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  • pimpmaster9000
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    • Dec 2011
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    Hot or Not Should we ban the USA from doing research?

    Should we ban the USA from doing research on anything at all? If for example the USA was to invent a cure for cancer, you could bet your right arm that it would cost 750.000$/pill and they will patent it and prevent others from selling it at realistic prices.

    Is it not in the worlds best interest to just ostracize US researchers, wipe our ass with any US contracts, and keep medicine all about healing people and not making it in to a business?

    What major cures has the USA brought to the world in the last 50 years? <complete silence *crickets chirping> so the counter argument that "research costs money" kinda sucks balls. All they made in the last 50 years was viagra

    Do you think other countries have the right to come up with an affordable solution to cure diseases and not be forced by US patents and corporate greed?

    Do we really want medicine and research to be all about money and corporations?

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    • L-Pink
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      Same shit every day ........ yawn.

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        • Harmon
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            • Sly
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              Research by the USA formed the Internet.

              /endthread
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                • brassmonkey
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                  who the fuk is "we" ????
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                        • pimpmaster9000
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                          #7
                          Originally posted by Sly
                          Research by the USA formed the Internet.

                          /endthread
                          Nobody would have come up with it at all if it was not for you?
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                            • Sly
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                              • Sep 2004
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                              #8
                              Originally posted by crucifissio
                              Nobody would have come up with it at all if it was not for you?
                              Winners take the spoils.

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                                • pimpmaster9000
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                                  Somebody voted USA


                                  like there is a plausible reason why a pill should cost 700$

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                                    • pimpmaster9000
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                                      definition of micro penis: voting USA on this poll but not giving an argument why you would want the USA to invent it and rape your asshole for 700$/pill

                                      how amusing is it that americans have to defend their plutocracy at the cost of their children going in to medical bankruptcy? answer: very very amusing
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                                        • pimpmaster9000
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                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by brassmonkey
                                          who the fuk is "we" ????
                                          everybody...do YOU for example want the USA or Cuba to find the cure for cancer? Its a simple question:

                                          Do you want your loved ones to pay 700$/pill or 50cents/pill

                                          Its a very simple question
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                                            • American Psycho
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                                              Suck my American dick you fuktard.

                                              You couldn't pay .50c or $700 so what do you care

                                              You are so retarded that you make your living from the Internet ,an American creation yet you start a thread about how there's not American inventions.

                                              That pretty much sums up your retarded anti American campaign.

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                                                • pimpmaster9000
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                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by American Psycho
                                                  Suck my American dick you fuktard.

                                                  You couldn't pay .50c or $700 so what do you care

                                                  You are so retarded that you make your living from the Internet ,an American creation yet you start a thread about how there's not American inventions.

                                                  That pretty much sums up your retarded anti American campaign.
                                                  Dude its a simple question and you did not answer

                                                  Could it be....that the truth hurts so much...that you are avoiding the question??

                                                  Go ahead and amuse me how you would like for your loved ones to pay 700$/pill LOL

                                                  oh and you did not state what groundbreaking invention in medicine the USA has made in the last 50 years, with all the tirllions and trillions you waste you must have a loooooong list of shit you could write....

                                                  Oh you guys are so pathetic LOL
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                                                        • newB
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                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                          blah blah blah
                                                          You're an idiot. Foreign manufacturers can and do manufacture their own generics - regardless of patents - all the time. It's called "compulsory licensing."

                                                          Also, out of curiosity I searched for "Serbian Inventions" and got https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ian_inventions

                                                          Wow, claiming Nikola Tesla would really have bolstered your argument if he had stayed there. But he didn't. Now where did he go, again? Oh, that's right. The US.

                                                          But you still have the strawberry tree - nobody would have figured out to hook up a solar panel to a mobile device.

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                                                            • woj
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                                                              so invest Billions into research yourself, discover something, and then you can do whatever you want with your discovery... give it away for free for anyone cares... there is nothing stopping you from doing that...
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                                                                • brassmonkey
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                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                  everybody...do YOU for example want the USA or Cuba to find the cure for cancer? Its a simple question:

                                                                  Do you want your loved ones to pay 700$/pill or 50cents/pill

                                                                  Its a very simple question
                                                                  cuba? 50 cents a pill? do you know the cost of hiring scientist and maintaining a lab? there are many other cost! sure go to a 3rd world for meds. don't cry when they give you some expired bullshit and it fuks you up.
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                                                                    • CaptainHowdy
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                                                                      This will be long ...

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                                                                        • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                          • Dec 2011
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                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by newB
                                                                          You're an idiot. Foreign manufacturers can and do manufacture their own generics - regardless of patents - all the time. It's called "compulsory licensing."

                                                                          Also, out of curiosity I searched for "Serbian Inventions" and got https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catego...ian_inventions

                                                                          Wow, claiming Nikola Tesla would really have bolstered your argument if he had stayed there. But he didn't. Now where did he go, again? Oh, that's right. The US.

                                                                          But you still have the strawberry tree - nobody would have figured out to hook up a solar panel to a mobile device.
                                                                          ok answer the question then, do you want the USA to invent the cure and you end up paying 700$pill or do you want cuba to make the cure and it costs 50cents? its a simple question...

                                                                          how amusing is it that none of you would want the USA to invent it for obvious reasons? LOL you guys cant even admit it LOL

                                                                          or at least name some ground breaking cures the multi trillion $$$ US researchers have found in the last 50 years? <sound of crickets chirping><complete silence><realization that its all a scam>
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                                                                            • Rochard
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                                                                              #20
                                                                              Originally posted by Sly
                                                                              Research by the USA formed the Internet.

                                                                              /endthread
                                                                              USA FUCK YEA!!!!

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                                                                                • Rochard
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                                                                                  • Dec 2001
                                                                                  • 75733
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                  everybody...do YOU for example want the USA or Cuba to find the cure for cancer? Its a simple question:

                                                                                  Do you want your loved ones to pay 700$/pill or 50cents/pill

                                                                                  Its a very simple question
                                                                                  I don't care who finds the cure so long as it's found.

                                                                                  The difference is the United States invests billions into finding the cure every year, and will find it much sooner than Cuba who invests five million into research.
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                                                                                    • georgeyw
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                                                                                      Originally posted by woj
                                                                                      so invest Billions into research yourself, discover something, and then you can do whatever you want with your discovery... give it away for free for anyone cares... there is nothing stopping you from doing that...
                                                                                      So do you think old mate increasing the price of a pill by whatever insane percentage, was ok? Profiting is fine, mega/super profits (price gouging) should end up in jail sentences

                                                                                      Especially if that price gouging can lead to deaths.
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                                                                                        • newB
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                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                          ok answer the question then, do you want the USA to invent the cure and you end up paying 700$pill or do you want cuba to make the cure and it costs 50cents? its a simple question...

                                                                                          how amusing is it that none of you would want the USA to invent it for obvious reasons? LOL you guys cant even admit it LOL
                                                                                          OK, I'll bite. If the scenario is exactly as you describe it, and those are the only two options, then of course I would want Cuba to develop the cure.

                                                                                          However, let's say that I have this cancer, and there are two treatment options available to me. A $700 pill that has been tested and approved by the FDA or a $0.50 pill that hasn't been tested and could be anything, really. I'll pay the $700, thank you.

                                                                                          Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                          or at least name some ground breaking cures the multi trillion $$$ US researchers have found in the last 50 years? <sound of crickets chirping><complete silence><realization that its all a scam>
                                                                                          Sofosbuvir by Pharmasset (Princeton, New Jersey), marketed since 2013, is hailed as the cure for Hepatitis.

                                                                                          Now, go eat a dick.

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                                                                                            • woj
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                                                                                              Originally posted by georgeyw
                                                                                              So do you think old mate increasing the price of a pill by whatever insane percentage, was ok? Profiting is fine, mega/super profits (price gouging) should end up in jail sentences

                                                                                              Especially if that price gouging can lead to deaths.
                                                                                              it sounds sleazy, but I don't know enough details to know if it was really price gauging or not... it's quite likely that the media is omitting some critical details to make the story sounds sensational...

                                                                                              ...but lets say some company does research on some drug, clinical trials, etc, and spends 25 Billlion in the process... I don't have any problem with them charging any amount they want, so they can recover their investment within reasonable amount of time and also reinvest the profits into research into new drugs while they are at it...
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                                                                                                • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                  I don't care who finds the cure so long as it's found.
                                                                                                  Of course you want the cure to be found as soon as possible but this was not the question was it?

                                                                                                  WHO do you want to find the cure first?<----------this is the question

                                                                                                  If somebody asked you if you want to pay 700$/pill or 50 cents you would not even think LOL

                                                                                                  I do not believe you do not care WHO finds it

                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                  The difference is the United States invests billions into finding the cure every year, and will find it much sooner than Cuba who invests five million into research.
                                                                                                  yes but those billions are diluted by US bullshit, if a hip replacement in the USA costs 40.000$ and only 7000$ in spain for example and free in the 3rd world then you can imagine how far the "research money" in the USA goes

                                                                                                  dude you do not even produce goods in the USA any more because your country has become such a rip off, why on earth do you think the USA is a good place to do research I do not know

                                                                                                  it is simply not cost effective to do anything in the USA, I am not arguing that the investors will not make a killing, I am arguing that from the perspective of normal people, its better for everybody if a cure for cancer is not invented in the USA

                                                                                                  now you either have something to show for the trillions, not billions like you say, that has been invested in medical research in the USA and you can list some major cures the USA has found in the last 50 years, or I am completely right and you are wrong LOL
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                                                                                                    • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by newB
                                                                                                      OK, I'll bite. If the scenario is exactly as you describe it, and those are the only two options, then of course I would want Cuba to develop the cure.

                                                                                                      However, let's say that I have this cancer, and there are two treatment options available to me. A $700 pill that has been tested and approved by the FDA or a $0.50 pill that hasn't been tested and could be anything, really. I'll pay the $700, thank you.
                                                                                                      This is just your arrogance and ignorance speaking, the USA is nothing special, you do not produce anything that others cant LOL china makes your stuff LOL

                                                                                                      The FDA seal of approval has more to do with $$$$ than with anything else LOL


                                                                                                      Originally posted by newB
                                                                                                      Sofosbuvir by Pharmasset (Princeton, New Jersey), marketed since 2013, is hailed as the cure for Hepatitis.

                                                                                                      Now, go eat a dick.
                                                                                                      thank you for the example, just what I was looking for:

                                                                                                      Cost and Medication Access: The wholesale list price for sofosbuvir is $1,000 per 400 mg pill. Accordingly, the cost for the sofosbuvir component in a 12-week treatment course is $84,000 (and the total regimen cost is depends on the other medications used in combination with sofosbuvir).

                                                                                                      1000$/pill
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                                                                                                        • georgeyw
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                                                                                                          Originally posted by woj
                                                                                                          it sounds sleazy, but I don't know enough details to know if it was really price gauging or not... it's quite likely that the media is omitting some critical details to make the story sounds sensational...

                                                                                                          ...but lets say some company does research on some drug, clinical trials, etc, and spends 25 Billlion in the process... I don't have any problem with them charging any amount they want, so they can recover their investment within reasonable amount of time and also reinvest the profits into research into new drugs while they are at it...
                                                                                                          You are right, it does sound sleazy and the media could be leaving out some information.

                                                                                                          Then there is the fact he has done it before and lowered the price after the frenzy. Don't get me wrong, i'm all for people making a profit, however there has to be a limit to how much they can gouge the price.

                                                                                                          I don't disagree with them recouping and profiting, however $750k a pa drugs should land the CEOs in the slammer IMO of course.
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                                                                                                            • wehateporn
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                                                                                                              but what about when Coca Cola funded millions of $ research which found that we all need more exercise

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                                                                                                                • Jel
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                                                                                                                  • Feb 2007
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                                                                                                                  OP is better than meatman at this

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                                                                                                                    • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                      • Dec 2011
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                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Jel
                                                                                                                      OP is better than meatman at this
                                                                                                                      Yes I am

                                                                                                                      Still waiting for some chubby to admit that they would like the USA to find the cure and not cuba LOL then I will ROFL

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                                                                                                                        • Rochard
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                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                          Of course you want the cure to be found as soon as possible but this was not the question was it?

                                                                                                                          WHO do you want to find the cure first?<----------this is the question

                                                                                                                          If somebody asked you if you want to pay 700$/pill or 50 cents you would not even think LOL

                                                                                                                          I do not believe you do not care WHO finds it



                                                                                                                          yes but those billions are diluted by US bullshit, if a hip replacement in the USA costs 40.000$ and only 7000$ in spain for example and free in the 3rd world then you can imagine how far the "research money" in the USA goes

                                                                                                                          dude you do not even produce goods in the USA any more because your country has become such a rip off, why on earth do you think the USA is a good place to do research I do not know

                                                                                                                          it is simply not cost effective to do anything in the USA, I am not arguing that the investors will not make a killing, I am arguing that from the perspective of normal people, its better for everybody if a cure for cancer is not invented in the USA

                                                                                                                          now you either have something to show for the trillions, not billions like you say, that has been invested in medical research in the USA and you can list some major cures the USA has found in the last 50 years, or I am completely right and you are wrong LOL
                                                                                                                          You right, it's not cost effective to do anything in the USA.

                                                                                                                          A few years ago my mother needed a rather simple, common, operation. It would have cost her $20k here in the US, but instead she flew out of the country, paid half, got a vacation out of it, and her recovery room over looked the ocean.
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                                                                                                                            • sandman!
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                                                                                                                              • Mar 2001
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                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Sly
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                                                                                                                                  Voted Cuba because VIVA LA REVOLUCION

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                                                                                                                                    • Mr Pheer
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                                                                                                                                        • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2011
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                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                          You right, it's not cost effective to do anything in the USA.

                                                                                                                                          A few years ago my mother needed a rather simple, common, operation. It would have cost her $20k here in the US, but instead she flew out of the country, paid half, got a vacation out of it, and her recovery room over looked the ocean.
                                                                                                                                          Yes you have predatory health care. It must be terrible to be sick and not have money in the USA.

                                                                                                                                          "Pay up or die" is something you would expect to hear from an armed robber and not a doctor. I hope your healthcare never spreads to other countries. I hope you guys get freedom one day I really do

                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Sandman
                                                                                                                                          Winner takes the spoils
                                                                                                                                          How the fuck does having to pay 1000$/tab make you a winner? How exactly do you profit from it? Are you the owner of some pharmaceutical company? fuck no LOL

                                                                                                                                          Please be sure to explain how you are the winner and what the fuck YOU have to do with the spoils

                                                                                                                                          winner takes the spoils LOL how pathetic, is everybody in the USA conditioned to lick corporate butt? you guys are north korea, your gov makes a system where 1000$/pill is normal and you defend it?

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                                                                                                                                            • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                                              Ok so how amusing is it that no american will write "I want the USA to find the cure and not cuba because: ****reasons here****"

                                                                                                                                              Answer: very very amusing LOLOLOLOL

                                                                                                                                              Tell me, do you taste the shit when you lick your corporate governments asshole or has the taste been blocked out by your brain by now?


                                                                                                                                              1000$/tab

                                                                                                                                              Ok so unless somebody can give me a reasonable answer I will go on and conclude that no american wants the USA to find the cure because it is not in his interest


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                                                                                                                                                • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                                                                  Cuba will never invent anything, beyond a cool drink or dance.

                                                                                                                                                  So it's left to a few Countries to do the job. Wait until Americans are pay $10,000 a pill for a Chinese invented pill. While China produces pirated pills for sale.

                                                                                                                                                  No one is forced to buy the pills. And before they were invented no one had the option. Stop buying them, saying the price is extortionate, and the price will plummet.



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                                                                                                                                                    • dyna mo
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                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2008
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                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                                                                      You right, it's not cost effective to do anything in the USA.

                                                                                                                                                      A few years ago my mother needed a rather simple, common, operation. It would have cost her $20k here in the US, but instead she flew out of the country, paid half, got a vacation out of it, and her recovery room over looked the ocean.
                                                                                                                                                      why don't you get your mom some health insurance? it's also not accurate to make sweeping generalizations that "it's not cost-effective to do anything in the USA" based on your mom not having insurance.

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                                                                                                                                                        • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                                                          • 26732
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                          Cuba will never invent anything, beyond a cool drink or dance.

                                                                                                                                                          So it's left to a few Countries to do the job. Wait until Americans are pay $10,000 a pill for a Chinese invented pill. While China produces pirated pills for sale.

                                                                                                                                                          No one is forced to buy the pills. And before they were invented no one had the option. Stop buying them, saying the price is extortionate, and the price will plummet.
                                                                                                                                                          This is not true. Cuba has a working vaccine against cancer, it is not almighty but it works in most cases. Keep in mind that cuba is a 3rd world shit hole under mafia sanctions from the USA for almost half a century. They have cured vitiligo as well, this is not bad for a 3rd world shit hole.

                                                                                                                                                          As for "do not buy if you do not like" well...if you are dying you pretty much have no choice but to buy...its medicine...not some worthless I crap...

                                                                                                                                                          <sarcasm>Also look at the long list of stuff the USA has invented in medicine in the last 50 years </sarcasm>
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                                                                                                                                                            • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                              just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                              • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                              • 68184
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              dumbfuck op, heads-up:::::::;

                                                                                                                                                              Of almost 3,000 articles published in biomedical research in 2009, 1,169, or 40%, came from the United States. As the line graph below demonstrates (that’s the number of publications on the Y axis, and the year of publication on the X axis), the output of every other single country in the world is dwarfed by what America produces. The closest contender is Great Britain, which comes in at about 300 articles. (Per the comments below, I’m waiting for more explanation of these numbers.)



                                                                                                                                                              It’s certainly possible that the U.S. is publishing entirely low quality data, but another data point, the citation score, seems to indicate that isn’t true. The citation score is the number of times an average paper was referenced by other scientific papers. In the graph below, the Y axis is the citation score and the X axis is the number of publications in total.



                                                                                                                                                              The Most Innovative Countries In Biology And Medicine

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                                                                                                                                                                • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                                                                  • 26732
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                  why don't you get your mom some health insurance? it's also not accurate to make sweeping generalizations that "it's not cost-effective to do anything in the USA" based on your mom not having insurance.
                                                                                                                                                                  one should not have to insure against robbery LOL

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                                                                                                                                                                    • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2011
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                      dumbfuck op, heads-up:::::::;

                                                                                                                                                                      Of almost 3,000 articles published in biomedical research in 2009, 1,169, or 40%, came from the United States. As the line graph below demonstrates (that?s the number of publications on the Y axis, and the year of publication on the X axis), the output of every other single country in the world is dwarfed by what America produces. The closest contender is Great Britain, which comes in at about 300 articles. (Per the comments below, I?m waiting for more explanation of these numbers.)


                                                                                                                                                                      It?s certainly possible that the U.S. is publishing entirely low quality data, but another data point, the citation score, seems to indicate that isn?t true. The citation score is the number of times an average paper was referenced by other scientific papers. In the graph below, the Y axis is the citation score and the X axis is the number of publications in total.

                                                                                                                                                                      The Most Innovative Countries In Biology And Medicine[/url]
                                                                                                                                                                      ok so you make a lot of publications, good for you, its decent of you to admit that lots of publications do not mean high quality data, this is a huge step for you

                                                                                                                                                                      Now you should have no trouble at all listing what diseases the USA has cured in the last 50 years?
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                                                                                                                                                                        • Paul Markham
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                                                                                                                                                                          • Jun 2001
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                                                                          This is not true. Cuba has a working vaccine against cancer, it is not almighty but it works in most cases. Keep in mind that cuba is a 3rd world shit hole under mafia sanctions from the USA for almost half a century. They have cured vitiligo as well, this is not bad for a 3rd world shit hole.

                                                                                                                                                                          As for "do not buy if you do not like" well...if you are dying you pretty much have no choice but to buy...its medicine...not some worthless I crap...

                                                                                                                                                                          <sarcasm>Also look at the long list of stuff the USA has invented in medicine in the last 50 years </sarcasm>
                                                                                                                                                                          I will wait and see what Cube discovers. As for not having a choice, yes you do. Which is better than not discovering a cure and having no choice.

                                                                                                                                                                          Unlike you, I have faced this choice. Still being in a country that doesn't rip off it's citizens for healthcare, my costs were far lower.



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                                                                                                                                                                            • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                                              Too old to care
                                                                                                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                                                                              • 52942
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                                                                              one should not have to insure against robbery LOL
                                                                                                                                                                              It depends who runs the insurance schemes. Private enterprise or the Government. Americans don't have the choice. They are lumbered with it being the the guy in the picture below.



                                                                                                                                                                              If a President put it to the people, they would vote overwhelmingly to Nationalise Healthcare. Unless too stupid to realise they would be far better off. As they will never be given the choice, never vote for politicians who will give them the choice, it's hypothetical.

                                                                                                                                                                              A country gets the government it deserves.



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                                                                                                                                                                                • pimpmaster9000
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                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2011
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                                                                                                                  If a President put it to the people, they would vote overwhelmingly to Nationalise Healthcare. Unless too stupid to realise they would be far better off. As they will never be given the choice, never vote for politicians who will give them the choice, it's hypothetical.

                                                                                                                                                                                  A country gets the government it deserves.
                                                                                                                                                                                  its fascinating to see so many americans trying to defend the 1000$/pill model, you have to give it to the US gov. they are masters in brain wash....I bet the 1000$ pill gets produced in china LOL

                                                                                                                                                                                  north america and north korea are just living in a fantasy world of their own and will defend their masters to the very end
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                      just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                                      • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                                                                                      ok so you make a lot of publications, good for you, its decent of you to admit that lots of publications do not mean high quality data, this is a huge step for you

                                                                                                                                                                                      Now you should have no trouble at all listing what diseases the USA has cured in the last 50 years?
                                                                                                                                                                                      dumbfuck, where the fuck do you think research gets communicated? in fucking medical research journals, dumbfuck.

                                                                                                                                                                                      and yes, according to the study, it is high quality data and that's why i also included that fucking statistic in my post. but you're too much of a dumbfuckwad to figure that out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • pimpmaster9000
                                                                                                                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2011
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 26732
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                          dumbfuck, where the fuck do you think research gets communicated? in fucking medical research journals, dumbfuck.

                                                                                                                                                                                          and yes, according to the study, it is high quality data and that's why i also included that fucking statistic in my post. but you're too much of a dumbfuckwad to figure that out.
                                                                                                                                                                                          ok so you will not have a problem listing some cures for diseases that the USA has found in the last 50 years...I mean all them papers and billions of $$$ you must have something to show for it other than "we get cited in papers"

                                                                                                                                                                                          other than the 1000$/pill hep cure what do you have to show for all them billions? its a fair question
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                                                                                                                                                                                            • TheMoneyMan
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                                                                                                                                                                                              • Oct 2012
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              While the costs are crazy and many are driven for profit, a lot of good still comes from US research.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • dyna mo
                                                                                                                                                                                                  just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Dec 2008
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 68184
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by crucifissio
                                                                                                                                                                                                  ok so you will not have a problem listing some cures for diseases that the USA has found in the last 50 years...I mean all them papers and billions of $$$ you must have something to show for it other than "we get cited in papers"

                                                                                                                                                                                                  other than the 1000$/pill hep cure what do you have to show for all them billions? its a fair question
                                                                                                                                                                                                  dumbfuckwad, i'm speaking to the topic- "banning USA from research". i'm not defending USA. the facts i posted clearly show the USA leads the world in high quality medical research, by far. Cuba isn't even on the list.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  gofuckyouself.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • candyflip
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Carpe Visio
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • Jul 2002
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Your shithole country hasn't and won't contribute anything anyhow, so why do you care?

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Spend you some brain.
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