Sad answers of cheating affiliates

where are they from ?

Exactly this.

stupid people... it's even easier to get valid leads with spamming than going through that pathetic bullsht

I disagree I waste time with these guys, for these reasons:

1) It is my job to answer to affiliates, whatever the question or the matter, after all. Other admins talk with cam girls, developers fix the code, and I am supposed to reply to affiliates... Our best affiliates bringing lots of real signups never ask anything, they are super silent. Our top 3 affiliates generating thousands of signups never wrote us anything, really, they appear from nowhere sending tons of traffic and that's it. The only ones writing, are those with issues, who are not many, or who are generating themselves issues and cheating, who are the most. If I stop to talk with cheaters, I literally have nothing to do in my daily job.

2) Years ago when I started dealing with affiliates, I was replying quite quickly to cheaters: "you made fake signups / you used stolen credit cards / [whatever], so you will not be paid, please go doing this to some other site, bye". However, since I did not provided details of how I figured they was cheaters, they was replying with things like: "My signups are legit, you are the cheater, I will write in every forum that your program do not pay". Then, I learned to add enough details of their obvious cheating in the reply, such as a list of IP addresses with DNS reverse showing all proxies/vpn and hackish hosts (and in some cases, all using same IP, guess how smart...), use of same temp email provider for all accounts, use of a same pattern for account names or emails like bob001, bob002, bob003, bob004, and so on. This takes 5 minutes extra to reply because I have to copy & paste some stuff, but, totally avoids the type of reply: "My signups are legit and your program is the cheater I will tell everyone you do not pay". However, while some say "sorry" or simply do not reply... many others will say "a friend helped me to make signups and he is who cheated, poor me". Delegating the fake signups to the rogue friend who helped it is more common that you would expect. Then, the affiliate becomes the honest victim of the rogue friend or "coworker" who, for some reason, would not create an own account to cheat us, but instead do this inside the account of this other affiliate, who knows nothing about that is a proxy or vpn. Again, this type of excuse happens more often you can imagine. At this point, you hear sad stories of needing money to buy medicine for sick relatives, to complete studies or let a small kid complete studies, and things like that. At this stage I do agree with you guys, this is too much, and then I reply in sarcastic way.

If you know how to "spam", for example with a bot inside chat apps, for sure this is 100 times more effective use of the affiliate's time per signup, than doing account yourself one by one, having to change proxy and email every single time, solve captcha's and so on.

1. Personally I'd get you more and different tasks to fill up your time and put it to use in a more productive way.

2. Replying with detail is perfectly fine I am not saying to not do that. Starting back and forth mailing about it is what is a time waster imho. Like you say most of the times you get the sad stories and bs excuses anyways ;)

Just my 2 cents, to each his own of course, cheers

Dear Program Owner,
I made my affiliate account at Pho99, our islands only coffee house and internet provider. I put a sign up at the counter "Free account to see naked ladies - Pho99ladies.com" All my sign ups will come from same IP.
Thank you,

PS: Now now will go post on GFY that you are a cheater.

Different and more productive tasks, such as, read GFY?

Haha well that's exactly what I told one of our support girls ;)

I always thought you were the owner. Same thing I used to think about Roald when he was at FreeOnes.

this is bad,you do not sound professional.
stick to your part of business, tell them issue and thats it.

Remind when when I was cheated and lied to by my own lawyer. They expect me to keep maintaining good relationship.

I previously directed cams at met-art and I sure am not the owner of met-art

Same here I thought the same thing !

The less you waste time on a backstabber/cheater!!