Not really. The blade is lowered, so he should have seen her standing there at that point, but if he began to move forward and raised the blade he cannot see what is immediately in front of him (I know this because I have operated a dozer before) and could have assumed that she had moved out of the way. In addition from inside the enclosed cab his chances of hearing anyone yelling at him would be slim to none. I have serious doubts that the dozer operator intentionally ran over her, but I of course don't know this to be fact.

yeah that is so fuckin funny..... good gawd, some people have no taste.

actually no there is not. they both died doing something they believed in (both being honorable beliefs) and should be respected. no difference.

I think you may be the only one with a brain around here. Thanks.

Wow, I really apologize. I just realized I was being completely unfair. It's not your fault that you're retarded and you like to suck cock. I should have known by your post. Memnsa? Is that the retarded version of Mensa?

BTW.....didn't you read the FAQ that says you're not allowed to express an opinion until you've reached 100 posts. Ah, sorry, I forgot, "engrish" isn't your first language.

Why don't you go back to fisting your boyfriend faggot!

i was simply referring to there is a difference between her being ran over and people dragging a soldier around town that way.

did the israelis jump out and start dragging the girl through town and beating her?

That was the simple distinction between the two. sorry im too fucking high to want to fight about it on the board ,Too high to really want to explain myself and too high to give a fuck, which is why i chose to stay out of it.

but you can keep going if you want, it'll be funny.

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why would he raise the blade if he's trying to shift the soil in front of him? the reports said that he ran over her blade lowered, and reversed over her blade lowered - if the blade was raised she could have slipped under it and out of harms way. I too have operated heavy machinery like bulldozers and back-hoes, although not in a professional sense (my father was a plumber and owned heavy equipment). I find it a little hard to believe it wasn't done intentionally (knowing it would be impossible to prove otherwise), although not impossible of course. If you bulldoze houses with people inside them, I don't see why you wouldn't swat down a protestor thats annoying you if you could get away with it. There were other protestors there that he would have been able to see motioning when she was in trouble.. eh.. anyways.. it is kinda useless conjecture getting this far into it as neither of us knows. For arguments sake however i'd teeter on the "intentional" side. The guy is a hardened army recruit in a tense situation, not your local back-hoe driver.

thats what i was explaining - to be honest I think thats what Joe was trying to say in his round-a-bout offensive way.

I'm not standing up for his tactics, so don't confuse me,
but:
person "A" posts a link to a pic of a dead woman standing up for what she believes in and getting killed and ridiculing her.
person "B" in response posts a pic of a dead soldier standing up for what he believed and being killed quoting the ridicule, to me says "see how it changes when the ridicule is changed to a different target - they both deserve respect".. of course the way joe does it resembles a sledgehammer..

Okay, so let me give you the Cliff Notes version:

Only a fraction of the aid given stays in Israel. By far the largest share remains with American defense contractors. For every billion dollars of aid to Israel creates 60,000 to 70,000 jobs in the United States.

Compared to the $2.0 billion yearly military aid to Israel, the U.S. contributes more than $130 billion(!) every year to the defense of Europe and more than $30 billion to the defense of Japan, Korea, and the Far East.

Over 300,000 U.S. troops are stationed with NATO and over 30,000 U.S. troops in the Far East. In contrast, not one single U.S. soldier needs to be stationed and put at risk in Israel. U.S. military analysts estimate that the U.S. would have to spend the equivalent of $150 billion a year in the Middle East to maintain a force equivalent to Israel?s.

Israel is the only country that has gained battlefield experience with U.S. weapons. Israel, in the light of its experience, continually modifies U.S. weapons systems. For instance, Israeli scientists have made over 200 improvements in the F-15 alone and similar improvements, mostly in avionics, in later-generation planes.

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Have a beer, get laid and watch some ESPN once and awhile.

Hmmm....let's see....tonight I had a couple of beers, had sex and caught up on March Madness......

sorrry....

I'll be the first to admit i suffer from foot in mouth disease once in a while. That's cool. I admit there is a difference in the manner the murders were carried out. Regardless - a murder is a murder.

Btw: saying you're high doesn't make me like you anymore - i haven't been able to get any for a few days :winkwink:

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Wasent she some fucking college student to... I am not college boy but when I see heavy equipment I move... Just like she should have done.... Now I belive in having belifs... don't get me wrong... but to die by bulldozer is not a smart chick... and for any of you to compair her to a fucking US military soldier for fighting for what they belive in.... well thats just foul..... go say that on a fucing marine camp..... Semper Fi..... that girl was a fuckin treehugging stupid whore... and she should have just come to my studio to get throat fucked rather than ran over..... dumb fucking whore.... it really makes me mad that you guys think that what she did was the same as in samolia.. holy shit..... thats foul... this whore was on a fucking farm asthe pics plainly show.... nothing in site but her and a fuckingbulldozer.... I would have ran her over to just for being that fucking stupid..........

SEMPER FI

I read your first partial sentence and quit. You don't deserve the fucking time. She was standing up for what she believed in and trying to help people that are fucked over on a daily basis. She died for her beliefs just like that soldier. WTF have you done? Anything? :321GFY

you don't say?

Normally I degress....but NO!!! noone has the right to kill someone - let alone a non-violent protester. I said in another thread.... it is deplorable that people believe another persons death is more tragic then another.... i'll say that in front of a marine camp at the same time you say what you just said amongst that women's family.

If she did not have sence enough to get out of the way of a damn bulldozer .. and come back to america land of the free... then thats her fault... she deserved what was comming to her.... 20 tons of metal... would you drink cynide... no because it will kill you....and anybody who has any sence would say it just like that

Right, I see your point. You can disagree with the right, but just stay out of their way. If you're dumb enough to actually try to do anything to stop them, then it's your own fault that you were murdered.

For instance, if a serial killer was about to kill your mother, and you stood in his way and got killed, then why should we feel sorry for you when you were stupid enough to get in the way of a serial killer? Ya fuckin moron!

And the grieving family of that girl shouldn't get any of our sympathy either, because they had a stupid daughter!

Is that even the same bulldozer? Look at both pics.... check out the lights and the rust spot on the blade.


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