Europeans: What is your take on the migration crisis ??

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That about sums it up. It's good for the German economy becuase they have a massive labour shortage and this is a means of openly importing over a million Third World slaves to fix it, whilst pretending to the world that they are 'caring' about the refugees and publicly shaming countries like the UK, Poland, and Hungary who are honest about the long term suicidal consquences of an open door policy.

And how does this prevent little boys being washed up on Turkish shores? Letting them all in is only going to encourage millions more to try their luck on overcrowded boats - unless Germany is willing to book international flights for half the population of Africa and the Middle-East. (the population of Africa alone is projected to be 3 billion by 2050, that of Europe 0.3 billion).

But I guess white middle-class liberals can feel good about themselves.

And where does this 'muslims killed only 10% of what the Christians did' claim come from?

Is this based on the entire history of Christian Muslim relations? So presumably history curiously started just before the crusades, and not the hundreds of years previously in which the arab muslim armies had rampaged through the entire middle-east converting the native populations through sword and rape, and only narrowly prevented from conquering the whole of Europe in a similar manner?

Or does it just include recent history - claiming all the deaths produced by the Iraq/Afghan wars, and the bombing of Libya and Syria, as 'Christians killing Muslims'?
Given that the large Christian populations in Syria and Iraq have almost been wiped out by ISIS and other muslim groups, I doubt even the inflated figures for the casualties inflicted by the US in the Iraq war are 10x that.

The Iraq war, and the attempt at 'Arab Spring' through bombing and meddling in Libya and Syria were absolute catastrophes - based upon the absurd feel good liberal delusion that muslims can be 'just like us'. You might like to remember that muslims had murdered 3,000 people in New York and shown a willingness to kill millions more if they weren't relying on the stone age technology and stolen weapons their primitive culture is restrained by.

If ISIS and the other countless muslim 'radical' groups had the same level of technology and numerical superiority in arms, then we wouldn't be here to discuss this. These people really want to kill us, and I don't buy the fact that they are a 'tiny minority'. A tiny minority, no matter how ruthless, doesn't conquer huge swathes of entire countries if they don't enjoy widespread support.

In the Christian/Secular world, you're an 'extremist' if you consider the long term benefits of millions of muslim immigrants being imported into our countries to be highly dubious.

In the Muslim world, you're an extremist if you think the entire white male population of Europe should be beheaded with the children and women sold into sex slavery, rather than simply converted to Sharia and the one true faith through gradual means (outbreeding the native population, imposing taxes on Christians etc).

Yes, people have interests. However people rarely do very much just based on other people's interests. People think their own interests, not some guy's they don't even know about, nor his interests.

They fight in Syria for their own reasons, not for someone else's.

(Via Amnesty International Australia)

There is nothing special in Syria situation, other than them abandoning their country in masses. It is war in there, not some serious drought or whatever making the place inhabitable.

The more that vote, the more politicians will take notice. The problem is elections are a long way off, so voting out the liberals isn't an option for a while.

No idea.

Try to read Nostradamus.. I am not fanatic follower of him but... A lot of things had happend in the past and I think that some things are going to happen in the near future. Current situation is just start. Although I have understanding for both interested sites, some described things in his notes are really really close to the reality.

one of the best allies of US in Middle East - Saudi Arabia.
the country, where the migrant workers are get their passport confiscated and work as a slaves for their muslim masters.
why Saudi Arabia wont accept 2 milions refugees from Syria ?
they already supported anti- Assad groups and are of one the reasons for what happens now. just like Israel, US, UK, France, italy (Kaddafi and Saddam) and few others puppets of US- masters
anyway, Syrian refugees would melt really well into Saudi Arabia just like Qatar... same language and culture

Nostradamus is a CIA mind controlling/ diversion project

95 % are in 5 muslim countries and 50 % are displaces ?
22 milion syrians, 50 %= 11 milions.
95 % of 11 milions = 10,5 mln
that means that 0,5 mln is storming Europe now ? or not really, as probably among those 95 % in 5 muslim countries, around 30 % already left to seek better life in eurozone....
and there is also Libya and Iraq.... and traditional illegal imigration from Africa

And yet you provide 0 examples. 0 of his quotes. and 0 comparisons.

good job! idiot.

things "happend" in the past and some things are going to happen in the future? ABSOLUTE GENIUS! No one else could have come to such a well stated conclusion.

Amnesty International is a corrupt financially self-enriching bunch of feel good twats, just like 99% of NGOs in the world.

Oh, Turkey has taken in 2 million Syrian refugees and Australia has taken zero. Aren't Australians horrible white bastards? Is perhaps the fact that Turkey borders Syria and is the only route available for those seeking to get into Europe (apparently all Syrian refugees) relevant here? Also, Turkey is a muslim society, Syria is a muslim society, Australia is not (yet). Turkey has a population nearly 4 times that of Australia.
Turkey also played a major part in creating this mess by supporting the unrest against President Assad. They also stood by and did nothing while their Kurdish brothers right on their border were being besieged by ISIS and under threat of beheading and sex slavery.

Australia clearly has a problem already in preventing members of its current tiny, but fast growing muslim minority from turning into ISIS terrorists intent on beheading random Australian citizens. Perhaps there's reasonable fears and not just trogladyte 'prejudice' for why they might not be so keen as to bring in a million muslims from a warzone in which the combatants are roasting each other's prisoners alive and regularly committing the kind of war crimes not seen in Europe since the Dark Ages (including the NAZIs)?

Syrian drought

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/03/sc...ange.html?_r=0

So Islam is looking after it's own problems. And why is this bad?

As for the money, ask the Oil Rich tycoons, they have more than enough. They could even employ some to build their skyscrapers, stadiums and malls.

I am not your teacher to learn you history. If you wanna find out more, look for more! Or try to read something else than internet shits. Ohh sorry, it would be so grueling for you!

sentence out of context - good job! idiot.

Thank you for your completion!

Is English your second language? You talk like an idiot foreigner.

What "history" are you talking about? Your own delusional thoughts on Nostradamus?

Or your grand epiphany that things happen in the past and in the future?

You can't even provide 1 valid example because you have none. You were probably watching Nostradamus youtube videos stoned and now think of yourself as "in the know" just like every other conspiracy nut.

And just like every other nutball when pressed for proof your answer is "FIND IT YOURSELF!" meanwhile you were the one who brought up the argument. Do you play records backwards in your free time hoping satan will talk to you? friggin nut.

Don´t have those info, I read it more than 2 years ago, not from official sources. If you are right, I don´t beleive that my name is my name!

It is still habitable and the refugees haven't been taken in by some climate change refugee basis.

But yes, drought is linked to the uprising. The final straw.

When fiction becomes prophesy:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Camp_of_the_Saints


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If I give you just one valid example as you want, will you accept it? No! You will be in opposition forever, coz just your true is true.
I don´t need to persuade you, it would be to much energy for one lazy wretch.. Keep calm my friend, sit down, switch on TV, take your MC´donalds fries and coke.. And enjoy your nice world full of shits in your mind!

Yes I will, show me one example on Nostradamus and how it applies to the current situation. That's all i asked from the beginning.

Still talkin' shit I see ...

Syria is politically shattered;

These are millennia old sectarian and inter religious disputes with regard to the civil war aspect.

ISIS and its ''Caliphate" is just a murderous campaign for control -- worse than Saddam was or Assad is.

But it really for the Arabs to sort out but they suck at military actions or some are behind all of this. Hell, ISIS is using the stolen and captured US weapons from Iraq. The Iraqi government are stooges, cowards or idiots -- cannot tell. Let Iran fight them -- my enemies' enemy is my friend. Israel can just build a wall or move to a better neighborhood

Ezekiel, chapter 38 and 39
Gog and Magog
Never can know for sure

If we do NOTHING as most likely West will do, your next president may be him...

Then I suggest you send in some expert assassins.

Fighting a limited war has never yielded result.

Saddam was right about one thing -- The USA will just create another Vietnam like War.
The Russians warned us of what lied ahead of us in Afghanistan.

The USA ain't too worried of ISIS or radical Islamic invasion -- we are 100 million crazies with loaded guns -- we can defend our continent.

that's about the only link between USA iraq and syria- USA provides billions of dollars of military equipment to Iraq, iraqis abandon that equipment in the heat of battle, isis gets it and uses it to advance into and take over syria.

Agreed -- that is the only link that can be proven.
We gave arms to the asshats and the stronger asshat took them from them.
All the money we invested in training the Iraqi army to defend our nation building was wasted -- just like in South Vietnam -- same all over.

Pol Pot = ISIS same shit -- that wasn't our fault either.

?To spare you is no profit, to destroy you is no loss.?

-Kang Kek Iew (mid-level leader of the Khmer Rouge regime)

Why don't you come in Serbia,it is close, to meet those refugees, visit Kosovo or Novi Pazar area where those nice muslims you like so much live and work. I can bet you wold change you mind, instantly.

Based on the current cost estimate, Germany is going to be spending roughly $8,000 for every migrant. In the Netherlands an asylum seeker costs about $2,200 dollars a month. This means this group can live for four months and the yearly costs will be at least 19.8 billion. At the moment the Germans said that all refugees are welcome, a message that has reached the Middle East loud and clear. For this reason they will have to take in at least the double amount of people that they have estimated. Also, the costs will be much higher since they need to build homes for these people and give them education, etc. In a year or two they will have to cough up at least 50-60 billion a year. And that's only Germany.

This combined with the countries that are not doing that well economically at the moment (France, Spain, Italy etc.) and the Greeks that are going to need some more billions every few months, this whole EU project will be brought to its knees. The citizens will be outraged because the taxes will be even higher than all the raises that already have been implemented. In the last 7 years, in the Netherlands almost everybody loses at least 42% - 52% of their income to taxes and that's without the taxes on all products, they all have a value-added tax of 21%.

The willingness of 3rd worlders to work for less drives down wages (the employee end of supply and demand). This helps the economy, but only in a way that benefits corporations. Expect these European nations to have increasing levels of wealth disparity like that of the USA. Expect plummeting public support of various welfare programs that have worked (in Europe) well until now, due to the purely instinctual human tribalism that cannot be avoided (and anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional and ignorant of human psychology). For example, currently Germans support welfare spending because it goes to help their German countrymen who's shoes they are capable of seeing themselves in. However in 30 years the more common sentiment will be "why should my money be taken away to take care of some lazy Muslims? If you can't find a job here then GTFO." Much like American attitudes to welfare and their statistical connection to race.

Multiculturalism is linked to government corruption. The least corrupt countries are very homogeneous. The reason goes back to the innate human tribalism that is not taught and is not cultural and cannot be educated away, because it's human nature. Multiculturalism divides the voter base. Politicians can exploit. You need only look at the United States to see how people who are completely uneducated about economics, and should not even be voting out of sheer ignorance, are more than ready to vote based on nothing more than tribalism, usually resulting in them voting against their own economic and social interests. Instead of campaigns being about economic models and ideas, they are consist of each party trying to convince voters that the nefarious "others" are coming to get you, so vote for me.

We have two choices facing us: Remain leftist, and be faced with the inability to financially support the current social safety nets that make Europe's countries so great due to a nonstop wave of immigration from a part of the planet that vastly out numbers us (This might turn out like Costa Rica, a country with low levels of inequality but also low levels of wealth in general.) Or vote in the far right parties who will do something about this problem but then give us a looming fear of fascism returning.

i know from first hand how it looks in those refugees camps, at least in my country. i know some of them are like animals, do not want to work, do not want to clean anything, are rude at the staff who wants to help them. but are all of those like that? have you seen them all? have you tried to help any of them? have you tried to help mother with child? have the mother told you fuck off?

I hope she gets kicked in the head, what a bitch

because your question is simple and not relevant.

No one asked you.
I certainly don't ask the unintelligent what they think.

I'm amazed at the number of europeans that are advocating MORE muslims come to your countries. Slitting your own throats.

http://www.newsweek.com/16-french-ci...l-finds-266795

"""One in six French citizens sympathises with the Islamist militant group ISIS, also known as Islamic State, a poll released this week found."""

Unfortunately many Europeans have become feminized pussies who would gladly let their populations be replaced so long as they can show people how tolerant they are.

How many Mexicans enter America these days ??

It's true. Exact same thing is happening in the US. The only difference is that the immigrants crossing into the US aren't muslim for the most part.

Either way - R.I.P. Europe.

Cause of death - multiculturalism.

Hopefully the US, Canada and Australia will learn from your mistake. But I doubt it.


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Why isn't Russia taking them all in? I mean, Syria was in the Russian sphere of influence, right?

although i'm not sure what your point is, the answer is:

As of 2013, approximately 11.6 million Mexican immigrants resided in the United States?up from 2.2 million in 1980?and Mexicans accounted for 28 percent of the country?s 41.3 million foreign born.

Mexican immigration to the United States has begun to decline?marking at least a pause, and possibly an end to the fourth wave. Declining inflows appear to reflect the impact of the Great Recession, improved educational and economic opportunities in Mexico, and ever-tougher border enforcement.

out of 350 million Americans

Mexican Immigrants in the United States | migrationpolicy.org

Russian troops are in Syria. This has been confirmed. They may mainly be advising, but they are there.

Not wanting to work or clean is smallest problem. From what you wrote, I can make a conclusion that you don't have experience with muslims at all.

Are you blind not to see that is completely different culture and way of thinking. Religious hordes that are not respecting other cultures and are so closed and fucked up that their own women in 21century don't have all rights and freedom.

And logic you are using makes me ask you : Have you eat every shit on earth, maybe some of them are good, you just need to try them all.

Sure, otherwise there would be no Syria no more long ago. They are managing to survive for many years back. I guess that Syrians can't handle anymore all this devastation backed by foreign money and Saudi support , so Russians will now step in. From what I read, first contingent is already there securing place where military base is currently built for more troops.

they are there since 40 years in case you dont know - on various engagement levels and quantity

so basically - you leave mess and your shit around and enjoy your happy meal far away at the other side of Atlantic ?
why you ever invaded iraq in 2003 except for money (for some people), power and oil ?
why you supported Anti-Assad "liberal Arabs" coalition that basically became ISIS ?
you think that you may still mess around in this world and enjoy your happy meals far away ?
some people say that governments are THAT stupid (all done by accident and without knowledge= unforseen consquences) or THAT smart (conspiracy theories, all made on purpose).
you never know.

Wasn't being a cunt but just pointing out Europe isn't alone as it's usually highlighted on this board about the Mexican influx in America...

heads-up arabs have been slaughtering arabs and others for long before America was even a country.

you need to blame America and point your finger at Americans for mcdonalds and i get that. you are free to do so.