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  • baccybandit
    Confirmed User
    • May 2013
    • 113

    #1

    Business Producing uk pornography

    So I'm still researching hiring girls between the ages of 18 - 35 to become webcam models and cream off sign ups + revshare + commission.

    It doesn't seem to be immedialty illegal which is a good step. However i want to be promoting these girls on reddit as well ideally they would be taking selfies and pelfies at home and (heres the tricky part), releasing the images for me to use exclusively to create reddit profiles in there stage name to promote them.

    now as I am not the content producer i take it a model release form wouldn't work? as the model is also the producer? is there also a uk equivalent to the US 2257 form?

    Here's a diagram of what I'm planning to do

    Find women over 18 on social media and possibly dating sites and get them to contact me on skype
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    Get them to send me scans of 2 forms of valid photo ID + a utility bill + get them to hold up the photo idea in front of webcam (to which i would screen grab)
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    All user information gets stored securely offline on an encrypted flashdrive.
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    Explain to them fully the business plan aka that you become an adult webcam model that my business will promote the model on certain websites (mainly reddit) and we in effect become there agent. That we will promote the girls to content producers and that we will take a cut of anything they make from a content shoot.
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    We get them signup to webcam sites under our affiiate link (with team viewer - and help them fill out the application form)
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    We get them to take selfies and pelfies of themselves and sign them over to us so we can use them on reddit as there stage name (this is the bit I'm struggling with)
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    we then promote them on here and other places to content producers

    rinse and repeat!

    I know the business section on here is mostly filled with people posting irrelevant news storys but i must admit im struggling to find uk related info on this.

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  • CurrentlySober
    Too lazy to wipe my ass
    • Aug 2002
    • 38938

    #2
    You seem to be over-thinking things. The reason that there is not a UK equivalent of a US 2257 is because 2257 is not a UK law. Its only for the US.

    The flaw in your plan isn't going to be to convince girls to perform on cam - Its going to be to convince them to give YOU all their personal IDs and details. I mean, FUCK THAT! they would be crazy to give you info like that which you don't need and isn't a legal requirement in the UK

    As for model release I don't think its strictly necessary, if the girl is taking the pics and passing them on to you. The only thing a release allows you to do, is to use the pics for whatever you want, regardless of what the model may or may not like you to do with them, as effectively they sign away and and all rights to the pics in return for payment.

    I doubt that applies in your case though, as if you are only gonna use them to promote the girls and the girls know that and have given you the pics for that exact purpose, whats the worst that can happen? The girl changes her mind and doesnt want you to promote her or use her pics, then thats fair - You just take them down... Sure you have wasted your time, but welcome to being a middleman in the buisness.

    If you wanna be 'sneaky' use this form, which is a model release I have used in the UK myself. It includes the relevant 2257 sections as I sold my work to the states so I covered myself. Download it here - www.leocaprice.com/docs/adult-model-release.doc - and hardcode your info into it and take out the payment parts. Simply have the girls complete it for you as a formality, and that would cover you in the event that a girl wanted you to stop using her pics and you decided not too...

    But we are heading into a murky area that doesn't need to be explored. Just be up-front and honest and you will still get problems but the problems will be easy to overcome. Like I say, don't over-think and overcomplicate things. The reason you cant find certain info is cause it doesn't exist as it has no need to exist.

    Anyway hope this helps at least a bit


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    • NatalieK
      Natalie K
      • Apr 2010
      • 20106

      #3
      Originally posted by CurrentlySober
      You seem to be over-thinking things. The reason that there is not a UK equivalent of a US 2257 is because 2257 is not a UK law. Its only for the US.

      The flaw in your plan isn't going to be to convince girls to perform on cam - Its going to be to convince them to give YOU all their personal IDs and details. I mean, FUCK THAT! they would be crazy to give you info like that which you don't need and isn't a legal requirement in the UK

      As for model release I don't think its strictly necessary, if the girl is taking the pics and passing them on to you. The only thing a release allows you to do, is to use the pics for whatever you want, regardless of what the model may or may not like you to do with them, as effectively they sign away and and all rights to the pics in return for payment.

      I doubt that applies in your case though, as if you are only gonna use them to promote the girls and the girls know that and have given you the pics for that exact purpose, whats the worst that can happen? The girl changes her mind and doesnt want you to promote her or use her pics, then thats fair - You just take them down... Sure you have wasted your time, but welcome to being a middleman in the buisness.

      If you wanna be 'sneaky' use this form, which is a model release I have used in the UK myself. It includes the relevant 2257 sections as I sold my work to the states so I covered myself. Download it here - www.leocaprice.com/docs/adult-model-release.doc - and hardcode your info into it and take out the payment parts. Simply have the girls complete it for you as a formality, and that would cover you in the event that a girl wanted you to stop using her pics and you decided not too...

      But we are heading into a murky area that doesn't need to be explored. Just be up-front and honest and you will still get problems but the problems will be easy to overcome. Like I say, don't over-think and overcomplicate things. The reason you cant find certain info is cause it doesn't exist as it has no need to exist.

      Anyway hope this helps at least a bit
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      • redwhiteandblue
        Bollocks
        • Jun 2007
        • 2793

        #4
        I'm not exactly clear on your business model here. You're going to get girls to sign up to webcam sites via your affiliate link? What's in it for them?
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        • baccybandit
          Confirmed User
          • May 2013
          • 113

          #5
          Currently sober most of your posts are usally utter shit, but I must say this has helped me an awful lot. Thank you.

          Red White and Blue I am helping these girls find work (I believe most of these girls will never have explored this adult industry before) It will be promoted as adult entertainment and then when i explain to them. I can say that firstly they need to sign up to cam sites x and y and our team will help promote there accounts.

          we also have global industry contacts and may be able to find you professional modeling shoots with adult content producers from across the globe (aka new talent posts on gfy)

          as for handing over the data, I'l make myself look like a big corporate, and go with the age verification thing

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          • DVTimes
            xxx
            • Jun 2003
            • 31658

            #6
            Most girls who want to do web cam already do.

            Most webcam models do not want there pics and vids all over the place.
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            • DVTimes
              xxx
              • Jun 2003
              • 31658

              #7
              Originally posted by baccybandit
              Currently sober most of your posts are usally utter shit, but I must say this has helped me an awful lot. Thank you.

              Red White and Blue I am helping these girls find work (I believe most of these girls will never have explored this adult industry before) It will be promoted as adult entertainment and then when i explain to them. I can say that firstly they need to sign up to cam sites x and y and our team will help promote there accounts.

              we also have global industry contacts and may be able to find you professional modeling shoots with adult content producers from across the globe (aka new talent posts on gfy)

              as for handing over the data, I'l make myself look like a big corporate, and go with the age verification thing
              Personally I would never contact any female if she was not already a model.

              It only takes you to contact a single female under age of 18, and you will end up with a whole lot of problems.

              I can see your plan having of many problems.
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              • CurrentlySober
                Too lazy to wipe my ass
                • Aug 2002
                • 38938

                #8
                Originally posted by baccybandit
                as for handing over the data, I'l make myself look like a big corporate, and go with the age verification thing
                But for what actual purpose? If they sign up as webcam models they will have to provide the proof to the cam companies themselves, and their acceptance by the cam companies proves to you that they are of age.

                Aside from simply amassing a collection of private sensitive details just for the sake of it, why do you want to do that to begin with? What are you actually going to do with it? Serious question?

                I'm not trying to be funny with you. I'm just wondering why that extra step, that WILL put a lot of girls off, you feel to be necessary? If its just because you think it makes you look more professional to ask for it, I think that it will bite you on the ass very quickly... Thats all


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                • DVTimes
                  xxx
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 31658

                  #9
                  Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                  But for what actual purpose? If they sign up as webcam models they will have to provide the proof to the cam companies themselves, and their acceptance by the cam companies proves to you that they are of age.

                  Aside from simply amassing a collection of private sensitive details just for the sake of it, why do you want to do that to begin with? What are you actually going to do with it? Serious question?

                  I'm not trying to be funny with you. I'm just wondering why that extra step, that WILL put a lot of girls off, you feel to be necessary? If its just because you think it makes you look more professional to ask for it, I think that it will bite you on the ass very quickly... Thats all
                  To be honest I suspect its some bloke who thinks he can play at being some sort of agent in the hope he gets to have sex with one of the girls.

                  I may be wrong, but if I had a pound for the times I have had men come out with there business model, that clearly the aim is them getting sex, I would be super rich now.
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                  • CurrentlySober
                    Too lazy to wipe my ass
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 38938

                    #10
                    Originally posted by DVTimes
                    To be honest I suspect its some bloke who thinks he can play at being some sort of agent in the hope he gets to have sex with one of the girls.

                    I may be wrong, but if I had a pound for the times I have had men come out with there business model, that clearly the aim is them getting sex, I would be super rich now.
                    I dunno. The rest of it is perfectly plausible. I see no problem with approaching girls to see if they would consider cam work. I mean back in about 95/96 myself and the X used to hand out cards in the street to hot girls. For every 100 or so 1 girl took us up and that was for full on hardcore porn - not cam work...

                    I mean if its - approach girl - have her sign up - she takes some pics - he posts them on reddit and promotes her show etc... All fine and dandy. He may even make a few quid...

                    I just dont get the personal info angle...


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                    • DVTimes
                      xxx
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 31658

                      #11
                      Originally posted by CurrentlySober
                      I dunno. The rest of it is perfectly plausible. I see no problem with approaching girls to see if they would consider cam work. I mean back in about 95/96 myself and the X used to hand out cards in the street to hot girls. For every 100 or so 1 girl took us up and that was for full on hardcore porn - not cam work...

                      I mean if its - approach girl - have her sign up - she takes some pics - he posts them on reddit and promotes her show etc... All fine and dandy. He may even make a few quid...

                      I just dont get the personal info angle...
                      It sounds like a 'cover' for him to go up to women in the street.

                      'Its ok officer I am an agent.'

                      'Its ok officer they know about me on gfy and they will confirm my story.'
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                      • baccybandit
                        Confirmed User
                        • May 2013
                        • 113

                        #12
                        The personal info angle, is simple

                        if I'm posting images on reddit of girls in sexual scenes and i am the only outflow of these pictures i want to make damn sure that if i do have the police or who ever nocking at my door that i can prove all the pictures are of girls of age.

                        its not like i can say well it came from (x porn site) they have compliance look here

                        I may be being over cautious

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                        • baccybandit
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2013
                          • 113

                          #13
                          nope will be all online, im not looking to get laid im looking to exploit skint uni students when they are out of money and there next student loan installment isnt untill the following month

                          adult seems to be dying but there seems to be plenty of girls who are skint and looking for work, far better to target this angle than the punters

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                          • DVTimes
                            xxx
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 31658

                            #14
                            Originally posted by baccybandit
                            The personal info angle, is simple

                            if I'm posting images on reddit of girls in sexual scenes and i am the only outflow of these pictures i want to make damn sure that if i do have the police or who ever nocking at my door that i can prove all the pictures are of girls of age.

                            its not like i can say well it came from (x porn site) they have compliance look here

                            I may be being over cautious

                            If you go up to women and they report you, you will be charged.

                            Also reddit is freeloaders. They do not pay even for webcam.

                            And why are you wanting pics of girls in 'sexual scenes'? At most you post non nude, as you want people to see her webcam.
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                            • DVTimes
                              xxx
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 31658

                              #15
                              Originally posted by baccybandit
                              nope will be all online, im not looking to get laid im looking to exploit skint uni students when they are out of money and there next student loan installment isnt untill the following month

                              adult seems to be dying but there seems to be plenty of girls who are skint and looking for work, far better to target this angle than the punters
                              I tell you what, why not promote webcam sites, and prove you can.

                              At the moment you sound like you starting out.

                              It sounds very much like,
                              Hi I am [insert name] I can make you money doing webcam. Please send me your nude pics. Then I will dick around on reddit giving away your nude pics. I have no idea if it will work, but at least I have seen you nude.
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