John Boehner resigned from Congress

I was thinking that... did you watch his address to congress? Hey kinda stuck it to them... in a very nice Popey way of course... I liked what he said about Climate change too, and right after he said it, they cut to crazy Senator James Inhofe. I'm an atheist, but I think this Pope is a pretty freakin' awesome pope.


Dude shut the fuck up - you have no idea what you're talking about. You're the one who made the statement and yet you demand Far-L to do the research for you? Fuck off. Prove your point or STFU.


That's entirely possible, but at this point, anyone will be better than the crying tan man.

Fair enough. My apologies and will try again.

I personally believe you are very mistaken to have the opinion, which I believe is essentially misinformed, that PP is not worthy of federal budget support. In so far as if you had the benefit of a complete perspective of the benefits of Planned Parenthood's services, then I feel you would probably be very supportive. I urge you to learn more about Planned Parenthood.

How's that?

fuck off you stupid piece of shit canaduhian. i posted my fucking view on the subject without stepping on anybody's toes.

i appreciate that. and no worries. i have no problem getting facts right. as you can see from my post above, even politifact concluded that pp operates in excess profits, along with their spending millions on political campaigns as shown in the other link i provided.

i don't think that's a fair use of tax payer dollars. and from everything i had read on the matter, pp's public accounting leaves much to be sorted out and is quite vague.

no wonder you're afraid of getting shot because of the mean-spirited shit you say to people. you stupid fuckwad.

Not a fan of his in general, but the guy really was in a no win position. I think he would have made compromises, like any good Republican speaker of the House with a Democratic president -- but these are insane times. The ultra right wing pricks make it impossible to wrangle votes needed to get even the most basic, routine government business done.

Something is seriously wrong with our government, more specifically with the Republican party. When they don't get their way they cry and pout like little children. This has been one massive failure after the other.

"We don't like what is happening so we are going to shut down the government - again". How about we try this on for size: The moment our government shuts down, every senator and congressman is out of a job and unable to run in the next election.

I'm trying to convince myself that I am not a Democrat, but I cannot understand the Republican party at all.

Obamacare is a great example. It was a Republican idea (Romneycare really), and instead of trying to work together for the common good for all Americans, the Republican party spent four years trying to kill it - even after it was a law. Don't fight it, fix it, and then claim it as your own. The end result is years wasted, Obamacare is the law of the land, more Americans than ever before have insurance, and the Republicans look bad.

Now their cause is abortion. What, what? This shit again? This shit was decided by the Supreme Court decades ago, and Roe vs Wade is the law. But someone who doesn't agree with it makes a fake propaganda video and suddenly we are trying to deny women childbirth medical care and threatening to shut down the government over this? Really?

Then we have the plan to beat Hillary. OMG LOL. Let's have yet another million dollar investigation into Benghazi, or let's talk some more about her email which seems to have been more secure than the White House's email.

The plan for the Republicans is very, very simple: They need to court the Hispanic vote and women. Instead their front runner opened up his campaign with "Mexicans are rapists" and then picked fights with every women he could while calling them bimbos.

roe v wade has nothing to do with planned parenthood.




planned parenthood spends $1.5 million on Obama campaign

Planned Paenthood Action Fund Endorses President Obama and Launches Large Ad Buy in Key Swing Markets, Educating Voters About Mitt Romney's Out-of-Touch and Harmful Positions on Women's Health - Planned Parenthood Action Center

planned parenthood has >$1 billion in assets
ISSUU - Planned Parenthood 2013-2014 Annual Report by Planned Parenthood Action Fund

in an age of out of control government spending, i see no problems with cutting pp funding from taxes to an appropriate amount for a non-profit.

"...in March, a Government Accountability Office (GAO) report examined three years of funding for PP and other abortion groups. That report found state and federal partnerships, such as Medicaid and CHIP, spent $1.2 billion on programs and grants to Planned Parenthood, including about $401 million in 2012. However, this data doesn’t assist in fully defunding Planned Parenthood, because nobody knows who is spending what. From an article I wrote in March: “GAO’s Director of Health Care, Dr. Marcia G. Crosse, told LifeSiteNews that ‘we are not able to differentiate what portion of that funding is federal, and what portion is state funds. And the contributions to those programs vary by state.’”

While the Family Research Council (FRC) used the GAO report to calculate that more than $96 million came to PP exclusively from the feds in the form of Title X funding, that is only a fraction of the amount of federal funding PP affiliates and clinics receive. Arina Grossu, director of the FRC’s Center for Human Dignity, asked the right question in an e-mail to me: “It shouldn’t be this difficult to find out how our taxpayer money is being used to fund Planned Parenthood. Where is the transparency?”

What About the Other Money?
Funding confusion is not all GAO found. Over the three years analyzed, PP affiliates received $24 million in reimbursements that weren’t included in GAO’s calculations of funding received by PP affiliates. From page 40 of the report, with emphasis added:

Some PPFA affiliates expended federal grant funding but were not required to report it to OMB because the amounts expended did not meet the required threshold. According to data provided to us by PPFA, these affiliates expended approximately $23 million in grant funding. In addition, some PPFA affiliates received an additional $24 million in reimbursements for services provided under the federal programs listed in table 25."

http://www.gao.gov/assets/670/669140.pdf

Why Congress Won't Defund Planned Parenthood

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/u....-years-gao-rep

It doesn't?

I am pretty sure that Roe vs Wade was about abortion, and I'm pretty sure the reason they want to remove funding for Planned Parenthood is because they perform abortions. Any one with one fourth of brain can see they are trying to get around the Supreme Court Roe vs Wade ruling by threatening to shut down the government if Planned Parenthood is funded.

So yeah, they are connected. Directly. They are trying to ensure Planned Parenthood is not funded in an event to get around a Supreme Court ruling. You know: "We want candy and if we cannot get it we will throw a temper tantrum" and threaten to shut down the government (again).

What a great way to run our government... "We don't like the ruling so we will do everything we can to get around it". Just Obamacare.... "We don't like Obamacare but instead of trying to fix it or offer up a better solution we are going to spend the next four to six years fighting it".

you might want to learn about roe v wade before trying to teach others about it.

it's an SC opinion that gives women the right to choose an abortion.

women still have the right to choose abortions, regardless if pp is funded (or not) by the government and regardless of government shutdowns.

No, I don't need to learn about Roe vs Wade. It gives women the right to choose an abortion.

Since Roe v Wade the pro lifers have been doing everything in their power to stop abortions, and Planned Parenthood - which performs over three hundred thousand abortions a year - is their prime target. They cannot beat Roe v Wade, so they are trying to prevent organizations such as Planned Parenthood from performing abortions by ensuring the government doesn't fund them.

They are trying to stop abortions even though it's perfectly legal.

This is a very basic concept.... The beliefs of one group of people cannot dictate the rights of another group. Pro-lifers cannot decide if a woman can or cannot have an abortion. At the same time, a county clerk does not get to decide who can and who cannot get married.

the government does not fund pp abortions, and no the government isn't trying to take that right to abortions away by defunding pp.

the defunding issue is due to the selling of fetuses and the videos that depict an unscrupulous business practices such as illegal abortions.

We had this discussion about the video and you lost; The video wasn't of an abortion. Depending on which truth you believe (both of which you posted) the video was either of a stillborn child or a premature baby that is still alive. (If you wish I will GLADLY bump the thread for you.) Either way the video Carly discussed during the debate had nothing to do with an abortion.

The video was nothing but propaganda, and was completely and utterly false.

This is the problem.... A group of people believe in their cause so damn much that when a propaganda video lies to them they believe it and fap fap fap and they go on the war path trying to shut down our government in a vain attempt to get around Roe v Wade.

YOU CANNOT SHUT DOWN OUR GOVERNMENT BECAUSE OF YOUR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.

The truth is I really don't care too much about abortion or Roe v Wade. If women want to get an abortion, they should be able to. My issue here is that the Supreme Court has ruled on this - a LONG time ago - and people need to accept that. This all goes back to "I am not getting my way and I'm going to cry about it".

I'm sorry, but not matter what someone else's beliefs will never control my actions. I life my life by my rules, not someone else's rules. Imagine if these religious fanatics had their way - they would just say "porn is bad for you and makes your palms hairy" and it would be against the law.

i didn't lose jack shit, i'm not competing with you. that video thread was about fiorini and her video, not about the issue i mentioned above which is 1. roe v wade has not one thing to do with defunding pp and 2) my orignal comment here was about needless government spending.


i couldn't give a shit about beliefs, my point goes to wasteful government spending. i stated my view, Americans don't need to be spending millions of dollars on planned parenthood when pp would do just fine without the majority of the funding. spin my view any way you want and bump any thread you're confused about.