ma=2592000; v="36,35,34"
                          X-Firefox-Spdy: h2
                          ----------------------------------------------------------
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misfeasance

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                          • rowan
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Mar 2002
                            • 17393

                            #14
                            Are you looking at these headers through a browser extension, or sniffing TCP/IP packets? I suspect it's the former.

                            You do know that HTTPS is standard HTTP encrypted via TLS, right? So the browser will still send HTTP headers to the remote server.

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                            • Barry-xlovecam
                              It's 42
                              • Jun 2010
                              • 18083

                              #15
                              Google is making you work to cover their own ass -- clever cunts

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                              • Barry-xlovecam
                                It's 42
                                • Jun 2010
                                • 18083

                                #16
                                Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
                                Google is making you work to cover their own ass -- clever cunts
                                Pay me to set up a snort -- for GFY proof -- you are out of youR mind.

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                                • Barry-xlovecam
                                  It's 42
                                  • Jun 2010
                                  • 18083

                                  #17
                                  Prove it -- the FIRST connection is in plain text
                                  between the browser and the client
                                  with the FULL URL

                                  maybe it is

                                  31
                                  down vote


                                  New answer to old question, sorry. I thought I'd add my $.02

                                  The OP asked if the headers were encrypted.

                                  They are: in transit.

                                  They are NOT: when not in transit.

                                  So, your browser's URL (and title, in some cases) can display the querystring (which usually contain the most sensitive details) and some details in the header; the browser knows some header information (content type, unicode, etc); and browser history, password management, favorites/bookmarks, and cached pages will all contain the querystring. Server logs on the remote end can also contain querystring as well as some content details.

                                  security - Are HTTPS headers encrypted? - Stack Overflow

                                  who fucking cares if it is not confidential data the WHY THE FUCK does in matter?

                                  You boss finds out you are wanking on the job? are you that gullible?

                                  Jump for joy LMAO

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                                  • Barry-xlovecam
                                    It's 42
                                    • Jun 2010
                                    • 18083

                                    #18
                                    Sorry I went off but Fuck Google and this https nonsense.

                                    Should I give a fuck about protecting users from their governments knowing what porn they are watching?

                                    Why should I have to work, at my expense, to protect internet users from their government's (or others ) intrusive behavior? I can not think of any good reason.
                                    So I can get school kids on our adult websites safely? How is that going to make me any money?
                                    Fuck Google

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