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zerovic 05-20-2024 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Irishoz (Post 23265432)
Is chaturbate still sending copy & paste replies for missing whale enquiries?

I was about to ask the same question. It looks like, they don't bother anymore.

Emil 05-20-2024 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23265350)
It is up to date as of early May (this month right now) this year. I am not sure what you want me to break out from it. The dates show when the data is from and you can see the month/year at the bottom of each graph. I show the data the way I do because that is how I have my program and spreadsheet set up. It is a simple sort of the spreadsheet for me to see whatever date ranges I want to see.

I was demonstrating the type of data that you can get from the .csv downloads. I was not trying to show how I was doing.

I am not sure why the fuck I should show you anything.

And I will post whatever the fuck I want, whenever the fuck I want to.

But anyway, here is the past years commissions. Doesn't provide any more insights except that I left the dollar amounts in there.

https://madspiders.com/images/cb_com...s_may_2024.png

That help you?

Now just :321GFY


Yeah, you're right. No hard feelings. :thumbsup

MobileVRXXX 05-22-2024 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by fuzebox (Post 23264957)
How much do you normally make per day?

200 on average

fuzebox 05-22-2024 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 23266330)
200 on average

You should look into poisson distribution theory. Your chances of having a $0 day are never 0.

Tulku 05-23-2024 10:32 AM

Anyone seeing Huge drop in hits count from yesterday?

GoCastaway 05-23-2024 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Tulku (Post 23266651)
Anyone seeing Huge drop in hits count from yesterday?

Almost 2 weeks drop...

Shoplifter 05-23-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tulku (Post 23266651)
Anyone seeing Huge drop in hits count from yesterday?

Down about 20% here and no transactions.

DBS.US 05-23-2024 01:47 PM

May 22, 2024 The only day without a sale $0.00 :disgust

LustCore 05-23-2024 03:21 PM

Bump on signups for the third day in a row. No change on spending though.

Irishoz 05-23-2024 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mopek1 (Post 23265487)
I got one. Same reply everyone gets.

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23265496)
I was about to ask the same question. It looks like, they don't bother anymore.

Thanks, won't waste my time then.

zerovic 05-24-2024 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Irishoz (Post 23266819)
Thanks, won't waste my time then.

Oh boy, I will. There is absolutely no chance that whales, who I believe have to go through a process to increase their spending limit disappear. Here's a example, someone with over 570 transactions, and $17k+ in revenue was last seen 285 days ago? The funny thing is, that this same user was returned to me 2 times already in the last 3 years, so no, I'm not ignoring these kind of things.

mopek1 05-24-2024 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23266882)
Oh boy, I will. There is absolutely no chance that whales, who I believe have to go through a process to increase their spending limit disappear. Here's a example, someone with over 570 transactions, and $17k+ in revenue was last seen 285 days ago? The funny thing is, that this same user was returned to me 2 times already in the last 3 years, so no, I'm not ignoring these kind of things.

What will you do about it? Keep bugging them?

MobileVRXXX 05-24-2024 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23266882)
Oh boy, I will. There is absolutely no chance that whales, who I believe have to go through a process to increase their spending limit disappear. Here's a example, someone with over 570 transactions, and $17k+ in revenue was last seen 285 days ago? The funny thing is, that this same user was returned to me 2 times already in the last 3 years, so no, I'm not ignoring these kind of things.

It is pretty much the same. I have someone who was returned two times.

More than 100 000$ in spending and I after he is returned to me he spends for like a month and disappears again, funny thing is that the first time they returned it, they gave me like $2400 the second time he was missing for months and gave me $18 afterwards he spent like 150$ in 45 days and disappeared again.

From my top 50 spenders 35 have been inactive for more than 90 days :D

LouiseLloyd 05-24-2024 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23266882)
Oh boy, I will. There is absolutely no chance that whales, who I believe have to go through a process to increase their spending limit disappear. Here's a example, someone with over 570 transactions, and $17k+ in revenue was last seen 285 days ago? The funny thing is, that this same user was returned to me 2 times already in the last 3 years, so no, I'm not ignoring these kind of things.

I was under the impression model's abusing the affiliate system had stopped, I don't see much these days, or am I wrong?

Okay, so excluding models been credited an existing referred user.... Let's say a whale of a few years comes across another cam site and starts using that instead, thus taking a break from CB. Then, some years later via another affiliates site/promotion efforts says to himself "I remember CB" revisits via new affiliates link and either has forgotten his old account or just decides to create a new fresh account, should the old affiliate be credited with this user?

zerovic 05-24-2024 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LouiseLloyd (Post 23266904)
I was under the impression model's abusing the affiliate system had stopped, I don't see much these days, or am I wrong?

Okay, so excluding models been credited an existing referred user.... Let's say a whale of a few years comes across another cam site and starts using that instead, thus taking a break from CB. Then, some years later via another affiliates site/promotion efforts says to himself "I remember CB" revisits via new affiliates link and either has forgotten his old account or just decides to create a new fresh account, should the old affiliate be credited with this user?

Yeah, well.. if you report that member as missing, and it turns out that the member has a new account, they will most likely return it to you, because you were the one originally referring him to cb. fair or not, we want our whales back haha

sarettah 05-24-2024 07:16 AM

Not meaning to be argumentative here, but have some comments and questions.


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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23266882)
Oh boy, I will. There is absolutely no chance that whales, who I believe have to go through a process to increase their spending limit disappear.

First, the process to increase the limit is not that hard or invasive. I have gone through the process when I buy tokens for contests, I go in and buy 10k tokens when I have a contest.

Second, the idea that whales never disappear is absurd. People die, they get girlfriends, they get married, they lose jobs, they get bored, there are literally millions of reasons why a whale might stop buying after buying for a long time.

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Here's a example, someone with over 570 transactions, and $17k+ in revenue was last seen 285 days ago? The funny thing is, that this same user was returned to me 2 times already in the last 3 years, so no, I'm not ignoring these kind of things.
I have asked before, not sure if it was you or someone else, but how do you know you have a user returned twice? When they are returned, they are not returned under the same userid, they have the new user id. I sent in 18 ids all together, of that CB said they returned 5. I have no way of identifying which 5 were returned and what userids they were returned under. I know they were not returned under the userid I sent because they accounts I sent have generally not continued buying.

So, I am curious how you know that you sent the same user twice and had it returned twice,

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Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 23266899)
It is pretty much the same. I have someone who was returned two times.

More than 100 000$ in spending and I after he is returned to me he spends for like a month and disappears again, funny thing is that the first time they returned it, they gave me like $2400 the second time he was missing for months and gave me $18 afterwards he spent like 150$ in 45 days and disappeared again.

From my top 50 spenders 35 have been inactive for more than 90 days :D

Again, same question, how do you know which user it was and what id they were returned as?

Thanks in advance.

NickBaer 05-24-2024 07:28 AM

A year ago, I earned back a month's rent from Whales who where found elsewheres.

Last week I presented a few more, but they responded to a side question, not the Whale inquiry.

Colmike9 05-24-2024 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by NickBaer (Post 23266949)
A year ago, I earned back a month's rent from Whales who where found elsewheres.

Last week I presented a few more, but they responded to a side question, not the Whale inquiry.

Maybe try the whale thing again but in a separate ticket?

NickBaer 05-24-2024 07:38 AM

A year ago, I earned back a month's rent from Whales who where found elsewheres.

Last week I presented a few more, but they responded to a side question, not the Whale inquiry.

NickBaer 05-24-2024 07:42 AM

Yes, my most recent Ticket reply did sound like AI.

sarettah 05-24-2024 07:46 AM

Continuing on the question of returned users.

Below is list of the users I inquired about. In December 2023, I sent 9 users (in yellow) that had not spent in at least a year and had spent at least $5000. CB said they returned 3 of them to me.

As you can see, they still show no sales for 2022, 2023 or 2024. So, the returned users were not returned under the same id as far as I can tell. I assume that at least some of the returned users continued buying but if they did it was under a different userid.

In February 2023, I sent another 9 users (in green). This time the criteria was that they had stopped spending sometime in 2022 (as late as Oct 2022) and that they had spent at least $5000 before disappearing. CB said they returned 2 of them.

Now in that group I do have 2 users that did buys after I sent them in (highlighted in blue). I see no way to prove that those are the 2 users that were returned. I assume, like the first batch that they were returned under a new userid.

I could dig deeper and make some swag as to which the new user ids are but I really have no way to tie them back to the original users I sent to CB to have checked.

Thus my questions regarding how you know you had the same user returned twice. Even if you only sent in one user and they said it was returned, I see no way of telling what userid it was returned as.

Again, thanks for providing anything to further elucidate the issue.

https://madspiders.com/images/returned_users.png

zerovic 05-24-2024 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23266961)
Continuing on the question of returned users.
Thus my questions regarding how you know you had the same user returned twice. Even if you only sent in one user and they said it was returned, I see no way of telling what userid it was returned as.

uum, now when i think about, that's a good one. I however believe that even tho i send em the old, user id, they are able to identify the user.. but yeah, that's a good one actually. time to go back and re analyze my stats ;)

sarettah 05-24-2024 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23266973)
uum, now when i think about, that's a good one. I however believe that even tho i send em the old, user id, they are able to identify the user.. but yeah, that's a good one actually. time to go back and re analyze my stats ;)

Yes, they can identify that the old user came back and signed up under a different affiliate/model. They can use various data for that match.

But I don't believe they change that user back to the old id. I believe they would keep the user under the new id and just switch which affiliate they belong to.

And all of that is just an educated guess based on what I see in my stats.

fuzebox 05-24-2024 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23266941)
the idea that whales never disappear is absurd. People die, they get girlfriends, they get married, they lose jobs, they get bored, there are literally millions of reasons why a whale might stop buying after buying for a long time.

:thumbsup

The idea that if you "land a whale" you are set for life with passive income is ridiculous.

mechanicvirus 05-24-2024 10:44 AM

I'll take anyones accounts off their hands that feel like they lost all their whales.

MobileVRXXX 05-28-2024 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23266941)
I have asked before, not sure if it was you or someone else, but how do you know you have a user returned twice? When they are returned, they are not returned under the same userid, they have the new user id. I sent in 18 ids all together, of that CB said they returned 5. I have no way of identifying which 5 were returned and what userids they were returned under. I know they were not returned under the userid I sent because they accounts I sent have generally not continued buying.

So, I am curious how you know that you sent the same user twice and had it returned twice,



Again, same question, how do you know which user it was and what id they were returned as?

Thanks in advance.

OK to put it simply for this particular person I know 100% that it is him cause he is from a country that I ONLY had 2 people.

One spent like 100$ in total and the other spent like 10 000k in a month.

Once he disappeared for 4 months I messaged them they gave it back and gave me like 6500$ (if I remember correctly).

Afterwards he started spending and again and in a few months disappeared again...

The same thing occurred

sarettah 05-28-2024 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 23268079)
OK to put it simply for this particular person I know 100% that it is him cause he is from a country that I ONLY had 2 people.

One spent like 100$ in total and the other spent like 10 000k in a month.

Once he disappeared for 4 months I messaged them they gave it back and gave me like 6500$ (if I remember correctly).

Afterwards he started spending and again and in a few months disappeared again...

The same thing occurred


thanks for the explanation.

pornuploader 05-28-2024 02:53 PM

Hey guys

Does Chaturbate support payouts to SegWit Bitcoin addresses? The address starts with bc1

pornuploader 05-28-2024 02:56 PM

Hey guys

Does Chaturbate support payouts to SegWit Bitcoin addresses? The address starts with bc1

xxx6live 05-28-2024 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pornuploader (Post 23268251)
Hey guys

Does Chaturbate support payouts to SegWit Bitcoin addresses? The address starts with bc1

Last time I checked there were not enough characters in the form to enter a bc1-address, only 34 I think. And bc1 is 42.

pornuploader 05-30-2024 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by xxx6live (Post 23268345)
Last time I checked there were not enough characters in the form to enter a bc1-address, only 34 I think. And bc1 is 42.



When I last checked three years ago, it was not possible to add SegWit Bitcoin addresses. I wanted to know if this feature has been added recently or not.

adultbizwork 06-01-2024 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by MobileVRXXX (Post 23268079)
OK to put it simply for this particular person I know 100% that it is him cause he is from a country that I ONLY had 2 people.

One spent like 100$ in total and the other spent like 10 000k in a month.

Once he disappeared for 4 months I messaged them they gave it back and gave me like 6500$ (if I remember correctly).

Afterwards he started spending and again and in a few months disappeared again...

The same thing occurred


How do you find out what members were stolen?

I am trying to check my stats but cant figure out how to organize the members...

What do you use Microsoft Excel, and how exactly do you list the CSV values to identify the members that stopped spending?

I am missing something here and scratching my head. Have no idea how you all do this. But reading a lot of people its like you all know how to do it.

zerovic 06-01-2024 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by adultbizwork (Post 23269478)
How do you find out what members were stolen?

I am trying to check my stats but cant figure out how to organize the members...

What do you use Microsoft Excel, and how exactly do you list the CSV values to identify the members that stopped spending?

I am missing something here and scratching my head. Have no idea how you all do this. But reading a lot of people its like you all know how to do it.

use cb-stats.com or create your own db and import the csv.. that way you can list, sort, view everything

Sloane 06-01-2024 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by adultbizwork (Post 23269478)
How do you find out what members were stolen?

I am trying to check my stats but cant figure out how to organize the members...

What do you use Microsoft Excel, and how exactly do you list the CSV values to identify the members that stopped spending?

I am missing something here and scratching my head. Have no idea how you all do this. But reading a lot of people its like you all know how to do it.

It's too late now anyway. The last 2 requests I sent to Chaturbate regarding stolen spenders were responded to with the generic copy paste message. Seems the days of them checking is over. :(

adultbizwork 06-01-2024 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23269489)
use cb-stats.com or create your own db and import the csv.. that way you can list, sort, view everything

But how do you do to get more than 10,000 values in the CSV?

Max amount of values Chaturbate CSV Transaction Log gives me is 10,000 values.

Whats the secret to get more than 10,000 values?

adultbizwork 06-01-2024 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sloane (Post 23269504)
It's too late now anyway. The last 2 requests I sent to Chaturbate regarding stolen spenders were responded to with the generic copy paste message. Seems the days of them checking is over. :(

In your case how do you find out the "stolen members" ?

You use that CB Stats url? Personally I dont feel too comfortable using a public third party script so I was looking to find out on my own.

zerovic 06-02-2024 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by adultbizwork (Post 23269663)
In your case how do you find out the "stolen members" ?

You use that CB Stats url? Personally I dont feel too comfortable using a public third party script so I was looking to find out on my own.

If I'm not wrong, you can ask the support for the full report. I'm however good with 10k lines as I don't have that many atm

feetpics 06-02-2024 06:09 AM

Has anyone received the last payment period? I have still not got my ETF and I requested it on Wednesday May 29

KrisKross 06-02-2024 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by adultbizwork (Post 23269663)
In your case how do you find out the "stolen members" ?

You use that CB Stats url? Personally I dont feel too comfortable using a public third party script so I was looking to find out on my own.

If you don't want to use CB Stats, you have to be comfortable manipulating the data on your own. The most basic way would be sort the CSV by user and then look for users who had spent for a long time and then suddenly stopped spending.

You don't know for sure that they've been stolen, though. You used to be able to send a list of users to CB who you thought may have been stolen and then they would investigate and return any commissions from that user. But they stopped doing that.

mrmister 06-02-2024 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross (Post 23269823)
If you don't want to use CB Stats, you have to be comfortable manipulating the data on your own. The most basic way would be sort the CSV by user and then look for users who had spent for a long time and then suddenly stopped spending.

You don't know for sure that they've been stolen, though. You used to be able to send a list of users to CB who you thought may have been stolen and then they would investigate and return any commissions from that user. But they stopped doing that.

When did they stop? I send in users every month and last time I did it they returned a spender to me. This was only a couple of weeks ago

KrisKross 06-02-2024 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by mrmister (Post 23269824)
When did they stop? I send in users every month and last time I did it they returned a spender to me. This was only a couple of weeks ago

Interesting. I'm just going based on the reports of others here in the thread. The last time I did it was July 2023. You're the first in a while to say they've had spenders returned.

adultbizwork 06-02-2024 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KrisKross (Post 23269823)
If you don't want to use CB Stats, you have to be comfortable manipulating the data on your own. The most basic way would be sort the CSV by user and then look for users who had spent for a long time and then suddenly stopped spending.

You don't know for sure that they've been stolen, though. You used to be able to send a list of users to CB who you thought may have been stolen and then they would investigate and return any commissions from that user. But they stopped doing that.

Thanks Pal, I will try that... Will open the file in Excel and sort by userid, if they purchased a lot in the past but suddenly stopped purchasing I will add those users to the list.

The only problem I have is getting the full data... I probably have more than 100,000 items during all the years promoting them and they only offer CSV with max 10K items.

So you all send this request to "affiliates AT chaturbate" email?

adultbizwork 06-02-2024 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zerovic (Post 23269804)
If I'm not wrong, you can ask the support for the full report. I'm however good with 10k lines as I don't have that many atm

Thanks buddy will try that.

feetpics 06-03-2024 05:00 AM

Chaturbate has not paid me yet from the last pay period, I have not received my EFT

sarettah 06-03-2024 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by feetpics (Post 23270127)
Chaturbate has not paid me yet from the last pay period, I have not received my EFT

do you mean the period that ended this past Friday? or the one that ended on the 15th?

jibaiban 06-03-2024 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by feetpics (Post 23270127)
Chaturbate has not paid me yet from the last pay period, I have not received my EFT


i have not received my BTC payment yet ,May 16th-31st

Colmike9 06-03-2024 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jibaiban (Post 23270147)
i have not received my BTC payment yet ,May 16th-31st

The period just ended and it was on the weekend, I don't think they paid out yet.

sarettah 06-03-2024 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by feetpics (Post 23269818)
Has anyone received the last payment period? I have still not got my ETF and I requested it on Wednesday May 29

I have noticed that when a daily payout request is made very close to the end of the pay period that is usually gets handled with the end of the period payments. I could be wrong, but that is what it has always looked like to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by feetpics (Post 23270127)
Chaturbate has not paid me yet from the last pay period, I have not received my EFT

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Originally Posted by jibaiban (Post 23270147)
i have not received my BTC payment yet ,May 16th-31st

The pay period ended Friday at midnight. Chaturbate and the payment processor are both U.S. based (I believe). They have never seemed to work weekends, so when a pay period ends on friday, it is not handled until Monday at the earliest and usually not until Tuesday.

I would expect payments to go out either this afternoon or tomorrow morning.

adultbizwork 06-05-2024 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 23261399)
You used to be able to get more, if I remember correctly.

As I said, you could ask support if they can get you a dump of your entire history. The information is in the system, at least as far back as January 2015. That is the earliest date available in the dashboard for stats.

Ok, I asked chaturbate support and they answered me that they don't provide the full report anymore. No luck there.

So we are very limited to the last 10,000 transactions. Yes, they even limited prior to 2015 in the dashboard as well.

How were you able to access your members from 2015, 2016, 2017? You have saved copies of the "revshare_transactions.csv" from the past?

sarettah 06-05-2024 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by adultbizwork (Post 23270926)
Ok, I asked chaturbate support and they answered me that they don't provide the full report anymore. No luck there.

So we are very limited to the last 10,000 transactions. Yes, they even limited prior to 2015 in the dashboard as well.

How were you able to access your members from 2015, 2016, 2017? You have saved copies of the "revshare_transactions.csv" from the past?

yes, i have all my transaction files back to Jun 2014 when i got my first sale


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