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pornuploader 08-27-2019 07:29 AM

Honestly this period has been one of the best periods for me, Actually my earning got doubled, The Only thing can complain about is join numbers, In this period my sign ups have gone down.

bill_musk 08-28-2019 03:31 AM

A few stats
 
Since people started sharing stats, I'll do to.


First of all, a small analysis on the conversion delay between a free signup and a paid member.
https://i.gyazo.com/31de0d8824fe11d9...57f760e14e.png

I won't share the ratio of Free to Paid members, since my source are multiple (social, media buying, popunder, own sites and seo)

Second, interesting one, the spending per capita
https://i.gyazo.com/3d08f0f9eaebe4d1...60f2ced2a0.png


And lastly, but not the least; something I worked a long time on to find the good formula and get correct data: The retention of users & spending per capital in time.
Note: m+0 is the first time the user spend (not the signup date)

https://i.gyazo.com/852a602f6f51a9c8...e3b40c6dfe.png

I didn't go after m+6, because n60, and under that number, I would say it's not worth it to draw stats. (m0 n202)

So what do I conclude about that?
  • You will make a lot of money from first time spender
  • 2/3 of these spenders will never come back
  • The spending is almost x3 per capita from m0 to m5, which means, whales plays a huge role (but who didnt know?)
  • From this data, I should be able to detect an anomaly of shaving & predict my income


Hope you find that interesting

xxify 08-28-2019 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tayax (Post 22522480)
Hope you find that interesting

Very interesting, thank you!

xxify 08-28-2019 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tayax (Post 22522480)

So your first month spenders spend $175 on average, that's amazing, do you mind sharing the median?

bill_musk 08-28-2019 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xxify (Post 22522504)
So your first month spenders spend $175 on average, that's amazing, do you mind sharing the median?


Just checked it, it's $42.97


https://i.gyazo.com/dd8bc0b55a1879ee...e52df04bcf.png


I had to put on a logarithmic scale because of the whale. But that's all my m0 spenders. Yeah, one dude burnt 7K

xxify 08-28-2019 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tayax (Post 22522586)
Yeah, one dude burnt 7K

Crazy :)

Thanks a lot man, that was really useful!

Speigelau 08-28-2019 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaver1 (Post 22522115)
I have already tested that in the past.
The free signup ratios of the cb wl was horrible.
I think most of my visitors thought they had landed on a fishing site because
the cb water marks could be seen everywhere.

Depends on how you were marketing and setting up the visitor, but there should be very little difference in free signup ratios, the watermark has a negligible effect. The difference I've found over the years between the two, comes in member retainment. Little things like the professionalism of the white label logo and how it ties to the domain could impact visitor trust.

sarettah 08-29-2019 11:12 PM

2nd half of August is turning out to be pretty nice :thumbsup

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PornGrowsOnTrees 09-03-2019 04:43 AM

Still getting almost triple the traffic this month compared to the rest of the summer. With no change in promotion. Maybe all my leads and traffic are adding up. although some people here said the same thing about the increase of traffic. Does anyone know if there was a change in stats tracking?

bill_musk 09-04-2019 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornGrowsOnTrees (Post 22524672)
Still getting almost triple the traffic this month compared to the rest of the summer. With no change in promotion. Maybe all my leads and traffic are adding up. although some people here said the same thing about the increase of traffic. Does anyone know if there was a change in stats tracking?


Well does your regs are also x3? because if not, then it's probably bot trafic

Speigelau 09-04-2019 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornGrowsOnTrees (Post 22524672)
Still getting almost triple the traffic this month compared to the rest of the summer. With no change in promotion. Maybe all my leads and traffic are adding up. although some people here said the same thing about the increase of traffic. Does anyone know if there was a change in stats tracking?

Same thing has happened to me and from my testing it looks like they are now counting hits as raws instead of uniques. They probably did some upgrade and messed this up accidentally.

ghjghj 09-04-2019 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22522753)
Little things like the professionalism of the white label logo and how it ties to the domain could impact visitor trust.

Vector logos are what works and not just for cams. Professionalism all the way. Pixels are dead.

PornGrowsOnTrees 09-04-2019 12:42 PM

Sign-ups are about the same maybe a slight increase this year.

I wish we could customize the mobile page and have custom watermarks on mobile streams...Might not be much benefit or any for them but it just makes me feel better about my main site. lol.

Did anyone mess around with the main white label mobile css or the bio view in css? I forgot to mess with any of that.

For support - the Theater mode and Full Screen look nice. I never noticed those options before. Trying to think of any feedback for that or what could be improved there.

PornGrowsOnTrees 09-04-2019 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ghjghj (Post 22525451)
Vector logos are what works and not just for cams. Professionalism all the way. Pixels are dead.

I have a Vector logo for my main white label but I think when I tried to upload it says its too big. Is there a way? Sorry if dumb question just not sure. I had to upload the logo on main in the dimensions they gave limit.

ghjghj 09-04-2019 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornGrowsOnTrees (Post 22525457)
I have a Vector logo for my main white label but I think when I tried to upload it says its too big. Is there a way? Sorry if dumb question just not sure. I had to upload the logo on main in the dimensions they gave limit.

I have yet to see a whitelabel that allows uploading an svg for a logo. Maybe they exist though.

sarettah 09-04-2019 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Speigelau (Post 22525397)
Same thing has happened to me and from my testing it looks like they are now counting hits as raws instead of uniques. They probably did some upgrade and messed this up accidentally.

I am not seeing that, either an increase or an overcounting of either raw or unique.

My tracking is running very close to what CB is reporting for me. It never matches exactly but usually runs within 10% either way. The discrepancies are usually in how they decide unique and because I don't have my tracking adjusting for server time.

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Brian mike 09-10-2019 05:14 AM

Gotta Love September and fall :wetkiss ... cha ching $$$$$$$$

cybermike 09-10-2019 06:26 AM

Make sure you guys do 2 factor authorization and have good passwords.. someone from india/russia/bangladesh all tried to log into my account :O

Brian mike 09-11-2019 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 22527591)
Make sure you guys do 2 factor authorization and have good passwords.. someone from india/russia/bangladesh all tried to log into my account :O

:thumbsup

georgeyw 09-11-2019 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 22527591)
Make sure you guys do 2 factor authorization and have good passwords.. someone from india/russia/bangladesh all tried to log into my account :O

Good advice, had similar happen to me 18+ months ago.

drexl 09-12-2019 10:32 AM

I am getting a lot of "bufferStalledError" javascript errors on my whitelabel.

Some rooms are stalling. When I go to the same room on another wl or on cb, everything is fine.

Anyone else has this problem?

Beaver1 09-12-2019 11:01 PM

Does it make sense to use the promo iframes these days.
Since shockwave is blocked by half of the browser?

Best regards

Gabi 09-13-2019 10:08 AM

nevermind

PornGrowsOnTrees 09-15-2019 05:23 AM

How is everyone doing this month? Not as good as last year 4 me. But last year this month was crazy good. Had some okay days this month though!

cybermike 09-15-2019 07:06 AM

Can't complain

Brian mike 09-15-2019 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybermike (Post 22529532)
Can't complain

+1 :thumbsup

pornuploader 09-15-2019 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PornGrowsOnTrees (Post 22529508)
How is everyone doing this month? Not as good as last year 4 me. But last year this month was crazy good. Had some okay days this month though!

It was perfect, It's been the best period that i've ever had.

Shoplifter 09-23-2019 01:45 PM

Anyone seeing any stats weirdness? My free reg stopped at the beginning at the period and now seem to be coming all at once.

GoCastaway 09-23-2019 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoplifter (Post 22533184)
Anyone seeing any stats weirdness? My free reg stopped at the beginning at the period and now seem to be coming all at once.

Strange period at the moment....

Hits go up and down, 0 regs and al days 0.00 :Oh crap

Beaver1 09-27-2019 01:31 AM

Another fucker who covered the whole sign up button:

https://en.chaturbate.com/sethandsummer_/

Are the mods blind?

heiko0o 09-29-2019 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaver1 (Post 22535038)
Another fucker who covered the whole sign up button:

https://en.chaturbate.com/sethandsummer_/

Are the mods blind?

Nice, he even abuses the wishlist in the bio for C2C requests. Chaturbate really need to get stricter with their models abusing the platform.

In other news. This period is very bad for me, anyone else?

magneto664 09-29-2019 03:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heiko0o (Post 22536013)
In other news. This period is very bad for me, anyone else?

noting bad! traffic send money earn, business as usual

Beaver1 09-29-2019 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heiko0o (Post 22536013)
In other news. This period is very bad for me, anyone else?

Our cb sales came back today.
Exactly two minutes after we exchanged cb for bc promo tools.
It looks like the guys are not interested in long business relationships!

Brian mike 09-29-2019 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaver1 (Post 22535038)
Another fucker who covered the whole sign up button:

https://en.chaturbate.com/sethandsummer_/

Are the mods blind?

They are Canadian :1orglaugh

Access denied. This room is not available to your region or gender.

AmeliaG 09-29-2019 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tayax (Post 22522480)
Since people started sharing stats, I'll do to.


First of all, a small analysis on the conversion delay between a free signup and a paid member.
https://i.gyazo.com/31de0d8824fe11d9...57f760e14e.png

I won't share the ratio of Free to Paid members, since my source are multiple (social, media buying, popunder, own sites and seo)

Second, interesting one, the spending per capita
https://i.gyazo.com/3d08f0f9eaebe4d1...60f2ced2a0.png


And lastly, but not the least; something I worked a long time on to find the good formula and get correct data: The retention of users & spending per capital in time.
Note: m+0 is the first time the user spend (not the signup date)

https://i.gyazo.com/852a602f6f51a9c8...e3b40c6dfe.png

I didn't go after m+6, because n60, and under that number, I would say it's not worth it to draw stats. (m0 n202)

So what do I conclude about that?
  • You will make a lot of money from first time spender
  • 2/3 of these spenders will never come back
  • The spending is almost x3 per capita from m0 to m5, which means, whales plays a huge role (but who didnt know?)
  • From this data, I should be able to detect an anomaly of shaving & predict my income


Hope you find that interesting


Interesting charts, but where in the Chaturbate system do you find which users spent when?

itx 09-29-2019 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaver1 (Post 22536029)
Our cb sales came back today.
Exactly two minutes after we exchanged cb for bc promo tools.
It looks like the guys are not interested in long business relationships!

I have also experienced this issue with some programs, if you stop sending traffic by "magic" the sales came back, apparently they are not interested in long-term relationships with their partners.

sarettah 09-29-2019 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AmeliaG (Post 22536126)
Interesting charts, but where in the Chaturbate system do you find which users spent when?

In the .csv dmp of transactions you have the userid, when the sale was made, when they signed up, the sale amount, the commission amount, the user country and the tracking code (if you used one).

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AllAboutCams 09-30-2019 09:02 AM

i never seem to be able to grow mine no matter how many people i sign up

Beaver1 09-30-2019 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by itx (Post 22536131)
I have also experienced this issue with some programs, if you stop sending traffic by "magic" the sales came back, apparently they are not interested in long-term relationships with their partners.

Especially not when revshare earnings of others are used to finance the own media buying.

Beaver1 09-30-2019 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllAboutCams (Post 22536511)
i never seem to be able to grow mine no matter how many people i sign up

The same here, no growing earnings at all.

bill_musk 10-02-2019 12:10 AM

Ended up with close to $3k of commission, its great.

Mohawk Steve 10-02-2019 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaver1 (Post 22536883)
Especially not when revshare earnings of others are used to finance the own media buying.

Do you have any proof of your recent slew of claims? You sure like to make wild accusations but never provide any sort of proof. I believe "Proof or Ban" is in order, as you were warned not long ago by the mods.

Klen 10-02-2019 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22537614)
Do you have any proof of your recent slew of claims? You sure like to make wild accusations but never provide any sort of proof. I believe "Proof or Ban" is in order, as you were warned not long ago by the mods.

That is right, if proof for such claim is not provided, then i have no choice but to send user to vacation.

Beaver1 10-02-2019 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22537614)
Do you have any proof of your recent slew of claims? You sure like to make wild accusations but never provide any sort of proof. I believe "Proof or Ban" is in order, as you were warned not long ago by the mods.

I am sure my account is known and if you check my stats you will see that the sales always drop if we send traffic
and return if we stop sending traffic.

And I'm not talking about one or two times in the last few years, I'm talking about dozens of times.
Always the same patterns.

And the fact that this sale
September 29 2019, 05:53",56369209,99.99,20.00,embed,"Juni 18 2018, 02:55
was credited two minutes after we have discontinued the traffic, can also be found in the statistics.
And i am sure someone from bonga can confirm that we start to send traffic at this time.


And that your media buying campaigns run throught the popup provider we use
can be confirmed from Tomasz Klekot.

Beaver1 10-02-2019 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 22537629)
That is right, if proof for such claim is not provided, then i have no choice but to send user to vacation.

Would it be possible to completely delete my account in this case?
Vacation is something for old people!

Mohawk Steve 10-02-2019 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beaver1 (Post 22537697)
I am sure my account is known and if you check my stats you will see that the sales always drop if we send traffic
and return if we stop sending traffic.

And I'm not talking about one or two times in the last few years, I'm talking about dozens of times.
Always the same patterns.

And the fact that this sale
September 29 2019, 05:53",56369209,99.99,20.00,embed,"Juni 18 2018, 02:55
was credited two minutes after we have discontinued the traffic, can also be found in the statistics.
And i am sure someone from bonga can confirm that we start to send traffic at this time.


And that your media buying campaigns run throught the popup provider we use
can be confirmed from Tomasz Klekot.

Your stats do not backup your claims.

Please explain how we're diverting funds our affiliates earn to our own media buying, which you claimed.

Beaver1 10-02-2019 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22537720)
Your stats do not backup your claims.

Its a fact that sales
September 29 2019, 05:53",56369209,99.99,20.00,embed,"Juni 18 2018, 02:55
came in straight after we stopt sending traffic.
Whats wrong on it?
The sale or that we stop sending traffic during the time?



Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22537720)
to our own media buying

Thanks for confirming your own media buying.

One more question whats the goal of your media buying?
To spend more or less than the 20% percent you pay to webmasters?

Would not it be ineffective if it cost more than the 20% paid to webmasters
and on the other side, why did you pay webmasters 20% if you are able to get
the traffic cheaper?

Mohawk Steve 10-02-2019 11:11 AM

I confirmed nothing, simply asked you to back up the claims you're making.

Beaver1 10-02-2019 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mohawk Steve (Post 22537759)
I confirmed nothing, simply asked you to back up the claims you're making.

I ask you again.
Whats wrong on it?
The sale or that we stop sending traffic during the time?
September 29 2019, 05:53",56369209,99.99,20.00,embed,"Juni 18 2018, 02:55

Beaver1 10-02-2019 11:31 AM

Sorry mods i canot provide more stats my cb account was banned a couple of minutes ago.


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