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dyna mo 12-14-2015 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20667414)
Once again, you see only back and white.. You can't comprehend that they are supporting Graham and Cheney because they are some of the few willing to call Trump for what he is on the GOP side of the aisle.. This in your mind equals that they also must support Cheney and Graham on the other stupid shit they say or do..

This is the problem with you polarized right weenies.. You can't understand the concept of agreeing with something someone says while also disagreeing with their broader stance.

Much the same as I can agree largely with someone's stance but also disagree with things they say..

The right wing is so fucking polarized all you guys can think is rah rah team..no matter what..and boo boo the other guys.. No matter what.. This is why the Republican voter base is now only 22% of registered voters, because people are tired of the right wing bullshit.

Gobbledygook. And I've mentioned several times I voted for BO both times and Bernie Sanders is my guy this cycle.

For you, no troll award.

Sednub997 12-14-2015 09:07 AM

I cant see his losing.We shell see

Milfer 12-14-2015 09:10 AM

someday he will make a good stand up comedian, or wait, is he already?

mOrrI 12-14-2015 09:14 AM

Its a new kind of reality show :)

TRUE POLITICS

VRPdommy 12-14-2015 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20667138)
if you look at what he's doing objectively, having never even run for office before, to be able to insult massive swaths of the people, enrage both his opposition & the PC libtard media into a frenzy, & yet dominates the polls.

he has studied the people, knows what they want, & he gives it to them. no fear. Thats it.

genius. :)

He has run before.... As a Democrat.

As far as who he is insulting to make a name for himself, I find he is doing just what the republicans have been doing for years, he is just better at it.
Exemplifying peoples prejudgements they are afraid to say.
He never talked this way when he ran as a dem. Go back and look.

While in Rome... Would you do as the Romans ?... Maybe, but you act as Spartacus if you want to go anywhere !

Robbie 12-14-2015 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 20667851)
He has run before.... As a democrat

No he didn't. He used to be a Democrat as a citizen. He has never ran for President before. You are spreading misinformation.

Paul Markham 12-14-2015 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by naughtymedia (Post 20667588)
*edited for typos*



I think that UKIP did put the fear into politicians. UKIP may not have gained a lot of seats, but they did take away a lot of the votes from some of the other parties. They also made the main parties reconsider some of their policies on immigration and the EU, which all of a sudden apparently had been in the pipeline all along, they just weren't mentioned. As if!

What amazes me though is how a party which is the third in number of votes only manages to get 1 seat whereas the SNP with only 40% of those votes manages to get 56 seats.

The left recently got wiped out in France as the left tactically voted for the right. This will have to happen in the UK if UKIP keep gaining ground.

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But getting back to Trump, a lot of politicians and media are up in arms about the stuff he says calling him a liar, a bigot, racist, ... but what they don't seem to realise is that he says the stuff that a lot of people in middle america are thinking but are afraid to say out loud for fear of reprisals.

When Trump said that certain areas in London are no-go areas for police everybody was quick to call him a liar and say it wasn't true.

Those people who denounce him seem to have miraculously "forgotten" how police were advised in November last year by the police federation not to travel to work in uniform in certain areas because of risk of attacks.

Or how the chief of constabulary raised the issue that certain areas in the midlands are no go areas for police because the communities police themselves and don't want police around.

Or the incidents in London with the "Muslim patrol" where 3 guys were jailed because they carried out assaults on people because they were enforcing sharia law in the area.

And lets not forget the horrendous abuse in Rochdale of more than 1,400 children where the police were too worried to investigate in case they would upset the local muslim community.

I would love to see one of the Youtube "stars" to make a video of them walking around areas of east london, manchester, birmingham or bradford in a police uniform and post the reactions they get.
I don't here Trump talking about the type of Mexicans or Muslims, he labels them all as a race.

And yes the UK is far too scared of being labelled racists. That is changing, just not fast enough.

What I'm trying to impress on some here is that whatever he or anyone else promises in this race. Has two hurdles to get over. Thier financial backers and all the other politicians.

Robbie 12-14-2015 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20667919)
I don't here Trump talking about the type of Mexicans or Muslims, he labels them all as a race.

He clearly spoke about ILLEGAL immigrants when he referenced Mexicans in a negative way.

As for Muslims, he is referring to Muslims entering the U.S. via Visa's to travel. He wants to temporarily stop that while the govt. looks at better ways of vetting them to make sure they aren't terrorists.
Unfortunately for Muslims...it IS Muslim terrorists who have declared "jihad" worldwide.

romeo22 12-14-2015 10:40 AM

As the stats shows he will be the next Us president

epitome 12-14-2015 10:49 AM

The only thing that makes his different from the other Republican candidates is he outright says something while they dance around it and also use coded language.

It doesn't take a genius to act like an idiot.

He has dumbed himself down to appeal to his demographic. His speech patterns are a great example. His thing is validating the views of the intolerant rednecks littering Ameica. His competitors do the same thing, they're just more subtle, which is why they trail him in polls. It is not novel; Bush did the same. If elected, he will just as successful as Bush was: not at all.

The sad part? How short people's memories are. That applies to the folks rabid over both Trump and Hillary.

Paul Markham 12-14-2015 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20667945)
He clearly spoke about ILLEGAL immigrants when he referenced Mexicans in a negative way.

As for Muslims, he is referring to Muslims entering the U.S. via Visa's to travel. He wants to temporarily stop that while the govt. looks at better ways of vetting them to make sure they aren't terrorists.
Unfortunately for Muslims...it IS Muslim terrorists who have declared "jihad" worldwide.

Can he pass the laws required without asking anyone else?

I agree with you about immigration, the EU has gone insane by allowing free passage and benefits for EU citizens and allowing all the migrants from the Third World in, to wander around Europe.

The problem for him in the US is like here, getting it through Government.

Robbie 12-14-2015 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20667963)
Can he pass the laws required without asking anyone else?

I'm not an expert, but as I understand it the President can indeed call for a travel ban by executive order.
President Jimmy Carter did it with Iran during the hostage crisis.

I think the State Dept. can do it as well (under the auspices of the President). For instance U.S. citizens weren't "allowed" to travel to Cuba all these years and vice-versa.

But "no" the President can not "pass laws" all by himself (as Pres. Obama has found out).

Trump would be able to do the travel ban (but he would have to make a list of countries...it would still be a travel ban on Muslims, but worded differently).

But only Congress can pass bills.
And then the President signs them and they become the law.

One of the good things, in my opinion, of Obama's presidency has been that the govt. hasn't been able to pass as many new laws because of gridlock.

We have so many federal laws that you can't even find an exact number when you google it. Apparently nobody even knows!

Go ahead...google up the number of federal laws in the U.S. , there are so many that there is no definitive answer. lol

I'm happy when Congress is NOT making new laws. How many fucking laws do people really need? It's ridiculous.

seeandsee 12-14-2015 11:11 AM

He will never run for president election for god sake

Joshua G 12-14-2015 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by epitome (Post 20667962)
The only thing that makes his different from the other Republican candidates is he outright says something while they dance around it and also use coded language.

It doesn't take a genius to act like an idiot.

i believe your observation on this matter is not accurate. for example, no other republican proposes a trade war with china. He also opposes cutting medicare. No other republican proposed a blanket ban of all muslims, & they all denounced his position even though their own are light weight versions of the same. his opponents are hypocrites & cowards, while he alone has the courage to take unpopular positions to solve a problem.

He is running AGAINST the establishment of the party. the club for growth, the kochs, hate him. this unprincipled boorish asshole simply decides to run as a republican, & literally sucks the air out of 13 other candidates, no wonder the establishment loathes him. He has to threaten to run as in independent in order to prevent them from hijacking the convention.

All of this makes him different from the other republican candidates, & why is leading republican polls by 20 points. Why can't left of center thinkers see his genius? too fogged out by PC i presume.

:)

VRPdommy 12-14-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20667884)
No he didn't. He used to be a Democrat as a citizen. He has never ran for President before. You are spreading misinformation.

He has flirted with it for 3 election cycles.
In the fall of 1999, Trump quit the Republican Party ?? ??I really believe the Republicans are just too crazy right,? was his quote.
So he was going to run as a Independent but chose not to. ??He??s a Hitler lover, I guess he??s an anti-Semite,? he said of Independent Pat Buchanan on Meet the Press. ??He doesn??t like the blacks, he doesn??t like the gays.?

If you can't beat them... join them... seems to be his thinking.

VRPdommy 12-14-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20668056)
i believe your observation on this matter is not accurate. for example, No other republican proposed a blanket ban of all muslims, & they all denounced his position even though their own are light weight versions of the same.
:)

I believe Jeb Bush proposed saving the Christians (and nobody else) just before Trumps upsetting words.

Use different words and nobody cares but you get little/no attention for it.

Right now they are looking for anything to bash him with. Including playing with poll numbers.
He is upsetting the bought and paid for machine. Nobody owns him (yet).

Trump only exemplifies modern politics in a non-apologetic way.

If he is still leading after the votes, the party will find a way to replace him with John Kasich at the convention because that is what the quite hidden money wants.

dyna mo 12-14-2015 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20667919)
The left recently got wiped out in France as the left tactically voted for the right. This will have to happen in the UK if UKIP keep gaining ground.

you have it exactly opposite of reality:::::::


French National Front defeated in bid to win regional vote - BBC News

France's far-right National Front (FN) has failed to win a single region in the second round of municipal polls.

Robbie 12-14-2015 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 20668155)
He has flirted with it for 3 election cycles.

But that's not what you said. You said:

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Originally Posted by VRPdommy (Post 20667851)
He has run before.... As a Democrat.


I have "flirted" with fucking Jennifer Anniston...but I never have and never will ever even get the chance. lol

You're saying things that aren't true. Just like the media...

Paul Markham 12-14-2015 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 20667982)
I'm not an expert, but as I understand it the President can indeed call for a travel ban by executive order.
President Jimmy Carter did it with Iran during the hostage crisis.

I think the State Dept. can do it as well (under the auspices of the President). For instance U.S. citizens weren't "allowed" to travel to Cuba all these years and vice-versa.

But "no" the President can not "pass laws" all by himself (as Pres. Obama has found out).

Trump would be able to do the travel ban (but he would have to make a list of countries...it would still be a travel ban on Muslims, but worded differently).

But only Congress can pass bills.
And then the President signs them and they become the law.

One of the good things, in my opinion, of Obama's presidency has been that the govt. hasn't been able to pass as many new laws because of gridlock.

We have so many federal laws that you can't even find an exact number when you google it. Apparently nobody even knows!

Go ahead...google up the number of federal laws in the U.S. , there are so many that there is no definitive answer. lol

I'm happy when Congress is NOT making new laws. How many fucking laws do people really need? It's ridiculous.

OK. Now all he has to do is watch as Congress blocks him over and over again. If their backers disagree.

As for too many laws, no idea about that. Bureaucrats like to make laws, one Obama failed to make was to get health care out of the grip of big business. Limiting people on no-fly lists and "known to the security services" from being able to buy guns.

Robbie 12-14-2015 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 20668338)
OK. Now all he has to do is watch as Congress blocks him over and over again. If their backers disagree.

Yes, just like all President's do.

And some President's (G.W. Bush, Clinton, Reagan, etc.) figure out ways to negotiate with Congress and get deals done with them.
Others (like Obama, Bush Sr., Carter) don't have that particular skill set.

Trump does indeed have that skill set. More so than any politician in Washington. He lives in a world of tough negotiations, and thrives in it.

When you step back and look at it with no emotion or political bias in either direction...Trump appears to have all the tools to work with Congress despite the rhetoric being tossed around by the Republicans and Democrats during the election season.

Paul Markham 12-14-2015 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20668305)
you have it exactly opposite of reality:::::::


French National Front defeated in bid to win regional vote - BBC News

France's far-right National Front (FN) has failed to win a single region in the second round of municipal polls.

How many seats did the Left win?

The problem is the centre right are going to have to do more to limit who enters France, or they will lose more voters to the party that does.

Joshua G 01-20-2017 03:52 AM

i was right. dumb libs wrong.

:1orglaugh


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