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I don't presume to try and guess what the founding fathers would have thought of social issues. Quite frankly they were very liberal minded on those matters. Especially Jefferson and Ben Franklin.
What I DO know is that they believed in a limited federal govt. and the citizens having control over their own lives.
If you don't believe that and think the govt. is supposed to be a "nanny state" and fund everything for people...that is your right.
But being a smartass to me and trying to say I'm "channeling" the founding fathers so you can feel good about your opinion is just stupid.
Our country was founded on certain enduring principals of thought.
Yes, the details change over time. But the core base of it remains true. And I do believe that the Founding Fathers would be disgusted by what has happened to their vision of a "New World Order" in which the people would be in charge as opposed to being ruled over by the govt.-Robbie
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One thing I can say with certainty is that you are 100% dead wrong in saying I 'tried' to say you were channelling the founding fathers 'so i could fell good about my opinion'. What makes you think I was trying to feel good about my opinion? Hell, I'm not even sure what my motivation was in making the comment. Maybe I was just trying to pass the time and make a little conversation, it's really hard to say, but I do know for a fact that it was not 'so I could feel good about my opinion'. Making the comment had absolutely no bearing whatsoever on 'how I feel about my opinion', whatever that opinion may be. So you made a blatantly incorrect assumption as to the reasoning behind my statement. That is a fact. Now tell me, if in a conversation including both you and I on a shared forum in 2015, you cannot make a correct assumption as to what I am saying, how am I or is anyone supposed to believe that you'd be able to correctly interpret what the founding fathers said over 200 years ago in what was a vastly different culture? And even if you could, why would it matter?I don't presume to try and guess what the founding fathers would have thought of social issues. Quite frankly they were very liberal minded on those matters. Especially Jefferson and Ben Franklin.
What I DO know is that they believed in a limited federal govt. and the citizens having control over their own lives.
If you don't believe that and think the govt. is supposed to be a "nanny state" and fund everything for people...that is your right.
But being a smartass to me and trying to say I'm "channeling" the founding fathers so you can feel good about your opinion is just stupid.
Our country was founded on certain enduring principals of thought.
Yes, the details change over time. But the core base of it remains true. And I do believe that the Founding Fathers would be disgusted by what has happened to their vision of a "New World Order" in which the people would be in charge as opposed to being ruled over by the govt.

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That's ironic.
This is exactly what this discussion is all about - letting women have controls over their body. Not trying to shut down Planned Parenthood, who, in the ultimate irony, is EXACTLY what Planned Parenthood does. Planned Parenthood doesn't say "Oh, you got knocked up, let's have an abortion". Planned Parenthood helps young mothers make educated decisions, and help with breast and cervical cancer screening, HIV screening and counseling,and contraception.
Why would anyone want to shut down that down or not fund them?Herschel Savage
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jimmycooper I have no fucking idea what you are trying to say. lol
And I don't really give a damn either. You made a smartass comment to me in which YOU assumed things about me.
I could really give a damn what you think about my thoughts. Hope that's good enough for you.
I don't want to argue with you, but then again...I didn't enter a discussion and make a post trying to make you look foolish. You did that to me for absolutely no reason.
I have said what I believe. I am for smaller govt., more freedom, less govt. telling us how to live our lives, and less of the govt. invading other countries and in a constant state of war.
Pretty sure my feelings on govt. are in the same ballpark as the men who founded our country and wrote the constitution.
Doesn't matter if you don't think so. Doesn't matter if you think that the Founding Fathers would be perfectly happy with the govt. we have now.
I am more than happy to discuss issues and debate, and even bust balls back and forth. I'm just a little perplexed that you decided to get all personal with me out of the blue and try to insinuate something about me that isn't true.-Robbie
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I have you on ignore...but decided to look at what you typed.That's ironic.
This is exactly what this discussion is all about - letting women have controls over their body. Not trying to shut down Planned Parenthood, who, in the ultimate irony, is EXACTLY what Planned Parenthood does. Planned Parenthood doesn't say "Oh, you got knocked up, let's have an abortion". Planned Parenthood helps young mothers make educated decisions, and help with breast and cervical cancer screening, HIV screening and counseling,and contraception.
Why would anyone want to shut down that down or not fund them?
Number one: The Federal Govt. has no business funding these types of things. I don't care what they do.
Also...Planned Parenthood does indeed "help" with breast cancer. You know how they "help"? Of course you don't. Because you haven't bothered to use Google to find out.
They REFER women to a doctor to get a mammogram. Planned Parenthood doesn't do those.
In other words...most women would simply ask their own gynecologist who to see OR do search for facilities that do mammograms. BUT...some women do go to Planned Parenthood under the mistaken idea that they do them, then they get sent to a place that actually DOES it.
And yes...they still have to use their ObamaCare to pay for it.
Bottom line is...is Planned Parenthood a "good" thing. Yeah, I think so.
Should the taxpayers being paying for it? Hell no. Our govt. not only should not pay for it, but the govt. has an 18 TRILLION dollar debt and needs to stop spending money.-Robbie
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The funny thing about his resignation, is its now very clear (as if it wasn't already to anyone with a brain) that the Republican Party is completely dysfunctional. In fact, I can remember Robbie and a few other far right radicals here on GFY tell everyone how the govt shut down was Obama's fault and generally how anytime he' couldn't come to agreement with Republicans it was his fault.. (It's never a 2 way street, Republicans have no blame in Robbie's world only Obama, Obama)
This just shows how out of touch with reality Robbie is, as even the Republican Party can't work with one another, much less can Obama work with them. It seems half the Republicans are in la la land with Robbie and can't find their head from their asshole..
Meanwhile just like in this topic, Robbie can't stop whining about Obama, planned parenthood or what ever the current right wing fake outrage is for this month. It's welcome to Robbie's world, where what ever the right whine of the week is, gets blamed for everything..
I'm betting Robbie stands outside of post offices on weekend carrying the Obama with the Hitler mustache posters...In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment
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Damn you are obsessed with me aren't you crockett. lol
"far right radical"? LOL!
Yeah, that's me...the guy who is pro-choice, anti-drug war, and an actual pornographer.
"crockett science" at it's finest!-Robbie
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Crockett my bro have you ever met a real far right radical? In real life? I have, and they are not anything like Robbie or anyone on this board (based solely on what is posted). I consider you a somewhat reasonable, mid-stream, average liberal based on your positions and debate methodology. Have you ever met a hard-core far left radical? Seek either one out sometime, and let us know what you think.The funny thing about his resignation, is its now very clear (as if it wasn't already to anyone with a brain) that the Republican Party is completely dysfunctional. In fact, I can remember Robbie and a few other far right radicals here on GFY tell everyone how the govt shut down was Obama's fault and generally how anytime he' couldn't come to agreement with Republicans it was his fault.. (It's never a 2 way street, Republicans have no blame in Robbie's world only Obama, Obama)
This just shows how out of touch with reality Robbie is, as even the Republican Party can't work with one another, much less can Obama work with them. It seems half the Republicans are in la la land with Robbie and can't find their head from their asshole..
Meanwhile just like in this topic, Robbie can't stop whining about Obama, planned parenthood or what ever the current right wing fake outrage is for this month. It's welcome to Robbie's world, where what ever the right whine of the week is, gets blamed for everything..
I'm betting Robbie stands outside of post offices on weekend carrying the Obama with the Hitler mustache posters...Comment
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Time to resign
Seems the radical right has gotten too much for him and instead of letting them pressure him into a govt shut down he's chosen to resign......And promote with best!
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Wait a minute...I thought that ObamaCare covered everybody. If you were "too poor" to pay for you own insurance...the govt. subsidizes it for you.
And there was a crazy thing that people used to believe back when I was young: It was called "Personal responsibility".
What a strange concept.
People could actually use birth control methods instead of just fucking bareback with no birth control pill or condom. And then NOT have children that they can't afford.
Then there would be zero chance of anybody having to "suffer" as you put it.
But then...they wouldn't be able to get those govt. checks for those children now would they?
Also...I would like to point out that the govt. de-funding Planned Parenthood would NOT "deep six" it.
The company makes plenty of money and would still continue to operate just fine. Some of the high paid executives of Planned Parenthood might have to scale back their huge salaries and their lifestyle a bit though.
Unfortunately, GregE is correct. ACA fails to help people in the "donut hole" of having too much for welfare and too little for ACA subsidy. For example, a writer who just got a $10k advance for a book would have too much cash on hand for most welfare programs, but, without additional income being assured that year, would not qualify for subsidized insurance.Comment
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Many of the "welfare" style programs seem to be set up in a similar fashion.Unfortunately, GregE is correct. ACA fails to help people in the "donut hole" of having too much for welfare and too little for ACA subsidy. For example, a writer who just got a $10k advance for a book would have too much cash on hand for most welfare programs, but, without additional income being assured that year, would not qualify for subsidized insurance.
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Radical Right or Radical left doesn't have to consume everything about someone, they can be normal in most aspects then have completely off the wall ideas about certain topics..Crockett my bro have you ever met a real far right radical? In real life? I have, and they are not anything like Robbie or anyone on this board (based solely on what is posted). I consider you a somewhat reasonable, mid-stream, average liberal based on your positions and debate methodology. Have you ever met a hard-core far left radical? Seek either one out sometime, and let us know what you think.
Not every person who is a radical right wingers is running around playing GiJoe with his local militia preparing for when Obama sends FEMA to put them in camps and take away their guns..
Radical Right or left is also a person's views.. Example Ted Cruze is one of the Radical Right members in Congress. Sure he is t crazy on every issue, but yes he certainly is on quite a few..
The entire Benghazi ordeal, the non stop trying to do away with Obamacare.. The fake outrage because Hillary used her own mail server.. The denial of global warming ect..ect..This is all the mindset of radical right wingers.
Robbie is one of the first in line to jump on the bandwagon of every new right wing outrage.
Example of radical left wingers would be the people who want to ban all guns or groups like peta.
Obviously you don't have to run around the woods naked saving trees or throw paint on woman in fur coats to have radical left wing views.. Just the same as you don't have to be some anti govt loon wearing camouflage and carrying a m16 to be a radical right wing views
The diffrence of the two, is the radical right wing views have become mainstream within the Republican Party and their so called independent fan boys.. You don't see the same radicalization of the left.In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.Comment



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