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12-18-2015, 10:15 PM

Hello guys, sorry for my English in advance. So this is what I've been dealing with lately I'm a affiliate for quite sometimes now and never had any issue with any sponsors I worked with,
but recently some of them asking me to delete all promo videos I had or to delete channels because I'm out ranking them or I'm on page one of search engines. I even got my first DMCA with this for over xx years in this industry..

So my question is this, whats the point of opening an affiliate program if you punishing your affiliates who bring you sales by working hard on their SEO and promoting your products? I would understand if a breach of TOS would happen by doing some sketchy shit. But there not even a mention of this in the TOS..

So I'm thinking of just runing my own shit and say to all of them.
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12-18-2015, 10:19 PM

run your own shit and say to the programs.

It's not hard to get started either... don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
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12-18-2015, 10:20 PM

Hell i should get a fkn thanks instead, carrying ur brand on my back and getting ur ass to the top list lol...
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12-18-2015, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by plaster

run your own shit and say to the programs.

It's not hard to get started either... don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

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12-18-2015, 11:08 PM

I have had the same problem with the twat that runs Brycie's website. And to top it off, they dident want her promo-content on a domain with the Word "slut" in it.

50 hours of Work Down the drain, because the hobby webmaster think she is a "princess"
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12-18-2015, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by Ferus

I have had the same problem with the twat that runs Brycie's website. And to top it off, they dident want her promo-content on a domain with the Word "slut" in it.

50 hours of Work Down the drain, because the hobby webmaster think she is a "princess"

Its funny most of them like to complain and cry about big tubes giving their work for free and they barely do anything against that but they ready to jump with guns ready to blow on any excuse against legit workers... lol weird shit

I won't generalise though some are golden and they do respect your effort and ready to work and make good cash with you.
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12-18-2015, 11:29 PM

Originally posted by Focus

I heard ya bro

feel free to PM me if you want some tips. I just setup a new program recently and will share
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12-19-2015, 12:06 AM

If they no longer want YOUR traffic you can either:

1. Find a sponsor that features the same model/niche and refer said traffic to them - replacing videos/banners.

2. Find a competitor similar model/niche and refer said traffic to them - replacing videos/banners.

3. Really Pissed? Replace videos with your own videos discouraging people from joining said sponsor.

In all cases keep titles/descriptions so you don't loose YOUR traffic!.

Under no circumstances take the complete page down as you'll just be handing all your hard work and traffic to them on a plate for free.

ALSO NAME THE SPONSOR SO OTHER AFFILIATES DON'T SUFFER THE SAME MISFORTUNE.

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12-19-2015, 12:40 AM

very simple. i always asks if they meant it for real and if yes, i simply say fuck off dicks, if you cannot work better on your seo and you are replacing your own fault with fucking with affiliates, i simply find new similar sponsor, keep the serps or work on them even harder to be on top for most of their keywords, and simply direct traffic with their keywords to other sponsor. then i say, hello, now hope you are happy, you have no traffic from me from your keywords, so if that is what you wanted, congrats, if you wanted something else, go fuck yourself i have wasted enough time because of you dick already ... some people are idiots, and it is the worst if idiot is wasting your time and knowhow and hard work ... have luck with your business and have a nice weekend everyone

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12-19-2015, 01:43 AM

Affiliates who discover issues with paysite brands and online reputation should be rewarded highly and be paid for their consulting services. Punishing them achieves nothing.

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12-19-2015, 05:36 AM

I've been running affiliate programs since 2001 and simply put:

Affiliates Are Gods

It blows me away when program owners try to fuck with their affiliates. Affiliates are literally the hand that feeds you! They give you food, they give you water, they give you wealth and life itself! . They are essentially gods that can giveth or taketh away.

Whenever I'm building products, sites, or programs I always think first of how to please the gods.

Worshipping the affiliate gods is easy:

Covenant 1: always always always pay on time
Covenant 2: make your affiliates more money and you'll make more money (gods love to reward good service)
Covenant 3: if affiliates aren't 80% of your business, you're doing it wrong and have the chance to exponentially grow your favor and business by doing it right

No program can afford to hire 500 marketing specialists to work on growing their site directly. They can, however, pray to 500 marketing gods (or more) and do everything in their power to keep those gods happy and they will be rewarded.

Can you tell I firmly believe in the affiliate model?

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12-19-2015, 05:52 AM

Can you tell I firmly believe in the affiliate model?

Nah, not really. j/k
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12-19-2015, 07:43 AM

What program owners will let you do depends greatly on how many sales you send them.

I received a take down notice a while back for a picture I was using in a blog post about a paysite. I took the picture down along with all links to their program. But I probably only ever sent them a handful of sales, whereas others I sent regular sales to were perfectly happy to get those sales from banners I'd made out of their picture content, or from domains I'd registered with their brand names in them.

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12-19-2015, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by TeenCat

very simple. i always asks if they meant it for real and if yes, i simply say fuck off dicks, if you cannot work better on your seo and you are replacing your own fault with fucking with affiliates, i simply find new similar sponsor, keep the serps or work on them even harder to be on top for most of their keywords, and simply direct traffic with their keywords to other sponsor. then i say, hello, now hope you are happy, you have no traffic from me from your keywords, so if that is what you wanted, congrats, if you wanted something else, go fuck yourself i have wasted enough time because of you dick already ... some people are idiots, and it is the worst if idiot is wasting your time and knowhow and hard work ... have luck with your business and have a nice weekend everyone

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12-19-2015, 08:12 AM

The only time where I've seen it as a problem is when a program cries about using sitenameXX.tld where the EMD is in the domain or sitename.tld on another tld. (Mindgeek recently sent out some emails....)

I don't promote those anymore, no point in risking my money being forfeited down the road because someone picked out one thing that I'm doing that they don't like.

Other than that, they can fuck themselves, they should think "Hey, we suck at SEO, let's fix it" instead of being lazy and just taking away the money from hard earned webmasters, usually after making a decent amount of money right before the payments are cut or doing the same thing but after a TOS change that no one read or knew about..

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12-19-2015, 08:12 AM

I am a Program Owner. In fact, I run THREE Affiliate Programs (see sig) and there's a fourth coming in 2016.

So Affiliates: send me sales and you can do pretty much whatever the fuck you want to do. In fact, I will help you in any way I can.

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12-19-2015, 08:13 AM

Originally posted by The Porn Nerd

I am a Program Owner. In fact, I run THREE Affiliate Programs (see sig) and there's a fourth coming in 2016.

So Affiliates: send me sales and you can do pretty much whatever the fuck you want to do. In fact, I will help you in any way I can.

Happy Holidays to everyone!!

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12-19-2015, 08:18 AM

Originally posted by BoomBoomBenoit

Can you tell I firmly believe in the affiliate model?

Well said and a lot of other good advice from others you can implement here.

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12-19-2015, 12:11 PM

Yeah dude, fuck all of them and do your own shit..Their ungrateful bastards. Good riddance.
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12-19-2015, 12:35 PM

Hey bitches! Thanks for all the feedbacks :D glad to see I'm not the only one thinking this way. Have a freaking nice Holidays guys wishes u all the best. Health, Pussies, Cocks, Money and Love!
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12-19-2015, 01:40 PM

I have had this a number of times.

Once, with STFUcash.com - I was lucky enough to be on the first page of google with one of their linking codes.

They banned my account and told me i was spamming - Even tho i only ever put up 1 single link on my link list. I asked for proof of this spamming, nothing.

You could also see in my stats all my traffic was from google, they couldn't explain how this was spamming.

They just didn't want to pay me for the sales, simple as. Scum bags.

On the other hand the same thing happened with Twistyscash - I contacted them and the affiliate person said they were glad i had the first page of google spot. Made about 5 or 600 and then the spot dropped naturally. They were good about it.

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12-19-2015, 01:45 PM

Originally posted by Colmike7

Promote programs like this instead ^

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12-19-2015, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by BoomBoomBenoit

I've been running affiliate programs since 2001 and simply put:

Affiliates Are Gods

It blows me away when program owners try to fuck with their affiliates. Affiliates are literally the hand that feeds you! They give you food, they give you water, they give you wealth and life itself! . They are essentially gods that can giveth or taketh away.

Whenever I'm building products, sites, or programs I always think first of how to please the gods.

Worshipping the affiliate gods is easy:

Covenant 1: always always always pay on time
Covenant 2: make your affiliates more money and you'll make more money (gods love to reward good service)
Covenant 3: if affiliates aren't 80% of your business, you're doing it wrong and have the chance to exponentially grow your favor and business by doing it right

No program can afford to hire 500 marketing specialists to work on growing their site directly. They can, however, pray to 500 marketing gods (or more) and do everything in their power to keep those gods happy and they will be rewarded.

Can you tell I firmly believe in the affiliate model?

I agree with you 100%

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12-19-2015, 01:54 PM

BTW what program is this?

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12-19-2015, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by kazbalah

BTW what program is this?

I got my first one with Erito, but not hard feelings they can keep their promo vids. But now i got a DMCA i had been dealing with by Randazza Legal Group telling me we sent a dmca because you were on the top page here the note which made me giggle.

Hi Roman,

The channel itself is compliant and can stay up. Weâ??ve only removed the Google search index link to it, since it was ranking in the top search results for â??bang bus.â? No further action is required on your part. If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to let us know.

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Which of course never answer me back. Oh well RIP promo
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12-19-2015, 02:38 PM

Im one of those who can't sit and play cards if I'm not number 1 in whatever I do. Not to brag but that's the kind of person I am, now when I get this kind of DMCA from google team I feel fkn disrespected while I gave time, effort and money to make their promo look good and shit without never giving full videos and crap like that. Anyways enough throwing flames on this matter just gotta chill with the ones who actually wanna work and respect their affiliates.
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12-19-2015, 02:50 PM

Unfortunately for some, Google allows DMCA notices to be given by sites who are being outranked for brand or domain name by someone else. It is what it is. Just make sure you rank right after the brand.

As for Erito, total fucktard system they have going on. Their DMCA people, Canadians based in Asia, called Skywalker Digital, lol, carpet bomb everyone, sometimes themselves.

Originally posted by Focus

I got my first one with Erito, but not hard feelings they can keep their promo vids. But now i got a DMCA i had been dealing with by Randazza Legal Group telling me we sent a dmca because you were on the top page here the note which made me giggle.

Hi Roman,

The channel itself is compliant and can stay up. Weâ??ve only removed the Google search index link to it, since it was ranking in the top search results for â??bang bus.â? No further action is required on your part. If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to let us know.

Best regards,
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Which of course never answer me back. Oh well RIP promo
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12-19-2015, 02:58 PM

Originally posted by JuicyBunny

Unfortunately for some, Google allows DMCA notices to be given by sites who are being outranked for brand or domain name by someone else. It is what it is. Just make sure you rank right after the brand.

As for Erito, total fucktard system they have going on. Their DMCA people, Canadians based in Asia, called Skywalker Digital, lol, carpet bomb everyone, sometimes themselves.

I understand what you are saying, the channel was 5th on page 1. On Erito note, Skywalker Digital? Like really ? lol
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12-19-2015, 03:08 PM

Originally posted by Focus

I understand what you are saying, the channel was 5th on page 1. On Erito note, Skywalker Digital? Like really ? lol

LOL. Yeah, I saw that and thought they must be fucking looners. I never got a good vibe from Erito site or MG. You're better off working with people who love your effort. Its tough these days and for them to pull spazz moves like that on you...fuck em.
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12-19-2015, 03:28 PM

My SEO sucks. I'm sure you could outrank me easy on some major terms. And I would welcome it. Why?

SALES SALES SALES.

Everything else is just talk. Good luck with your efforts.

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12-19-2015, 03:41 PM

If they don't want your traffic.... Dump them and take your traffic somewhere else.

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12-19-2015, 06:13 PM

We will happily take your traffic and sales.

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12-21-2015, 12:44 AM

Dump them. If it's "model specific keyword", than the volume of search is probably low (especially if you where able to outrank them).

As Axeman wrote, there are others that will convert your traffic into $$$.

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12-21-2015, 09:01 AM

We work as close as we can with our affiliates and will make custom tools for them. Upload custom video clips when they prove they have the traffic for it that brings in sales.

It never makes me happy to see an affiliate out ranking me in the SE's but it shows me Im doing something wrong that the affiliate has figured out and I NEED to. But hell a sale is a sale and I still get a cut from his.

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12-21-2015, 09:34 AM

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12-21-2015, 10:02 AM

i know a sponsor that does this. not saying which one.

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12-21-2015, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by brassmonkey

i know a sponsor that does this. not saying which one.

I used to do it a lot, works really well..
Most sponsors "cough, Mindgeek" don't like it and threaten to take domains and earnings, so I'm more careful these days when I do it..

Also, there are a lot of reasons why these kinds of sites can rank higher than the original site that's being promoted and reasons why the main site won't be able to out rank those feeders/EMDs. Just let affiliates do it, if it hurts sales then post stats then we'll talk.

Sales only encourage an affiliate to work harder and promote more, too, so that 30%-50% per sale that's being lost goes right back into more free promotion work.

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12-21-2015, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by Colmike7

I used to do it a lot, works really well..
Most sponsors "cough, Mindgeek" don't like it and threaten to take domains and earnings, so I'm more careful these days when I do it..

Also, there are a lot of reasons why these kinds of sites can rank higher than the original site that's being promoted and reasons why the main site won't be able to out rank those feeders/EMDs. Just let affiliates do it, if it hurts sales then post stats then we'll talk.

Sales only encourage an affiliate to work harder and promote more, too, so that 30%-50% per sale that's being lost goes right back into more free promotion work.

I would understand if you had their names at the very least in your domain ex: brazzerplus.com or something like that but when you only working on your own domain thats pushing it. Finally there a lot of sponsors out there as well who dont do these techniques so its great and im going to give more chance to new ones hehe. But from now on you can def be sure ill be asking this before even starting doing some work
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12-21-2015, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by brassmonkey

i know a sponsor that does this. not saying which one.

Ok, whats the point of your post? 50,434? congratz btw
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12-21-2015, 05:12 PM

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12-21-2015, 06:10 PM

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12-21-2015, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by $money$

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12-22-2015, 06:52 AM

Hey if you can OUT RANK us over at soloslutcash.com I will bump up your payout % send or do what ever you can as long as it is legal, and I promise you will be very happy.

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12-22-2015, 06:59 AM

Originally posted by Va2k

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