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  • vdbucks
    Monger Cash
    • Jul 2010
    • 2773

    #31
    Originally posted by adentio99
    1) if you're allowing your members to download the video to their computer - how do you protect those videos from getting copied to multiple computers ?

    what's the latest DRM methodology that is used ?

    2) for pay site owners - how do you restrict the access to the one who purchased it ? Do you use any specific narrowed down approach to provide access to the ONLY one who purchased your membership ?? how to stop him from providing his login credentials to couple of people?

    What methods do the popular websites use?
    Don't use DRM, your members will hate you for it, especially for mobile, which is likely going to account for about 85% of your traffic or more. There are watermarking solutions that can embed member info in the files on the fly, but like everything else tailored to adult, it's ridiculously expensive and way out of most peoples' budget.

    We have a site that doesn't allow downloads, and we handle streaming through vzaar (which is now dacast), but we still have a major piracy problem because they can screen record. No level of content protection is any more effective than the 1 person out there who can circumvent it.

    Your best bet when it comes to the video files is to accept the fact you will be pirated, and do what you can to mitigate it (see below). Pirates WILL steal your content, and you won't be able to stop them. You also have to keep in mind the actual cost of dealing with piracy measures, in which we've spent 100's of thousands over the years, and weigh whether or not focusing on piracy is cost-effective. Hint: It's not. People who are visiting these piracy sites aren't going to pay for your site.

    For access management, we use a 2fa service called Login3 https://login3.modthree.io/ that works far better than other solutions, such as Password Sentry (which we used for years prior to Login3).

    Outside of restricting access as much as possible, you need to target search engines for DMCA. If they can't rank, they can't maximize on their file locker pennies, and eventually, they'll move on to softer targets. Well, most of them will.

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    • SpicyM
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2006
      • 4575

      #32
      Originally posted by vdbucks
      We have a site that doesn't allow downloads
      Does it affect rebills a lot?
      no sig, sorry

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      • Porko
        SeeMyBucks.com
        • Sep 2002
        • 4014

        #33
        We allow users to stream and download. It helps with rebills.
        To protect members areas we use a custom script which it's pretty secure.

        Hope it helps

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        • vdbucks
          Monger Cash
          • Jul 2010
          • 2773

          #34
          Originally posted by SpicyM
          Does it affect rebills a lot?
          Not at all. The site also updates daily and has many things implemented to keep members engaged on the site, so it balances out.

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          • SpicyM
            Confirmed User
            • Aug 2006
            • 4575

            #35
            Originally posted by vdbucks
            Not at all. The site also updates daily and has many things implemented to keep members engaged on the site, so it balances out.


            I believe that if the content is unique and the price is set accordingly people won't mind streaming.

            Do you use floating watermarks with user info to further protect the videos?

            Like here:

            https://www.safestream.com/demo
            no sig, sorry

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            • The Porn Nerd
              Living The Dream
              • Jun 2009
              • 19784

              #36
              Originally posted by SpicyM


              I believe that if the content is unique and the price is set accordingly people won't mind streaming.

              Do you use floating watermarks with user info to further protect the videos?

              Like here:

              https://www.safestream.com/demo
              I don't do that because I find the user info part too 'Big Brother' and creepy for me. I would cancel any site that threatened me like that assuming I was a criminal or pirate.

              I know that's not the intent but that would be my paranoid reaction. LOL
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              • vdbucks
                Monger Cash
                • Jul 2010
                • 2773

                #37
                Originally posted by SpicyM


                I believe that if the content is unique and the price is set accordingly people won't mind streaming.

                Do you use floating watermarks with user info to further protect the videos?

                Like here:

                https://www.safestream.com/demo
                The price for this particular site of ours is actually quite a bit higher than the standard subscription price, but, we're able to charge what we charge due to the exclusivity of the content and the update schedule.

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                • TACNet
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 452

                  #38
                  Originally posted by AmeliaG
                  Do folks in this thread tend to use the Proxigence ProxyPass solution and find it works for them?
                  Yep we use Proxypass and Link Sentinel (both from Proxigence). We also use their single sign on module PSSO which is handy if you want to have a single login to multiple members areas

                  As for downloads, i think you have to offer downloads these days but dont use DRM. The most you can do is watermark your videos with your URL using something like FFMPeg


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                  • TACNet
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 452

                    #39
                    Has anybody looked at the stats of how many users download vs streaming ??

                    Its something i plan to setup on our network but just not got round to it yet. Easy to do though.

                    Im guessing there's a lot of users that wouldnt want to download (eg mobile users or guys that just dont want the wife to find their porn stash)


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                    • The Porn Nerd
                      Living The Dream
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 19784

                      #40
                      Originally posted by TACNet
                      Has anybody looked at the stats of how many users download vs streaming ??

                      Its something i plan to setup on our network but just not got round to it yet. Easy to do though.

                      Im guessing there's a lot of users that wouldnt want to download (eg mobile users or guys that just dont want the wife to find their porn stash)
                      For my various sites it's around 60/40 streaming vs downloading. But this can be tied to (I assume) the use of smart phones and tablets. Desktop and laptop users tend to download and save while the mobile users stream. That's the basic breakdown for my Members.
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