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Old 03-20-2003, 11:57 AM   #1
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China says "STOP"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2003Mar20.html

Regardless of how I feel about this war, I just can't help but notice the delicious irony of China's impassioned plea. Is this the same China that killed thousands of Tibetan monks? or how about using tanks to crush unarmed students? or how about killing religious dissidents and "harvesting" their organs?
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Old 03-20-2003, 12:14 PM   #2
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Yup, we're coming for you next china, you better watch your ass because it will be taped.
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Old 03-20-2003, 12:15 PM   #3
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Yup, we're coming for you next china, you better watch your ass because it will be taped.
At least the Free Tibet concerts are a blast!
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Old 03-20-2003, 12:17 PM   #4
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China would also fuck the US up to hell if US did this to china.


They have 10s of not 100s of nuclear weapons pointed towards washington and major cities in the US.



US will never mess around with the Chinese.

not now , not in a 100 years.
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Old 03-20-2003, 12:17 PM   #5
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Yup, we're coming for you next china, you better watch your ass because it will be taped.
If we ever go against China I will be the first to sell my sites, find a bunker and stock up.....
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Old 03-20-2003, 12:18 PM   #6
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Fuck China. They've got a repressive regime too. The young people over there will eventually do the job of taking them out too.
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Old 03-20-2003, 12:21 PM   #7
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China would also fuck the US up to hell if US did this to china.


They have 10s of not 100s of nuclear weapons pointed towards washington and major cities in the US.



US will never mess around with the Chinese.

not now , not in a 100 years.

Another good reason for a ABM defenses.

However even asside from that the US is unlikely to seek a war with China. China is too important a trading partner and its foolishness to get into a war with a country that over 1 billion people.
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China would also fuck the US up to hell if US did this to china.


They have 10s of not 100s of nuclear weapons pointed towards washington and major cities in the US.



US will never mess around with the Chinese.

not now , not in a 100 years.

....and they will never mess with the U.S.

not now, not in 100 years.


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Old 03-20-2003, 12:23 PM   #9
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....and they will never mess with the U.S.

not now, not in 100 years.


Maybe with Taiwan but not the US, too much money involved.
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....and they will never mess with the U.S.

not now, not in 100 years.


China is a corrupt capitalist country that claims to be communist. Chairman Mao would not recognize the place. They are doing too well with the west to screw it up now.
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Old 03-20-2003, 12:24 PM   #11
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China is a corrupt capitalist country that claims to be communist. Chairman Mao would not recognize the place. They are doing too well with the west to screw it up now.
Exactly, that's why relic Maoist movements in the Philippines and Nepal don't even bother asking for support from China. They're just living off the fumes of Chairman Mao's Cultural Revolution of the 60's.
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Old 03-20-2003, 12:32 PM   #13
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China is a corrupt capitalist country that claims to be communist. Chairman Mao would not recognize the place. They are doing too well with the west to screw it up now.
Yeah Sting changed his song "I hope the Russians love their children too," just for the Chinese...it is now "I hope the Chinese love their Internet too."

But seriously...we don't need to drop the bombs on these ignorant towel heads we just need to make sure every citizen has shelter, plumbing, food, a computer with an internet connection.

Give the kids a playstation 2, some Skechers and some American pop musics and I think that they'll all realize that they'd rather have material possessions instead of all this fighting
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Old 03-20-2003, 12:38 PM   #14
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Maybe with Taiwan but not the US, too much money involved.
w/ the precendent that the US has set by flouting UN opinion lately, i wouldn't be surprised to see China take their chance to do the same to Taiwan now..
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Maybe with Taiwan but not the US, too much money involved.
You must've forgotton that Taiwan is allies with the US.
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Old 03-20-2003, 02:32 PM   #16
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we don't need to drop the bombs on these ignorant towel heads
FYI Chinese people are not Arabs
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w/ the precendent that the US has set by flouting UN opinion lately, i wouldn't be surprised to see China take their chance to do the same to Taiwan now..
Exactly. And when the US will protest against such attack China will say "Hey, you did it first".
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Old 03-20-2003, 02:38 PM   #18
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China is a good country these days.

You would be surprised how motivated they are in developing free market and LATER even more freedom to their people

They are slowly building their huge country into an economic giant.

And any war would ruin it all, so it's out of the question.
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Old 03-20-2003, 02:39 PM   #19
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But seriously...we don't need to drop the bombs on these ignorant towel heads we just need to make sure every citizen has shelter, plumbing, food, a computer with an internet connection.




What turnip truck did you fall off of? If you're going to use a racial epithet, at least make sure it's accurate. towel head? LMAO....sorry, I've never seen an athiest chinese person wear a towel on their head.
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China would also fuck the US up to hell if US did this to china.


They have 10s of not 100s of nuclear weapons pointed towards washington and major cities in the US.



US will never mess around with the Chinese.

not now , not in a 100 years.
Bullshit. They have more people, but we're still far more technoloigically advanced when it comes to war. But on the other hand, they are by far our biggest threat....
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What turnip truck did you fall off of? If you're going to use a racial epithet, at least make sure it's accurate. towel head? LMAO....sorry, I've never seen an athiest chinese person wear a towel on their head.
I believe he's reffering to Iraqis...
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China is some scarey cracker, politically and MILITARILY SPEAKING. Iraq, Iran, N. Korea, and the like are just fly's on the wall. China DOES have the ability to inflict a world war, imo. Thus I am very concerned at their position in all this.

I wish we we're more concerned publically with their aresonal. Just my
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Old 03-20-2003, 02:52 PM   #23
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Dont those fuckers still kill their own babies over there?
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Yup, we're coming for you next china, you better watch your ass because it will be taped.
you are scared of China so don't tell bullshit
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Yup, we're coming for you next china, you better watch your ass because it will be taped.
You better pray that china doesnt ever go to war with the states......

it would be the end of the world.
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I think we should spend the next ten years trying to figure out how to convert the shitty Chinese traffic. There will be more of them online than us.



If we cant convert it THEN we should go to war.
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You must've forgotton that Taiwan is allies with the US.
That's easily proven when you go to Walmart and look at the little stickers on the back of 90% of their products.

You know.. those stores that used to have big signs right inside the front doors that read, "All of Walmart's products are proudly made in the USA" ..

Hmm.. wonder who got greedy??
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I think we should spend the next ten years trying to figure out how to convert the shitty Chinese traffic. There will be more of them online than us.



If we cant convert it THEN we should go to war.
Heh, make money and die with it?
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China has never been a war-like country.
They have been attacked throughout history, but not very often have they been the aggressors. Most of chinas "wrong doing" happened within their own country.
The only exception to this is Taibet.

Taiwan used to belong to China and they want it back. Once/If they take Taiwan its highly unlikely they will try to expand.
They have thousands of years of history suggesting they won't.

US-China are huge trade partners, but not on good terms because 2 issues:

N.Korea is Americans enemy, but they are China's ally. This is a problem.

Taiwan is Americans ally, but China wants to re-claim Taiwan. Another problem.

Once those issues are solved China-US relations will run alot smoother.
I imagine things will get tense like the cold war with Russia but eventually America & China will be fine.
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You must've forgotton that Taiwan is allies with the US.
So was Iraq during the Iran-Iraq war. It is sad but true...alliances change depending on how much $$$ is involved. There's definitely more $$$ directly invested/waiting to be invested in China than in Taiwan. If you want proof, just look at how radically the US stance towards China has changed from the 1940s to Nixon's visit to Deng Xiaopeng's financial reforms to the US' military inaction during Tienanmen. Also compare how much direct US corporate investment got PUMPED into China before and after Tienanmen and compare their percentage growths with investments to Taiwan.

Out of political convenience, the Taiwan alliance will crumble cuz the US won't want to piss of its giant factory...called CHINA.
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China would also fuck the US up to hell if US did this to china.


They have 10s of not 100s of nuclear weapons pointed towards washington and major cities in the US.



US will never mess around with the Chinese.

not now , not in a 100 years.
Last I checked at Jane's, China has 80-85 warheads.
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China has never been a war-like country.
Tell that to the Koreans who got invaded under Emperor Wu Ti of the Han Dynasty.

Tell that to the Dalai Lama who saw Tibet swallowed by the Chinese in 1950.

Tell that to the Vietnamese who got invaded under the Southern Sung Dynasty.

Tell that to the Japanese who repelled a Chinese invasion during the Yuan [mongol] dynasty. [Incidentally, this period saw the birth of the concept of Kamikaze--the Divine Wind...a term reserved for the storms that battered the Chinese navy as they tried to invade Japan]
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China is some scarey cracker, politically and MILITARILY SPEAKING. Iraq, Iran, N. Korea, and the like are just fly's on the wall. China DOES have the ability to inflict a world war, imo. Thus I am very concerned at their position in all this.

I wish we we're more concerned publically with their aresonal. Just my
Plus there's reports of Chinese satellite technology. Iraq really can't compare to China in terms of military preparedness. While the US is still heads and shoulders above China in terms of its arsenal...China is closing the gap. Russia used to be number 2 but given its economic problems, it may fall way behind.
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LMAO....sorry, I've never seen an athiest chinese person wear a towel on their head.
lol. Good point. Maybe only when they go those Oriental massages on Sutter Street and also Grant Street in SF Chinatown.
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Exactly. We the west are so powerful hu?
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Exactly. And when the US will protest against such attack China will say "Hey, you did it first".
After China says that after butt reaming Taiwan, India will say the same thing after pimpslapping Pakistan over the Kashmir-Jammu territory.
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Damn its nice being influential!
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