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  • RummyBoy
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    • Dec 2009
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    #1

    News Ed Snowden Says Smartphones Can Be "Controlled"

    Snowden in his latest revelations reveals your smartphone can be switched on without you knowing it, enabling AUDIO and VIDEO to be sent back to the NSA/GCHQ using capabilities named after SMURFs (those blue cartoon characters lol)

    Once GCHQ had gained access to a user's handset, Mr Snowden said the agency would be able to see "who you call, what you've texted, the things you've browsed, the list of your contacts, the places you've been, the wireless networks that your phone is associated with. And they can do much more. They can photograph you.

    Edward Snowden interview: 'Smartphones can be taken over' - BBC News

    He's on Panorama (A UK show):

    BBC iPlayer - Watch BBC One live
  • PorN-LinK
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    • Sep 2015
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    #2
    Interesting

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    • SBJ
      So Fucking Fabulous
      • Apr 2003
      • 11387

      #3
      well duh!

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      • RummyBoy
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        • Dec 2009
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        #4

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        • MiamiBoyz
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          • Oct 2012
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          #5
          Of course this is true. Smart phones for stupid people.

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          • Rochard
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            • Dec 2001
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            #6
            There is no doubt in my mind this is true. It's disappointing that anyone ever thought otherwise.
            Herschel Savage
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            • Choopa Phil
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              • Apr 2009
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              #7
              Originally posted by Rochard
              There is no doubt in my mind this is true. It's disappointing that anyone ever thought otherwise.
              ^ This!

              I thought this info had already been previously released...years ago
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              • phypon
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                • Oct 2003
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                #8
                Originally posted by Rochard
                There is no doubt in my mind this is true. It's disappointing that anyone ever thought otherwise.
                That's why D-Vasive app for Android was created ;-)

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                • clickity click
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                  • Aug 2014
                  • 3682

                  #9
                  Even Facebook can do this.

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                  • clickity click
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                    • Aug 2014
                    • 3682

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RummyBoy

                    He's on Panorama (A UK show):

                    BBC iPlayer - Watch BBC One live
                    It's called Spies and the Law.

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                    • klinton
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                      • Apr 2003
                      • 8766

                      #11
                      exactly, he already told about that 2 years ago while in Hong Kong - and earlier before that all tech savy guys also knew that...
                      BBC just wanted "good" headline for their interview, thats why they had to chose something "screaming" for the public
                      https://freesnowden.is/revelations/
                      read it, from bottom to the top !;-)
                      Originally posted by Choopa Phil
                      ^ This!

                      I thought this info had already been previously released...years ago

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                      • Vendot
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                        • May 2002
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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rochard
                        There is no doubt in my mind this is true. It's disappointing that anyone ever thought otherwise.
                        It will come as a surprise to freedom loving people everywhere but why should ANYTHING come as a surprise to:

                        ROCHARD [Government Pet]

                        Friendly neighbor by day, evil agent of the Federal Government by calling. Don't forget, one day in the future when the government awakens to come and enforce its will on you, ROCHARD will be there with his boot on your throat. All you'll feel is the razor sharp studs on the sole of his boot and all you'll see is the red, white and blue of the American flag emblazoned on his boot before the feds shortly arrive to take you away. ROCHARD will take great pleasure in recording all your government gripes and secretly passing them on up the chain - he probably keeps a scrap book dedicated to the purpose of recording detractors.
                        "In a Time of Universal Deceit, Telling the Truth is a Revolutionary Act." - George Orwell

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                        • just a punk
                          So fuckin' bored
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 32393

                          #13
                          Originally posted by RummyBoy
                          Ed Snowden Says Smartphones Can Be "Controlled"
                          Is this really a news for anybody?
                          Obey the Cowgod

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                          • seeandsee
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                            #14
                            everybody know this
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                            • klinton
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 8766

                              #15
                              you sound like a really knowledgeable man, what else do you know ?

                              Originally posted by seeandsee
                              everybody know this

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                              • rowan
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Mar 2002
                                • 17393

                                #16
                                I was musing earlier today that because my 4G mobile broadband dongle is actually an embedded Linux device, which you can telnet into and log into as root (if you know the password), it's likely that it could be taken over.

                                I just logged into it and confirmed that the telnet connection is listening on "any" address, not just the USB interface. In other words, you may be able to telnet into this device through the mobile interface... from the internet...

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                                • SBJ
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                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 11387

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Vendot
                                  It will come as a surprise to freedom loving people everywhere but why should ANYTHING come as a surprise to:

                                  ROCHARD [Government Pet]

                                  Friendly neighbor by day, evil agent of the Federal Government by calling. Don't forget, one day in the future when the government awakens to come and enforce its will on you, ROCHARD will be there with his boot on your throat. All you'll feel is the razor sharp studs on the sole of his boot and all you'll see is the red, white and blue of the American flag emblazoned on his boot before the feds shortly arrive to take you away. ROCHARD will take great pleasure in recording all your government gripes and secretly passing them on up the chain - he probably keeps a scrap book dedicated to the purpose of recording detractors.
                                  Somebody forgot for take their meds..i just hope you don't have guns.

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                                  • ruff
                                    I have a plan B
                                    • Aug 2004
                                    • 5507

                                    #18
                                    Smart phones are controlling us. I see them everyday leading people around by the nose.
                                    CryptoFeeds

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                                    • SBJ
                                      So Fucking Fabulous
                                      • Apr 2003
                                      • 11387

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by ruff
                                      Smart phones are controlling us. I see them everyday leading people around by the nose.
                                      this is true. Smart phones have made people extra dumb. Some people stop thinking for themselves cause their phones hold all the answers. Then it use to be that the only bad drivers on the road were old people and drunks but now texting and driving is 6 times more dangerous than drinking and driving.

                                      Don't get me wrong I love me phone but it doesn't run my life

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                                      • oppoten
                                        NAME THE JEW
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by clickity click
                                        Even Facebook can do this.
                                        I would expect Facebook to do it.

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                                        • shiraz9944
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                                          • Jan 2002
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                                          #21
                                          Duh a smartphone though cool is the single best way to be tracked. Get a blackphone 2 or turing if you are that concerned. D-vasic pro free will tell you if your mic is being used, your camera, your speaker or bluetooth anything. free from the google store. Use a stingray monitor if you are concerned with interception or GPS location. Better yet use textsecure adn redphone for all your communication. Nothing is full proof I know and once they have you in their cross hair it's nearly impossible but the point is stay hidden in plain site. Encrypt your phone, enable 10 attempts until it bricks then they can't brute force it. Not much else they can do to then.

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                                          • shiraz9944
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                                            • Jan 2002
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                                            #22
                                            oh and always always always use a good VPN while working

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                                            • xXXtesy10
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                                              #23
                                              snowden says if you do something illegal then could be caught. guy is fucking genius
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                                              • Spunky
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                                                • Jun 2002
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                                                #24
                                                I thought it was quite obvious

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                                                • shiraz9944
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by xXXtesy10
                                                  snowden says if you do something illegal then could be caught. guy is fucking genius
                                                  have you watched "deep web" on amazon, it's the full real snowden documentary from start to finish. The guy is a genius, the most advanced agency in the world NSA couldn't get him I'd say he's pretty good at what he does What I found cool was he put a sheet over his head to put his password in cause the NSA does have heuristic ways of seeng what you are typing in the open. He also says a 10 digit passcode would take the NSA 3 days to brute force open, so ya might wanna make those a bit better, or just like BB does you have 10 attempts and then the phone is bricked adn erased securely.

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                                                  • RummyBoy
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by shiraz9944
                                                    he put a sheet over his head to put his password in cause the NSA does have heuristic ways of seeng what you are typing in the open.
                                                    How can they?

                                                    I couldn't find Deep Web but I found this interview on phone hacking:

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                                                    • j3rkules
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                                                      • Jul 2013
                                                      • 22111

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by MiamiBoyz
                                                      Of course this is true. Smart phones for stupid people.

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                                                      • michael.kickass
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                                                        • Mar 2009
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                                                        #28
                                                        If Ed says it, it must be true.
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                                                        • klinton
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                                                          • Apr 2003
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                                                          #29
                                                          https://nsa.gov1.info/dni/

                                                          Originally posted by RummyBoy
                                                          How can they?

                                                          I couldn't find Deep Web but I found this interview on phone hacking:

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                                                          • klinton
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                                                            • Apr 2003
                                                            • 8766

                                                            #30
                                                            and what is "a good vpn" for you ?
                                                            Originally posted by shiraz9944
                                                            oh and always always always use a good VPN while working

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                                                            • shiraz9944
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                                                              • Jan 2002
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                                                              #31
                                                              Deep Web here ya go, the original story from beginning to now...........good flick it's on amazon

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                                                              • clickity click
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                                                                • Aug 2014
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                                                                #32
                                                                https://xmovies8.org/watch?v=Deep_We...O5hQruKcN_plvQ

                                                                Not watched and no idea if it's the same.

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                                                                • Robbie
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                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 20960

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Every good app developer in the world can control your smartphone. It's what apps do.
                                                                  Thank you Capt. Obvious!
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                                                                  • sandman!
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                                                                    • Mar 2001
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                                                                    #34



                                                                    Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                    There is no doubt in my mind this is true. It's disappointing that anyone ever thought otherwise.
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                                                                    • JFK
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by PorN-LinK
                                                                      Interesting
                                                                      no shit

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                                                                      • rowan
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                                                                        • Mar 2002
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        News flash: your phone needs to be tracked by the cell towers in order to maintain communication in the event that someone wants to call you.

                                                                        No amount of simplification (ie using an old flip) will remove this fundamental requirement.

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                                                                        • VikingMan
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          I hope the enjoy my farts and other disgusting personal habits. I always leave my phone on and uncovered so they get a good picture and audio. Time to shave my balls.

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                                                                          • shiraz9944
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                                                                            #38
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                                                                            Here ya go, if you really don't want to be tracked at home......use these,I keep spare phones in them just in the event something happens along with a 60 kw solar charger. Then agin as was mentioned above he is right if it's in the bag you can't exactly use it LOL so what is the point!

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                                                                            • shiraz9944
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              i mean when it comes down to it, if the NSA or GCHQ is after YOU and I mean really after you. There probably isn't much you can do other than give up all tech completely forever. OR get with a person who specializes in changing ID's and they do exist. Just expensive.

                                                                              But other than that, they aren't some magical eye in the sky seeing all and knowing all, just stay off their radar and you'll be fine. When I mean a GOOD VPN I just meant one that uses openVPN 256 at least and keeps NO logs ever, some keep logs so your use can be correlated with things and you don't want that, but even that is minor and they would need to be onto you already. Use textsecure, redphone, surf on a VPN always, use secure WIFI also you'll be fine.

                                                                              If you want to use a phone, yeah by nature they are going to know where you are LOL, that is the point, but ou can keep them from knowing what you are doing with the above programs. Wickr won't even allow the phone to take a screen shot of your screen and destructs the msgs when you tell it to. plus 512 bit encryption, no one can beat that. Use long long passwords, more than 15 characters. Get a samsung SSD and it has 256 encryption hardware built in, turn it on and make a good password, that way if it gets stolen in vegas or something it's useless to the person. Same with phones, who cares about locating your iphone if its stolen, encrypt it, then it's useless.

                                                                              Also if you are using a VPN then connecting to TOR to get on say something you shouldn't don't do it at home please. Yeah you're pretty secure BUT you never know, use an encrypted laptop and use an open wifi at a cafe or something, you'll be fine.

                                                                              Now the day quantum computing comes along......we might be fucked lol, they can break 512 bit in minutes. But I think we will just quantum to make nearly impossible algo's as well so it will continue to be a stalemate. One simple thing though to beat all the computing power in the world, when you encrypt your laptop, phone, home computer only allow 10 attempts before it's secure deleted. My S6 does this by default as do most blackberries. Really buying a blackphone is a waste all they do is use samsung knox to seperate the phone into two entities. The new app by mcafee is free and let's you know if your mic is being used, camera, speaker, everything, Very neat security. Also aomei has a stingray detector app you can use as well to see if you are being targeted since they only work on 2g.
                                                                              Last edited by shiraz9944; 10-08-2015, 02:36 AM. Reason: addition

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                                                                              • klinton
                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                • 8766

                                                                                #40
                                                                                how can you know that they actually do what they promise ? how can you be sure than lets say, 20 % of all VPN companies are not NSA honeyspots ? (did you read nsa "core secrets" leaked documents ?) ? there is no independent audit of vpn companies..they may write anything about what they deliver, but in reality, while browsing with them you may give up your privacy (datamining, datasharing etc.) even better than while using just your ISP...
                                                                                Originally posted by shiraz9944
                                                                                iWhen I mean a GOOD VPN I just meant one that uses openVPN 256 at least and keeps NO logs ever, some keep logs so your use can be correlated with things and you don't want that, but even that is minor and they would need to be onto you already.

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                                                                                • SBJ
                                                                                  So Fucking Fabulous
                                                                                  • Apr 2003
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Dude! There are some paranoid mother fuckers at this board. I mean so what if you want to track my phone.. It travels less than 15 miles a week and 95 percent of that is my once a week trip to town for groceries.. I dont use my phone to txt hookers or buy drugs.. Wanna use my phone to listen into my convos? Well i do talk to myself all day but really if you dont do shit wrong and arent racist and verbally voicing your hatred of gov then you really should have nothing to worry about.

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                                                                                  • shiraz9944
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                    how can you know that they actually do what they promise ? how can you be sure than lets say, 20 % of all VPN companies are not NSA honeyspots ? (did you read nsa "core secrets" leaked documents ?) ? there is no independent audit of vpn companies..they may write anything about what they deliver, but in reality, while browsing with them you may give up your privacy (datamining, datasharing etc.) even better than while using just your ISP...
                                                                                    I agree completely with you it's tough that's why we can't be totally sure. The EFF does a good job auditing VPN's and they have some open source ones that can be effectively safe. but as you said, what if the EFF is in their pocket too ))))))))))))

                                                                                    Hey at least we made the LEO officers in this country work for a living again LOL, they had gotten so lazy it was sad.


                                                                                    As to the guy who posted above, we work in pornography or most of us do so we do need to be a bit more careful than most when it comes to security. Imagine if Jeb Bush or someone like that or ted cruz were to get in the white house. Then you'd effectively be out of business or at in jail if you stayed in the US. Just remember Ben franklin; those that give up a little bit of liberty for security deserve neither. Or I think that is how it goes )))

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                                                                                    • klinton
                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                      • Apr 2003
                                                                                      • 8766

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      nah, i would actually trust EFF. you know, not everyone in this life & world is just for money.
                                                                                      but what do you mean that they actually DOaudit VPNs ? first time i heard about it...
                                                                                      actually I had idea to create independent body of vpn auditors (that could be run by some experts, leaded by for example people from eff or torproject etc.) - and they could audit any given vpn in any given time. audits would be unscheduled and usually done by surprise, like one time in month. those vpn providers that would be OK with that, would earn some certificate - that after some time could become standard in vpn industry....
                                                                                      Originally posted by shiraz9944
                                                                                      I agree completely with you it's tough that's why we can't be totally sure. The EFF does a good job auditing VPN's and they have some open source ones that can be effectively safe. but as you said, what if the EFF is in their pocket too ))))))))))))

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                                                                                      • klinton
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                                                                                        • Apr 2003
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        usually those who love power and are in power ,admire people like you. some even call them "sheeps". they love people who can give up all their basic human rights for various reasons
                                                                                        but you are right that having total privacy and anonymity requires a lot of work these days (or going offline), which is not comfortable option.
                                                                                        if the surveillance agencies would think the same like you ("we only target bad guys"), they wouldnt target whole societies and EVERYONE worldwide...what for ? maybe you will find answer by thinking for yourself, it doesnt hurt
                                                                                        Originally posted by SBJ
                                                                                        if you dont do shit wrong and arent racist and verbally voicing your hatred of gov then you really should have nothing to worry about.

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                                                                                        • JustDaveXxx
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                                                                                          • Feb 2005
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by SBJ
                                                                                          Dude! There are some paranoid mother fuckers at this board. I mean so what if you want to track my phone.. It travels less than 15 miles a week and 95 percent of that is my once a week trip to town for groceries.. I dont use my phone to txt hookers or buy drugs.. Wanna use my phone to listen into my convos? Well i do talk to myself all day but really if you dont do shit wrong and arent racist and verbally voicing your hatred of gov then you really should have nothing to worry about.
                                                                                          :thumbs


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                                                                                          • dcortez
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                                                                                            • Jun 2003
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            If I recall correctly, Apple holds some sort of patent on it's built feature to disable the Iphone on demand (of the goon squad?).

                                                                                            It's bad enough that our privacy is considered valueless by people who would never accept that same standard for themselves.

                                                                                            Now big corps are vying to be the best at peeping, owning, and trading on that technology.

                                                                                            -Dino

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                                                                                            • shiraz9944
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                                                                                              • Jan 2002
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by klinton
                                                                                              nah, i would actually trust EFF. you know, not everyone in this life & world is just for money.
                                                                                              but what do you mean that they actually DOaudit VPNs ? first time i heard about it...
                                                                                              actually I had idea to create independent body of vpn auditors (that could be run by some experts, leaded by for example people from eff or torproject etc.) - and they could audit any given vpn in any given time. audits would be unscheduled and usually done by surprise, like one time in month. those vpn providers that would be OK with that, would earn some certificate - that after some time could become standard in vpn industry....
                                                                                              Yes where have you been? Many many VPN's have come to be audited whether it was planned or was a move by law enforcement holding a warrant and for the most part they did exactly what they said on their page, vyprvpn is one that has a shady past on logging.

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                                                                                              • klinton
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                                                                                                • Apr 2003
                                                                                                • 8766

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                being audited on subpoenas and how they act with them - is different thing than being audited on vpn's network holes, backdors, logging - etc...........
                                                                                                Originally posted by shiraz9944
                                                                                                Yes where have you been? Many many VPN's have come to be audited whether it was planned or was a move by law enforcement holding a warrant and for the most part they did exactly what they said on their page, vyprvpn is one that has a shady past on logging.

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                                                                                                • shiraz9944
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I'm pretty sure if the FBI serves a VPN with a legit subpoena they will find ANY and all backdoor logging or any information of value and the only time that has happened to my knowledge was when the server was physically taken offline and manipulated by hand. I'm pretty sure snowden was a pretty big target for the US and he beat them with VPN's and TOR so I feel pretty safe using the same things. Quit being so paranoid, they don't care about you so quit aacting like they are after you lol.

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                                                                                                  • klinton
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                                                                                                    • Apr 2003
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    where did he even said that he was using vpns ? I doubt about it...
                                                                                                    iits not being paranoid, its being protected
                                                                                                    Originally posted by shiraz9944
                                                                                                    I'm pretty sure if the FBI serves a VPN with a legit subpoena they will find ANY and all backdoor logging or any information of value and the only time that has happened to my knowledge was when the server was physically taken offline and manipulated by hand. I'm pretty sure snowden was a pretty big target for the US and he beat them with VPN's and TOR so I feel pretty safe using the same things. Quit being so paranoid, they don't care about you so quit aacting like they are after you lol.

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