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Old 11-20-2015, 08:36 AM   #1
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The IRS Will Take Your Passport

Americans: Pay your taxes?or lose your passport - Yahoo Finance

The IRS Is Comina Gitcha!

The IRS Is Comina Gitcha!
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Old 11-20-2015, 09:45 AM   #2
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:28 AM   #3
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many people don't realise that the government can clean out your bank account when they want to.

I had a ticket a while ago, went into appeal etc. But the huge amounts of burocracy lost track of the order of appeals. Then i got a letter saying 'if you dont pay, we will take the amount off your bank account'.

Thats when i realized even if you are right, they still can just take your money when they want to. Freedom, right?
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:41 AM   #4
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Americans: Pay your taxes?or lose your passport - Yahoo Finance

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The list of affected taxpayers will be compiled by the Internal Revenue Service using a threshold of $50,000 of unpaid federal taxes, including penalties and interest, which would be adjusted for inflation.

If enacted in current form, the law would take effect on Jan. 1 and would apply to existing tax debts. According to estimates by the Joint Committee on Taxation, the measure is expected to raise $398 million over 10 years.

^^^^ They SHOULD do that.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:59 AM   #5
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if you live in the Islamic Terrorist State you must pay your tax too -- if you don't they give you a new job in the suicide bomber department.
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Old 11-20-2015, 01:13 PM   #6
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They tried to pass this once before - it didn't work
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Old 11-20-2015, 01:22 PM   #7
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For those who think that this is a good idea... You realize that they can simply accuse you of owing the taxes, and then it's up to YOU to prove that you are innocent. . They will freeze your accounts when they do this, so you can't hire a lawyer. If this passes, then the irs will be able to accuse whomever they wish, freeze their accounts and then basically take away your citizenship. All based purely on the word of some little clerk at the IRS.


Do you REALLY think that this is a good situation??


Some of you guys are so naive when it comes to what the US government can do to you.

There will be no judicial review, and no due process. You don?t get to go in front of a judge first to have a fair and impartial hearing over whether or not the government?s tax allegations are accurate.

ha

The language in the law is very clear: they can simply revoke your passport if you owe them money in their sole discretion.
ha

Therehawashaone more provision that proposed raising revenue from the biggest banks in America by reducing the dividend they receive from the Federal Reserve.

ha

Curiously, though, this specific provision was defeated yesterday after a heated committee meeting in Congress.

ha

So while the banks? profits are off-limits, and the government will spend billions of taxpayer dollars to boost profits at Boeing, American citizens are threatened with having their passports revoked in order to raise money.

ha

It couldn?t be any more obvious how much the system is stacked against the little guy.

ha

They treat you like a dairy cow that exists only to be milked dry? like a medieval serf tied to the land and forced to serve his overlords.









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Old 11-20-2015, 03:00 PM   #8
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sperbonzo is on the spot!
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:14 PM   #9
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I don't get it, seems like common sense, why should the crime of tax evasion be treated any different than other crimes?
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:27 PM   #10
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The idiot part is this:

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the measure is expected to raise $398 million over 10 years
That is roughly $40 million per year. For all of the people it will affect you save .000001 percent of the money for the entire budget.

While doing so you spend an additional $10 million policing the new policy. You spend another $5 on litigation with people who unjustly got swept into the mess.

Also in addition you end up not getting the money you would have received had all of those foreign workers who are behind in payments been allowed to work within the law. Now they are going to go completely off of the grid. And you will spend $10 million policing that.

It reminds me of drug testing welfare recipients. You end up losing money on that too.

If they really gave two shits about anything it would be figuring out how to get back the BILLIONS tech companies have stored in foreign accounts. THAT would be the same cost to police, but a 1000 times yield on money actually received.
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Old 11-20-2015, 03:37 PM   #11
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Anyone who wants to give the government even more power has to be a complete idiot.
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Old 11-20-2015, 06:43 PM   #12
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Just another desperate move by a declining empire.
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Old 11-20-2015, 07:12 PM   #13
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sperbonzo is on the spot!
He's one of the few with a brain around here... actually, governments around the world but particularly in indebted western countries are creeping towards this kind of financial enslavement. In the UK they can already just pull cash out of your bank account.

Taxman will soon be able to snatch money from YOUR bank account without permission - Mirror Online

IMO this is only the start of really financially oppressive and confiscatory powers that are going to be coming up in the future. It's much easier to take wealth than to cut welfare bill and reduce spending by over bloated big government.

Don't forget that most people don't work for a living, they vote for a living.
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Old 11-21-2015, 11:27 AM   #14
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Lets see if Obama signs it - he probably will though.
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Old 11-22-2015, 08:24 AM   #15
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Lets see if Obama signs it - he probably will though.
Errrrrrrr... Of course he will.





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Old 12-07-2015, 07:55 PM   #16
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Errrrrrrr... Of course he will.
Looks like it passed (quietly judging by how little news carriers posted about it):

Will The IRS Take Your Passport? | Zero Hedge

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Old 12-07-2015, 08:21 PM   #17
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For those who think that this is a good idea... You realize that they can simply accuse you of owing the taxes, and then it's up to YOU to prove that you are innocent. . They will freeze your accounts when they do this, so you can't hire a lawyer. If this passes, then the irs will be able to accuse whomever they wish, freeze their accounts and then basically take away your citizenship. All based purely on the word of some little clerk at the IRS.


Do you REALLY think that this is a good situation??


Some of you guys are so naive when it comes to what the US government can do to you.

There will be no judicial review, and no due process. You don?t get to go in front of a judge first to have a fair and impartial hearing over whether or not the government?s tax allegations are accurate.

ha

The language in the law is very clear: they can simply revoke your passport if you owe them money in their sole discretion.
ha

Therehawashaone more provision that proposed raising revenue from the biggest banks in America by reducing the dividend they receive from the Federal Reserve.

ha

Curiously, though, this specific provision was defeated yesterday after a heated committee meeting in Congress.

ha

So while the banks? profits are off-limits, and the government will spend billions of taxpayer dollars to boost profits at Boeing, American citizens are threatened with having their passports revoked in order to raise money.

ha

It couldn?t be any more obvious how much the system is stacked against the little guy.

ha

They treat you like a dairy cow that exists only to be milked dry? like a medieval serf tied to the land and forced to serve his overlords.



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Indeed...this is just one more intrusion into an individuals person freedom which is so quickly being taken away bit by bit over the past few years. The freedom to get the fuck out of this shithole should always be an option!

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They will probably have to renounce citizenships
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Old 12-08-2015, 05:24 AM   #20
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many people don't realise that the government can clean out your bank account when they want to.

I had a ticket a while ago, went into appeal etc. But the huge amounts of burocracy lost track of the order of appeals. Then i got a letter saying 'if you dont pay, we will take the amount off your bank account'.

Thats when i realized even if you are right, they still can just take your money when they want to. Freedom, right?
The IRS doesn't even need a court order to hit your bank account..... think who else has the power in the USA...... nobody
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:01 AM   #21
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What will be interesting is how many people will not sign up for health care next year and not be able to pay the fine.
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