I'm not saying it's an exclusively Canadian problem but since this thread IS about Canada, I mentioned that problem in the Canadian context.

Also, besides the countries you mentioned, South Korea and Singapore are having population replacement issues as well.

It is interesting you mentioned JAPAN because Japan bucks the trend of using IMMIGRATION to fix its labor issues. Instead, it's turning to easier to pick fruit and produce, automation, and other non-immigration related solutions.

I suppose this alternative solution can help but it may be a stop gap solutions. Last I checked, robots don't pay taxes which fund entitlements that go to a rapidly aging population.

My pet theory is that a country's WEALTH and OVERALL EDUCATION LEVEL (for the middle class and above) acts as social contraception. Having kids is a less attractive option. Proof? Look at Mexico's population patterns-the middle class and above are having less and less children. The same play out, interestingly enough, in many other developing countries.

It's a class and economics thing?

So maybe the solution can either be:

1) Have more kids in the developed world to stave off immigration or......

2) Further development in developing countries to produce sustainable INCLUSIVE growth which leads to lower population growth.... This can make emigration less attractive (although in the case of So Korea, it's not a slam dunk-there's still a comparatively heavy flow of Koreans to the US and other countries despite heavy industrialization).

Option #2 has to come from the developing countries themselves in order to work and last I checked, 3rd World monopolists aren't exactly jumping at the chance to bring economic democracy (and lower profits for them) to their shores...

So we're back to the whole LOW DEVELOPED COUNTRY BIRTH RATE (PULL) and WEAK DEVELOPING COUNTRY MIDDLE CLASS FORMATION/ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES (PUSH) factors.

Good points . You raise a very interesting point: It appears that part of the reason for Canada's migration policy is the need to import labor to fund the benefits of an aging population.

But maybe there's an alternative solution involving AUTOMATION/ROBOTICS and also, changes in benefits/incentives.

Ultimately, it goes to a core question: Is there a law that a country should have a large population?

Interestingly enough, Scandinavian countries with comparatively small populations routinely rank high in Human development and happiness indices.

Also, I agree with the point raised by another poster above, EDUCATION and STANDARDS OF LIVING tend to have an inverse relationship with BIRTH RATES.

Maybe this should be the focus in the developing world. Less migration. Lower global population overall.

From a historical perspective, it's only since medical advances in the late 1700s and onwards that resulted in an ALGAE-LIKE EXPLOSION IN HUMAN POPULATION.

From a purely historical perspective, it doesn't really fit the natural pattern.

Maybe the REAL carrying capacity of the planet is lower.

What's wrong with a happier, well-fed, low population planet where there's less competing mouths to feed?

yep, where there is less education and more religious involvement there are more people having kids. around here when people do decide to have kids they are already in their 30's. i probably know more people who will never have kids than will/already do. they have lots of disposible income to have fun with and gone are the expectations from society to have a family. 40 years ago you were looked at as a weirdo if you didn't get married and have kids. now its the norm. the people with big families in suburban ottawa is 90% immigrants. they are often educated and do well for themselves but remain highly religious which is i'm guessing the reason for the big family.

who is "the american"?? birth rates for who?? i see white people on the cover :2 cents::2 cents:

if you read the article you'd see they talk about more than just white people. however white people are leading in the 'childless life' race.

that's what i meant exactly. why not show a group of multiple races? because the majority is whites. :2 cents::2 cents:

Hell, Politicians and all their buddies can call me a wimp and coward all they want if they stop the planes. I will even wear a dress and poop in the girls bathroom.

As long as I can continue to drink my beer, get bacon on my Subway sandwich, my girl can wear her mini-skirt and I don't have to hear that shitty ass call to prayer every morning for a pig fucking pedophile, I am good.

I bet it'll be easier for them to enter the US once in Canada. :2 cents:

Damn they will be all over very soon

LOL :thumbsup

lol, scared ? I bet more people die from the gun violence that goes on in your country than w/e these guys will do, if they will do, its also not good to let your fears control you.

exactly man. why people are terrified by beaten down women and children from a war zone is beyond me.

from the posts here it seems a large percentage of the posters here are skilled mma fighters and gun and martial arts experts so they should be able to handle themselves when they cross a refugee woman on the street.

since when did fear become the ruling emotion in our societies?

i just don't see the need to fast track refugees here without security checks. they have said it will be impossible to screen people before they come here so they will be screened once they are already here. what is the purpose of that? just so justin can say he did what he said he would? you keep using fear as a scapegoat but never said why we should just allow this? why are you so for it?

where are you getting this no screening from?

last night i read that canada is doing screening on top of the un screening and they aren't letting any single men in now anyways. just women, children and families.

they are screening 500 a day before they even get here.

i'm not for anything. i just think the fears are overblown.

when did our societies become so cowardly and fearful?

life is too short to let your life to be ruled by boogymen under the bed.

I haven't heard that but I haven't read every article about it either. The last one I read had an official claiming that to keep the goal of 25k before Jan 1st it would be impossible to screen everyone and that some will have to be screened after they arrive here.

if you just sit by and shrug off everything then your country will be used and abused by those in power. it already is. and society is becoming fearful. at every gathering of people, in the backs of the minds of many will be, is there going to be an attack here? of course its foolish to worry all the time about such things but fact is its going to happen somewhere to someone again. it will probably never happen to you or i but someone got killed for going to a concert, for going out for drinks just for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. that creates fear in people.

well i guess this is all for nothing as apparently syrian refugees don't want to come to canada...

out of 28,000 text messages sent to refugees only 3100 came for interviews with the UN and out of that only 1800 were interested in going to canada.

Syrian refugees reluctant to resettle in Canada immediately, Ottawa says - The Globe and Mail

Now Trump will need to build a wall on the Canadian Border...

Specially in Canada but the US definitely applies but its because being a masculine men is a negative thing in our week thinking society and conformity and submission breeds stupidity and fear.

At a loss for words. How can the Canadian government be this naive? It's like they made this decision while being stoned in a hippie circle of love inside a gated community. Completely detached from reality.

Prepare for 900 islamic young men aged 20 to 30 each day. Good luck Canada :thumbsup

https://www.facebook.com/AustralianP...909837/?type=3

https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...83&oe=56EE11F9

That just cracks me right up. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Maybe we need to ship them a few million free Blackberrys so they can respond to us.

Jesus fuck.

Stick them in the Northern part where the polar bear run amok and feed them beaten seal meat,then they will go back home

Pamela Anderson just put in a formal complaint about this post.

welcome to the new canadians ... :thumbsup

syranada :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

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