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  • SilentKnight
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    • Oct 2005
    • 24818

    #1

    The Great Escape (Steve McQueen) - fiction

    No Americans took part in the famous Great Escape (as depicted in the movie).




    Ted Barris guesses he has done about 250 speaking engagements for his 2013 book The Great Escape: A Canadian Story. And they all start the same way: Hollywood duped us.

    Steve McQueen on a motorcycle and all that American chest-thumping played well in theatres back in 1963, but history told a different story. For one thing, says Barris, there were no Americans involved in The Great Escape. This astounding act of stealth was undertaken by British and Commonwealth airmen, including many Canadians, being held as prisoners of war at the Stalag Luft III camp.

    "I begin my talk by kicking Hollywood," says Barris, who speaks at a meeting of the Lundy's Lane Historical Society Thursday at the Victoria Avenue library.

    "They got it wrong! But the small print is, were it not for Steve McQueen, John Sturges, who made the film, and all the cast of Hollywood greats?I wouldn't have nearly the attention drawn to my book as I do."

    Despite being a fascinating story on its own, Barris says Hollywood's embellishments brought the great escape to the world, and in many cases prompted people to seek out the real chain of events.
    "Hollywood tends to focus us, even if the story's wrong, on the great events of human history," he says.

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  • JFK
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    • Jan 2002
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    • Deej
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      • Jun 2005
      • 24386

      #3
      wait wait wait.... so there was a guy that really ate 50 boiled eggs?

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      • Magnetron
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        • Jun 2013
        • 1841

        #4
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        • rogueteens
          So fucking bland
          • Jul 2006
          • 8005

          #5
          no surprise, many historical hollywood films add americans for added draw for the home audience. it was one of the major jokes of the film "Churchill - the Hollywood years"
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          • bronco67
            Too lazy to set a custom title
            • Dec 2006
            • 29032

            #6
            still a good movie.

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            • robwod
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              • Nov 2005
              • 2540

              #7
              To be fair, anyone that uses Hollywood movies for history lessons is not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.

              Hollywood movies are not historical documentaries. They are created for one thing, and one thing only: to make money for their investors and the studios. Writers take an idea, and construct scenarios around carefully crafted plotlines and character development to attract people to spend money. Some are better than others.

              If this same movie were created in Japan, they'd probably have a Japanese focused hero. Or in Britain, or in Canada, etc. When in Rome, cater to the demographic where you can turn the greatest profit.
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              • SilentKnight
                Megan Fox's fluffer
                • Oct 2005
                • 24818

                #8
                Originally posted by robwod
                To be fair, anyone that uses Hollywood movies for history lessons is not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.
                That's very true - but the world is populated with a LOT of dull knives that are easily confused and propagandized.

                I'd imagine if you polled a hundred people - the majority would think quite a lot (if not all) of the movie was somewhat historically accurate.

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                • Vendzilla
                  Biker Gnome
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 23200

                  #9
                  Great Movie and will watch is again next time I see it playing
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                  think about that

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                  • Far-L
                    Confirmed User
                    • Feb 2002
                    • 6065

                    #10
                    Does it make it more real though knowing Steve McQueen did his own motorcycle stunts in the film?

                    I think it should.

                    We are talking McQueen here. He invented cool and pretty much set a standard by which all others must stand judged and not quite worthy.
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                    • ruff
                      I have a plan B
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 5507

                      #11
                      Originally posted by SilentKnight
                      No Americans took part in the famous Great Escape (as depicted in the movie).




                      Ted Barris guesses he has done about 250 speaking engagements for his 2013 book The Great Escape: A Canadian Story. And they all start the same way: Hollywood duped us.

                      Steve McQueen on a motorcycle and all that American chest-thumping played well in theatres back in 1963, but history told a different story. For one thing, says Barris, there were no Americans involved in The Great Escape. This astounding act of stealth was undertaken by British and Commonwealth airmen, including many Canadians, being held as prisoners of war at the Stalag Luft III camp.

                      "I begin my talk by kicking Hollywood," says Barris, who speaks at a meeting of the Lundy's Lane Historical Society Thursday at the Victoria Avenue library.

                      "They got it wrong! But the small print is, were it not for Steve McQueen, John Sturges, who made the film, and all the cast of Hollywood greats?I wouldn't have nearly the attention drawn to my book as I do."

                      Despite being a fascinating story on its own, Barris says Hollywood's embellishments brought the great escape to the world, and in many cases prompted people to seek out the real chain of events.
                      "Hollywood tends to focus us, even if the story's wrong, on the great events of human history," he says.

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                      There are not and never have been any Canadians as cool as Steve McQueen.
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                      • SilentKnight
                        Megan Fox's fluffer
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 24818

                        #12
                        Originally posted by ruff
                        There are not and never have been any Canadians as cool as Steve McQueen.

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                        • PaperstreetWinston
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                          • Jan 2014
                          • 2604

                          #13
                          Originally posted by bronco67
                          still a good movie.
                          yep, doesnt change that fact
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