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  • Robbie
    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
    • Aug 2002
    • 20960

    #46
    Originally posted by jimmycooper
    Anyone have a metric to calculate the estimated net increase of low income black and mexican babies should PP be defunded?
    None. We have ObamaCare for everyone now. There is no need for the Feds to be funding a private business. Especially now with ObamaCare.
    -Robbie
    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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    • jimmycooper
      Confirmed User
      • May 2010
      • 4016

      #47
      Originally posted by dyna mo
      it's against the law for pp to use government funds for abortions.
      Originally posted by Robbie
      None. We have ObamaCare for everyone now. There is no need for the Feds to be funding a private business. Especially now with ObamaCare.
      Lol. Shows how much attention I've been paying to the issue. Still though, my gut tells me that defunding will somehow result in more blacks and mexicans. Oh well, who knows.

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      • AmeliaG
        Too lazy to set a custom title
        • Jan 2003
        • 10662

        #48
        Originally posted by Robbie
        None. We have ObamaCare for everyone now. There is no need for the Feds to be funding a private business. Especially now with ObamaCare.
        If ACA were socialized universal healthcare, that would be true, but the so-called "donut holes" mean that millions of Americans do not qualify for ACA coverage. Yeah, your insurance went up, but that was to make the insurance billionaires richer, not to help people.

        Plus prescriptions prices have gone up so much now that copays with insurance now often exceed cash patient prices of just a few years ago.
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        • Rochard
          Jägermeister Test Pilot
          • Dec 2001
          • 75733

          #49
          Originally posted by dyna mo
          i didn't lose jack shit, i'm not competing with you. that video thread was about fiorini and her video, not about the issue i mentioned above which is 1. roe v wade has not one thing to do with defunding pp and 2) my orignal comment here was about needless government spending.


          i couldn't give a shit about beliefs, my point goes to wasteful government spending. i stated my view, Americans don't need to be spending millions of dollars on planned parenthood when pp would do just fine without the majority of the funding. spin my view any way you want and bump any thread you're confused about.
          So funding financial support for young women who are knocked up is wasteful spending?

          The Republican party is getting it's panties in a bunch over an issue that has been decided a decades ago. What is the best possible outcome here? I only see three possible outcomes. (1) They defund Planned Parenthood, which results in a lot of young women having children out of wedlock and no support for them, (2) They shut down the government (again), and then (3) the fail to defund Planned Parent hood and look like idiots again.

          The Republican party continues to back itself into corners which only has bad endings for them. Their support for this dumb county clerk is another perfect example. There is only two endings for this women - she either goes back to jail or she allows gay marriages, either of which is a fail for those who support her.

          Another example is Obamacare. Instead of fixing it, the Republican party vowed to destroy it. Again, this goes one of two ways and either way the Republican party comes out with mud on their face - Either they win and kill Obamacare resulting in tens of millions of people loosing their healthcare, or they fail to kill Obamacare and look stupid in the process.

          The Republican party needs to stop backing itself into corners where they come out as losers. The Republican party - and the American population in general - should not even be discussing defunding a group that supports young women who need help the most.
          Herschel Savage
          Brooklyn, NY

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          • dyna mo
            just a fucking jerk
            • Dec 2008
            • 68184

            #50
            Rochatd, you can't read and think this is about beating me at something so I'm not at all inclined to waste my time with all that.

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            • Rochard
              Jägermeister Test Pilot
              • Dec 2001
              • 75733

              #51
              And if I understand correctly, the Republicans just lost this battle, and Planned Parenthood will be funded. Once again the Republican party invested time, effort, money, and political capital, in a effort they shouldn't have even bothered with.... And lost.
              Herschel Savage
              Brooklyn, NY

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              • ilnjscb
                Confirmed User
                • Jun 2009
                • 8972

                #52
                John Boehner was an unpopular man within his own party. What always amazes me is how hardcore dems say things like "he should have just gotten out of the way of progress" i.e. that he should have supported the dems party line.

                Think a minute - if he had, would he ever have been elected, much less allowed to be speaker? The members of his party expect him to fight for *their* ideals.

                His inability to effectively counter the dems, when he had a clear, large majority in the house and a majority in the senate was what made him unpopular. Today the speaker can't be a backroom drinker like Boehner - he (or she) needs to be a mini-president.

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                • Mutt
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 34431

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Robbie
                  Let's check "crockett science" against reality:
                  It is the JOB of the Congress to use the power of funding to keep the executive branch in check.

                  What happened the last time they did their job and the govt. "shut down" (which isn't really what happens)?
                  What did the "right wing radicals" learn?

                  Well...the shut down occurred in 2013. In 2014 the Republicans gained even more seats in the House AND seized control of the Senate for full power in the legislative branch.

                  You see crockett...that people were angry at Republicans for actually doing what the founding fathers designed Congress to have the power to do, is nothing more than a fable fabricated by the Democrat Party. The Republicans were REWARDED in the very next election even though all the talking heads on CNN and MSNBC predicted they would be punished at the polls.

                  That is what happens when you actually DO what you promise when elected.
                  Not saying I agree with the things they promised and that people voted them in to do. But that IS their job. To do the will of the people.
                  Not the will of the wacko fake liberal left minority, or the will of the news channels.

                  I don't personally believe the Federal Govt. should be funding ANY private enterprise.
                  And especially any health related one now that the almighty ObamaCare is in full effect.
                  Nobody NEEDS that federal funding anymore. Everybody has to have ObamaCare insurance now and so any woman that wants to go to Planned Parenthood has it paid for with their insurance.

                  End of story.
                  Stop being disingenuous. This has NOTHING to do with small government. It's an anti-abortion crusade.

                  The people Planned Parenthood reaches out to don't have family doctors they've been seeing for years that they can confide in whether they're covered by Obamacare or not. These kids know that Planned Parenthood provides counseling for exactly their situations, they can reach out to PP without embarrassment or shame.

                  And stop invoking the Founding Fathers, they were extremely rational men that you insult with your irrational wacko belief that if they were resurrected from their graves that they would think and behave as if they were still stuck in the 18th century.
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                  • 2MuchMark
                    Mark of 2Much.net
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 50966

                    #54
                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                    not a quick enough edit, fuckwad.



                    Meh..... I think maybe its time I and others went easier on you, cupcake. You're clearly delusional, and I think maybe you need our help.

                    Here's a hug.

                    {{ u }}

                    Have a nice day.

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                    • 2MuchMark
                      Mark of 2Much.net
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 50966

                      #55
                      Originally posted by dyna mo
                      Rochatd, you can't read and think this is about beating me at something so I'm not at all inclined to waste my time with all that.
                      See, that's a non-answer, cupcake. Rochard made a great point. You should try admitting you're wrong or you made a mistake once in a while. Only once you lose the hate, and especially the hate you feel for yourself, can you truly begin to love again.

                      Fa la la.... ;)

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                      • dyna mo
                        just a fucking jerk
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 68184

                        #56
                        i wasn't wrong dipshit.

                        here's my comment again, i'm quoting it to rub your fuckwad nose in it because it has nothing to do with abortions or republicans.

                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                        i'm sure there were some crocodile tears involved.

                        nevertheless, Americans don't need to be spending $500 million a year on planned parenthood. pp would do just fine without the funding.

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                        • dyna mo
                          just a fucking jerk
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 68184

                          #57
                          Originally posted by MarkPrince
                          Meh..... I think maybe its time I and others went easier on you, cupcake. You're clearly delusional, and I think maybe you need our help.

                          Here's a hug.

                          {{ u }}

                          Have a nice day.
                          fuck you fuckwad

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                          • jimmycooper
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2010
                            • 4016

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Mutt
                            Stop being disingenuous. This has NOTHING to do with small government. It's an anti-abortion crusade.

                            The people Planned Parenthood reaches out to don't have family doctors they've been seeing for years that they can confide in whether they're covered by Obamacare or not. These kids know that Planned Parenthood provides counseling for exactly their situations, they can reach out to PP without embarrassment or shame.

                            And stop invoking the Founding Fathers, they were extremely rational men that you insult with your irrational wacko belief that if they were resurrected from their graves that they would think and behave as if they were still stuck in the 18th century.

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                            • dyna mo
                              just a fucking jerk
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 68184

                              #59
                              ftr: title X, for those who don't have a doctor or not covered under obamacare:::::::::::::::::::::::

                              The Title X Family Planning Program, officially known as Public Law 91-572 or “Population Research and Voluntary Family Planning Programs” was enacted under President Richard Nixon in 1970 as part of the Public Health Service Act.

                              Title X is the only federal grant program dedicated solely to providing individuals with comprehensive family planning and related preventive health services. Title X is legally designed to prioritize the needs of low-income families or uninsured people (including those who are not eligible for Medicaid) who might not otherwise have access to these health care services.

                              These services are provided to low-income and uninsured individuals at reduced or no cost. Its overall purpose is to promote positive birth outcomes and healthy families by allowing individuals to decide the number and spacing of their children. The other health services provided in Title X-funded clinics are integral in achieving this objective.

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                              • Robbie
                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 20960

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Mutt
                                Stop being disingenuous. This has NOTHING to do with small government. It's an anti-abortion crusade.

                                The people Planned Parenthood reaches out to don't have family doctors they've been seeing for years that they can confide in whether they're covered by Obamacare or not. These kids know that Planned Parenthood provides counseling for exactly their situations, they can reach out to PP without embarrassment or shame.

                                And stop invoking the Founding Fathers, they were extremely rational men that you insult with your irrational wacko belief that if they were resurrected from their graves that they would think and behave as if they were still stuck in the 18th century.
                                You think I have "wacko" beliefs?

                                The Founding Fathers were far more intelligent than you are and would have a fit if they saw how govt. is controlling our lives.

                                I do agree that the defunding of Planned Parenthood is based on the right wing political gains with religious wacko's.

                                But that has nothing to do with the core that the govt. had no business funding it in the first place. It's a private business.
                                And it makes lots of money all on it's own and the people running it are making more money in a year than you have made in the last ten years.

                                It's not a charity. The leaders of Planned Parenthood pay themselves nice big salary's.

                                The taxpayers shouldn't be paying that. And the federal govt. should stick to doing what was laid out in the constitution and not try to have their hands in everything.
                                -Robbie
                                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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