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dyna mo 02-03-2016 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20719531)
Not even comparable. They virtually tied and in normal elections would have caused an automatic recount, whereas Trump cannot accept reality.


im not comparing anything, i stated primaries have a long history of candidates/campaigns questioning/bitching about the results and supported that with proof that even Sanders' camp takes issue with the results/reality.

the reality is the iowa caucus is over. Sanders won't get a recount and Trump won't get a do-over, just like all the sore losers in the past.

Robbie 02-03-2016 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20719521)
Wow what a crybaby. Not really surprised much though.

Mark, please educate yourself and don't listen to GFY "experts". Trump is pissed (as is Ben Carson) because just as the Iowa voters were going in to vote at Caucus...Cruz had his people there shouting that Ben Carson had dropped out of the race and if you were a Carson supporter you should vote Cruz.

Everyone wondered how Cruz picked up those extra points on voting day when the polls showed otherwise the day before.

THAT is how he did it. By lying and having the people in his "Ground Game" deceive the voters literally as they were walking in to vote.

Will Trump get a "re-election" in Iowa? No.
Does he have a good point and a political point to make about Cruz's dirty tactics. Yes.

Trump has been saying that Cruz is a "nasty person" for several weeks. This kind of "proves" it.

How will it all play out? I don't know. But yes, as with everything Trump says or does...his haters try to spin it.

Reality is...why isn't SuckOnThis talking about this dirty shit that Cruz just pulled?
Cruz is the religious nut case. Not Trump. Cruz is the "extreme" right winger. Not Trump.

Weird isn't it?

dyna mo 02-03-2016 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719543)
Mark, please educate yourself and don't listen to GFY "experts". Trump is pissed (as is Ben Carson) because just as the Iowa voters were going in to vote at Caucus...Cruz had his people there shouting that Ben Carson had dropped out of the race and if you were a Carson supporter you should vote Cruz.

Everyone wondered how Cruz picked up those extra points on voting day when the polls showed otherwise the day before.

THAT is how he did it. By lying and having the people in his "Ground Game" deceive the voters literally as they were walking in to vote.

Will Trump get a "re-election" in Iowa? No.
Does he have a good point and a political point to make about Cruz's dirty tactics. Yes.

Trump has been saying that Cruz is a "nasty person" for several weeks. This kind of "proves" it.

How will it all play out? I don't know. But yes, as with everything Trump says or does...his haters try to spin it.

Reality is...why isn't SuckOnThis talking about this dirty shit that Cruz just pulled?
Cruz is the religious nut case. Not Trump. Cruz is the "extreme" right winger. Not Trump.

Weird isn't it?


don't forget that the libs are talking out of both sides of their mouths. they wanted Cruz to beat Trump.

Rochard 02-03-2016 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719543)
Mark, please educate yourself and don't listen to GFY "experts". Trump is pissed (as is Ben Carson) because just as the Iowa voters were going in to vote at Caucus...Cruz had his people there shouting that Ben Carson had dropped out of the race and if you were a Carson supporter you should vote Cruz.

Everyone wondered how Cruz picked up those extra points on voting day when the polls showed otherwise the day before.

THAT is how he did it. By lying and having the people in his "Ground Game" deceive the voters literally as they were walking in to vote.

Will Trump get a "re-election" in Iowa? No.
Does he have a good point and a political point to make about Cruz's dirty tactics. Yes.

Trump has been saying that Cruz is a "nasty person" for several weeks. This kind of "proves" it.

How will it all play out? I don't know. But yes, as with everything Trump says or does...his haters try to spin it.

Reality is...why isn't SuckOnThis talking about this dirty shit that Cruz just pulled?
Cruz is the religious nut case. Not Trump. Cruz is the "extreme" right winger. Not Trump.

Weird isn't it?

Do you know what is weird.... We've heard that this happened, but... Not one video of anyone saying Carson had dropped out. Not one single person has come forward and said that someone told them that Carson dropped out. Not one.

Robbie 02-03-2016 10:12 AM

That's because Carson DIDN'T drop out.

Cruz has since phoned Carson and apologized. But of course...Cruz ended up winning the Iowa election for that "mistake". :(

SuckOnThis 02-03-2016 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20719543)
Do you know what is weird.... We've heard that this happened, but... Not one video of anyone saying Carson had dropped out. Not one single person has come forward and said that someone told them that Carson dropped out. Not one.

That is weird. Why isn't Robbie talking about that?

Vendzilla 02-03-2016 10:19 AM

Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan also didn't win the Iowa Caucus. So Trump is in good company

Robbie 02-03-2016 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SuckOnThis (Post 20719559)
That is weird. Why isn't Robbie talking about that?

Just did numbnuts. :1orglaugh

Are you having reading comprehension problems?

NKYKev 02-03-2016 01:02 PM

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Do you know what is weird.... We've heard that this happened, but... Not one video of anyone saying Carson had dropped out. Not one single person has come forward and said that someone told them that Carson dropped out. Not one.
Are you denying it happened? Especially after Cruz apologize for it? Here is an excerpt from a Time article on the subject.

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Members of Carson??s team furnished evidence Monday of various precinct captains alleging misconduct by the Cruz campaign.

Ryan Rhodes, Carson??s Iowa state director, showed reporters a text on his phone from Barbara Heki, a Mike Huckabee supporter. ??The Cruz speakers at our caucus announced Carson was suspending his campaign for a while after caucus. They did this before the vote. Same thing happened at another caucus. Sounds like slimy Cruzing to me,? the text read.

Jason Osborne, Carson??s deputy senior strategist, read aloud another missive, this one an email from their precinct chair in Muscatine: ??The guy speaking for Ted Cruz right before the vote, he was supposed to be done, he announced that there was a story on CNN that Ben Carson was taking a break after Iowa, and then stated, ??So you might want to rethink wasting your vote on him.???

Cruz??s team flatly denies the allegations. ??That??s absurd,? spokesperson Catherine Frazier said.
Time Article.

Actual Cruz campaign text shown in this article. ActualText.

hottoddy 02-03-2016 01:59 PM

Iowa doesn't mean shit aside from the crazy publicity it gets for being so early. Iowa didn't pick the last two GOP nominees (2008, 2012), and likely did not pick this one. Regardless of your side, it will take months before a clearer picture develops - perhaps all the way to the conventions.

It appears it won't be a coronation for anyone ... and that's good thing. If Hillary finally gets indicted on her most illegal activities, it just could be Sanders v Trump. That'll be crazy, as Trump may pull many moderate Democrats.

Paul Markham 02-03-2016 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20719504)
Why would a public university like University of Calif donate that kind of money?



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The same reason the banks donated to Romney. Buying a president don't come cheap.

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2MuchMark 02-03-2016 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719543)
Mark, please educate yourself and don't listen to GFY "experts".

Like you? Nya nya nyaaaaa....


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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719543)
Trump is pissed (as is Ben Carson) because just as the Iowa voters were going in to vote at Caucus...Cruz had his people there shouting that Ben Carson had dropped out of the race and if you were a Carson supporter you should vote Cruz.

Did he really do this? Probably. Dirty politics? Of course. Do I care? No - both Trump and Cruz are scumbags. Trump tried to win votes with scare tactics, bigoted slurs and failed. Cruz played dirty tricks too, especially with with this Cruz campaign draws condemnation for strategy of shaming Iowans to caucus | US news | The Guardian not to mention sucking up to the religions right.

The point is that Trump is still a crybaby. If he thinks he was frauded out of the vote, great - he should spend time trying to prove it instead of wasting time whining about it on Twitter.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719543)
Will Trump get a "re-election" in Iowa? No.

Does it matter? No. Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush all LOST in the past. This whole process is just starting and I think it still anybody's game at this point.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719543)
Does he have a good point and a political point to make about Cruz's dirty tactics. Yes.

Of course he does - I just think he is going about it the wrong way. He should file a lawsuit and then bring it up during debates or even commercials, etc. A twitter war is pointless.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719543)
Trump has been saying that Cruz is a "nasty person" for several weeks. This kind of "proves" it.

As if no one knew that already (except for the idiots who voted for Cruz that is). But do you think Trump is any less Nasty? I hope not. Both of these assholes deserve to waste their time, brains, money, and clout fighting each other like the boobs they both are.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719543)
How will it all play out? I don't know. But yes, as with everything Trump says or does...his haters try to spin it.

Hillary will win, thats how it will play out.

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719543)
Cruz is the religious nut case. Not Trump. Cruz is the "extreme" right winger. Not Trump.

Actually I'll give you 50% on this. Cruz is a nut case, but I don't think he's that religious - I think he's just pandering to the religious. He's better at than Trump.

The most religious quack you have in your party right now is Ben Carson. Did you read this and see the pictures? Ben Carson's House: Photos Show an Homage to Himself and Jesus : People.com

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/201...carson-800.jpg


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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20719543)
Weird isn't it?

Very, very definitely weird.

Rochard 02-03-2016 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Vendzilla (Post 20719562)
Bill Clinton, George H.W. Bush and Ronald Reagan also didn't win the Iowa Caucus. So Trump is in good company

But.... Trump keeps saying "I'm a winner, I'm a winner, I'm a winner" and "only loosers get second place". Then he goes on and on about polls and how he is always on top. Well, he jut got cut down to size.

I think people voting for him in a poll is one thing, but voting for him for real is another thing. At least I hope so.

JohnnyClips - BANNED FOR LIFE 01-22-2017 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20718699)
Well the large crowds he draws indicates otherwise...if the majority of them are legitimate supporters who will actually vote in primaries, which I doubt.

Spot on! :1orglaugh

baddog 01-23-2017 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20718685)
That's what the article said, implying that there aren't enough low-educated people in Iowa.

Low educated?

You must be one.

crockett 01-23-2017 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by TCLGirls (Post 20718685)
That's what the article said, implying that there aren't enough low-educated people in Iowa.

Trump can fix that!

Nick85 03-20-2017 09:07 AM

if I could live in america, I would give my voice to Trump! :)


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