What Trump REALLY said vs. What the Media is TELLING us he said.

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  • L-Pink
    working on my tan
    • Mar 2005
    • 39151

    #51
    50 votes for Trump !!!

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    • Robbie
      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
      • Aug 2002
      • 20960

      #52
      Originally posted by dyna mo
      unfortunately for that panel, it doesn't work that way. the delegate election process can boil down to local districts within states, there's virtually no way the RNC can set delegate election guidelines at the national level
      They said on the panel that they would do it on the floor of the Republican Convention when delegates are supposed to be pledged.
      -Robbie
      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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      • dyna mo
        just a fucking jerk
        • Dec 2008
        • 68184

        #53
        Originally posted by Robbie
        They said on the panel that they would do it on the floor of the Republican Convention when delegates are supposed to be pledged.
        outrageous to claim that's how the party would handle it.

        i'm no fan of the RNC, but i find that to be a lot of conjecture. the onus is on the delegate to vote the way of his/her district, not to toe the RNC line. that panel is assuming 100s of delegates would flip flop after getting strongarmed by the party leaders at pledge time.

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        • Barry-xlovecam
          It's 42
          • Jun 2010
          • 18083

          #54
          Originally posted by Robbie
          The law already exists since 1952. There would be no need to pass a law that is already there.

          And it would only be a TEMPORARY thing to allow the govt. to get serious about this problem.

          Many people feel that the Obama Administration hasn't taken this seriously enough ("Isis is the JV team", won't even say "Islamic Terrorists", too much political correctness, etc.)

          I think the argument is that if Trump took office he is much tougher than Obama and would put a moratorium in place temporarily and get the security system up to speed and then open it up again.
          Don't quote one line of my post and evade answering the questions posed with rhetoric.

          When I visited the UK, France, The Netherlands, Greece, Czech Republic, Hungary, Romania and Canada the customs officer didn't require I pass some religious test to be granted a visa. Did you ever consider there might be reciprocation? Maybe, you don't travel or see what the USA looks like to the rest of the world or even give a shit.

          The McCarran-Walter Act, 1952 makes no stipulation for temporary or permanent exclusion of visa applicants by religious ''class''.

          Code:
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          |grep --color=always  -in "religious\|faith\|worship"|more
          [COLOR="YellowGreen"]123[/COLOR]:(D) an alien crewman serving in good [COLOR="Red"]faith[/COLOR] 
          as such in any capacity required for
          [COLOR="YellowGreen"]232[/COLOR]:carrying on the vocation of minister of a [COLOR="Red"]relig[/COLOR]
          [COLOR="Red"]ious[/COLOR] denomination, and whose
          [COLOR="YellowGreen"]233[/COLOR]:services are needed by such [COLOR="Red"]religious[/COLOR] denom
          ination having a bona fide
          [COLOR="YellowGreen"]237[/COLOR]:of the United States Government abroad, and who has perf
          ormed [COLOR="Red"]faithful[/COLOR] service
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          aith[/COLOR] and has a substantial
          barry@deathstar8:~/Documents/meme-urls$
          American History Documents II
          U.S. Immigration Legislation: 1952 Immigration and Nationality Act (McCarran-Walter Act)
          Spare me the bullshit pleaseeeee ...

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          • Rochard
            Jägermeister Test Pilot
            • Dec 2001
            • 75733

            #55
            Originally posted by Rob
            Muslims are 100% at fault for terrorist actions. Name me one single non-Muslim jihadist that has committed a terrorist act. Ever. You can't. Guns aren't to blame for mass shootings, the people pulling the trigger is. The last time I checked, a gun didn't get hopped up on meds, walk into a mall, and start shooting people. Guns are inanimate objects that require human interaction. Muslims, aka Islam is a belief system that is a virus, moving from one host to another with it's only purpose is wreaking havoc on the host system. Name one beneficial thing Muslims have done for the world? I mean in the entire history of Islam, name one thing other than maybe the Eastern Architecture of the Ottoman Empire, and even that is ugly and gaudy.

            Following YOUR logic, we should temporarily stop all car sales to investigate why so many people die from accidents. We should ban prescription drugs to investigate why there are so many overdoses and cases of addiction. We should ban alcohol to investigate why so many people drive while drinking. We should ban stoves, lighters, gasoline, matches, or anything else that could possibly cause a fire until we investigate why all these wildfires occur, and why so many people die in house fires or arson? Oh, and ban deep fryers until we can investigate why so many people blow themselves up trying to deep fry them.

            See how ridiculous that sounds?
            I agree. The problem isn't Muslims, the problem is terrorists.

            Timothy McVeigh was a US Vet and killed nearly two hundred people. Does this mean we should not allow US Vets back into the United States? What about that guy who shot up that school? Should we start denying Christians permission to enter the country because they might shoot up schools? About the teenagers in at the Columbine shooting - should we stop allowing teenagers into the country?
            Herschel Savage
            Brooklyn, NY

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            • JJ Gold
              Confirmed User
              • Aug 2004
              • 1969

              #56
              If Trump has no shot of beating Hillary then Democrats should vote for him in Open Primaries.

              Everyone..from MSNBC to Fox News to our own resident Braintrust of **********+Crockett is completely freaked out because they know Trump is real and they know Trump can win.

              Enjoy the show. It's just getting started.

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              • bronco67
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Dec 2006
                • 29032

                #57
                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                Then why are the democrats so afraid of him?



                I heard that, going to get interesting



                Under President Obama, Democrats have lost 900+ state legislature seats, 12 governors, 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats.

                So I wouldn't hold your breathe princess!
                Democrats aren't afraid of him.

                I would LOVE to see Trump make it all the way to the end, just for the entertainment value alone -- but it's not going to happen. Do you understand that intelligent people are in no way threatened by a blowhard demagogue who spews fear baiting, non-factual nonsense? He's a fucking joke, and anyone who likes him is also a joke.

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                • Vendzilla
                  Biker Gnome
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23200

                  #58
                  Originally posted by bronco67
                  Democrats aren't afraid of him.

                  I would LOVE to see Trump make it all the way to the end, just for the entertainment value alone -- but it's not going to happen. Do you understand that intelligent people are in no way threatened by a blowhard demagogue who spews fear baiting, non-factual nonsense? He's a fucking joke, and anyone who likes him is also a joke.
                  LOL, you know intelligent people?

                  If he wasn't a threat, Obama , Hillary and Bernie wouldn't bring him up. I learned this when I asked the COO of Coca Cola why they never bashed Pepsi. The answer made sense, why acknowledge number 2?

                  So yes, democrats are afraid of him, they don't know how to attack a candidate that when every time they do, his numbers get better!
                  Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                  think about that

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                  • RandyRandy
                    Clips still sell!
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1708

                    #59
                    Originally posted by Rochard

                    Keeping in mind that the man who did this was an American citizen born in the United States... .. My wife is Italian and Lebanese. She was born in the United States.
                    So if your wife was born in the United States (like Trump), wouldn't that make her a US citizen? With Italian and Lebanese heritage?

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                    • Robbie
                      Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 20960

                      #60
                      Originally posted by bronco67
                      Democrats aren't afraid of him.

                      I would LOVE to see Trump make it all the way to the end, just for the entertainment value alone -- but it's not going to happen. Do you understand that intelligent people are in no way threatened by a blowhard demagogue who spews fear baiting, non-factual nonsense? He's a fucking joke, and anyone who likes him is also a joke.
                      Let me repeat this again since you might not have caught it the first time:

                      MSNBC (you know the VERY liberal news channel) reported yesterday that the majority of Trump's supporters are MODERATES.

                      By the way, the tone of your posts make YOU sound like someone who is a "blowhard demagogue spewing fear baiting, non-factual nonsense."

                      Just saying, your posts (as usual) have a very bitter and angry tone to them. Calm down and discuss things a bit. No need to get all personal with people about it.

                      And by the way...nobody ever said that normal people are threatened by Trump in any way at all. Why would they be?

                      The folks who are threatened by Trump are the big campaign donors who own all of the other candidates, the DNC and the RNC, and the media who are bought and paid for.
                      -Robbie
                      ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                      • crockett
                        in a van by the river
                        • May 2003
                        • 76818

                        #61
                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        pure rhetoric. even the National Abortion Federation considers it a civil rights matter
                        Planned Parenthood openly called it a terrorist attack.. You are a fool if you think otherwise..
                        In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                        • Rob
                          I'm a great bowler.
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 13310

                          #62
                          Originally posted by Robbie
                          The folks who are threatened by Trump are the big campaign donors who own all of the other candidates, the DNC and the RNC, and the media who are bought and paid for.
                          Bingo! Super donors have had politicians in their pockets for so long they wouldn't know how to act if/when someone who can't be bought took over. God forbid they actually have to start being accountable.

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                          • crockett
                            in a van by the river
                            • May 2003
                            • 76818

                            #63
                            Originally posted by fitzmulti
                            Sorry if this was already discussed in this thread (I didn't read the whole thread)...

                            THe one thing that is pissing me off is - seeing all of these 'headlines' that "TRUMP THREATENS TO RUN AS AN INDEPENDENT" {or similar things}...
                            He did NOT do that, nothing 'threatening' not even close...
                            ~~~~~~

                            He said an independent run was "highly unlikely" in an interview with CNN's Don Lemon on Wednesday, but declined to completely rule it out, calling the pledge a "two-way street."

                            "If they don't treat me with a certain amount of decorum and respect. If they don't treat me as the front-runner ... If the playing field is not level, then certainly all options are open," Trump said.

                            ^^ that's not a 'threat'...
                            Umm hello..yes he certainly did give them a bit of a jab in the ribs. He didn't outright say he would run, but he sure as hell insinuated it and used that as a threat..

                            https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump...389951165725:0

                            "A new poll indicates that 68% of my supporters would vote for me if I departed the GOP & ran"
                            In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                            • dyna mo
                              just a fucking jerk
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 68184

                              #64
                              Originally posted by crockett
                              Planned Parenthood openly called it a terrorist attack.. You are a fool if you think otherwise..
                              You're so full of shit it's staggering. They've gone out of their way to NOT call it a terrorist attack, simply calling it an attack.

                              https://www.plannedparenthood.org/about-us/newsroom/press-releases?ccm_paging_p

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                              • Rochard
                                Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                • Dec 2001
                                • 75733

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                Wow, so everyone that thinks differently than you is an asshole, I wonder about you sometime. Watch the polls, he has a 20 point lead and has been in the lead for the long time.

                                Currently the U6 unemployment rate is 9.9 , people are tired of the same ole thing
                                The unemployment rate is 5%. Period.
                                Herschel Savage
                                Brooklyn, NY

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                                • noshit
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Dec 2001
                                  • 1582

                                  #66
                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                  The unemployment rate is 5%. Period.
                                  You have a sixth sense

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                                  • Robbie
                                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                    • Aug 2002
                                    • 20960

                                    #67
                                    Why people insist on deflecting from the actual thread topic shows a lack of focus.

                                    Having said that, here is the reality.
                                    Labor force is at it's lowest in 38 years counting people of age to be in the labor force.

                                    The govt.'s own statistics (they changed the way they do the unemployment rate a few years ago to stop counting people who give up on finding jobs):

                                    Bureau of Labor Statistics Data



                                    The govt. is cooking the books on the unemployment rate by changing how they count it.
                                    If they were counting it the way they always did from the beginning...the rate is double or more what they are claiming. There are over 93 MILLION people unemployed. That's not a good thing.

                                    But again, this isn't a thread about the unemployment rate. It's about media bias.
                                    -Robbie
                                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                    • Paul Markham
                                      Too old to care
                                      • Jun 2001
                                      • 52942

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by Rob
                                      What Trump actually said was the U.S. should have a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the U.S. until our representatives can figure out what's going on
                                      Does that include his Muslim investors, partners, oil-rich sheiks, etc?



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                                      • bronco67
                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                        • Dec 2006
                                        • 29032

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Rochard
                                        The unemployment rate is 5%. Period.
                                        You have to remember...Republicans have their own set of facts.

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                                        • Vendzilla
                                          Biker Gnome
                                          • Mar 2004
                                          • 23200

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by bronco67
                                          You have to remember...Republicans have their own set of facts.
                                          I'm a libertarian and I posted the U6 unemployment rate was 9.9 % which is correct, if you had half a brain, you would know that's correct.


                                          Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization


                                          Such a moron!
                                          Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                          think about that

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                                          • Vendzilla
                                            Biker Gnome
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 23200

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by Rochard
                                            The unemployment rate is 5%. Period.
                                            Under Obama, in his first term with a democrat controlled congress generated 1.3 million jobs
                                            Under Obama , in his second term with a Republican controlled congress generated 7 million jobs.
                                            That's a 8.3 million total. You think this is good?

                                            The population when Obama took office in the US was 306.8 million people
                                            Right now it's 322 million

                                            so that's 15.2 million more people and only 8.2 million new jobs, where most of the growth has been in the service sector.

                                            Remember that Obama started in the middle of a recession! Which means he started in a vacuum of jobs needed!

                                            How can anyone think this is a good thing?

                                            But it does show who is better for jobs in the US, the Republicans!
                                            Carbon is not the problem, it makes up 0.041% of our atmosphere , 95% of that is from Volcanos and decomposing plants and stuff. So people in the US are responsible for 13% of the carbon in the atmosphere which 95% is not from Humans, like cars and trucks and stuff and they want to spend trillions to fix it while Solar Panel plants are powered by coal plants
                                            think about that

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                                            • 2MuchMark
                                              Mark of 2Much.net
                                              • Aug 2004
                                              • 50971

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by Vendzilla
                                              Under Obama, in his first term with a democrat controlled congress generated 1.3 million jobs
                                              Under Obama , in his second term with a Republican controlled congress generated 7 million jobs.
                                              That's a 8.3 million total. You think this is good?

                                              The population when Obama took office in the US was 306.8 million people
                                              Right now it's 322 million

                                              so that's 15.2 million more people and only 8.2 million new jobs, where most of the growth has been in the service sector.

                                              Remember that Obama started in the middle of a recession! Which means he started in a vacuum of jobs needed!

                                              How can anyone think this is a good thing?

                                              But it does show who is better for jobs in the US, the Republicans!

                                              Of those 15.2 Million more people, each of them is between 1 day and 7 years old and hopefully, do not have jobs yet.

                                              But regardless, the job creation rate could have been even higher if republicans worked with Obama instead of got in his way. Here's just a sample of what they did: Senate Republicans block Democrats' jobs bill | Reuters

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                                              • RebelR
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 1998

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                Of those 15.2 Million more people, each of them is between 1 day and 7 years old and hopefully, do not have jobs yet.

                                                But regardless, the job creation rate could have been even higher if republicans worked with Obama instead of got in his way. Here's just a sample of what they did: Senate Republicans block Democrats' jobs bill | Reuters
                                                You are making an assumption that the increase came exclusively in the form of births. You have to make allowances for immigrants
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