Europeans: What is your take on the migration crisis ??
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To be more exact, the West, Gulf monarchies and Turkey have not exacerbated the Syrian conflict, they have rather fomented it from the beginning by supporting the Wahhabi terrorists of ISIS.
Now unexpected fall-outs and backlashes of this politics of chaos have become a problem for themselves.
Recent developments:
- the chief of the Wahhabi terrorists and ISIS (the King of Saudi Arabia) is currently in the White House. It seems that they are talking about how to end the Syrian chaos,
- US is hinting at probable ground intervention against ISIS in Syria,
- UK and France are gesticulating about increasing their engagement,
- rumors of Russian direct military intervention in Syria,
Hope that they will come to the conclusion that this madness should stop quickly otherwise the whole region of the Middle East including Israel will be burnt in its fire.Comment
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These migrants will first ask for a place to say. Within 2 years there will be a lot of applications to the local authorities seeking permission to build mosques. After 5 years they will cry an say that they are victims and they are not getting the right to practice their religion. They will blame the west and say that West is responsible for all this.More cultural enrichment:
Refugees allowed into Italy after threat to drown babies | Daily Mail Online
Makes you wonder what they would be willing to do with OUR children.
We're nearing the end of this years wave anyways, around november... the Mediterranean gets alot choppier in the fall/winter and alot of those migrants have to pass through mountains on the land route. There will be 5x more next year though.Comment
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To be more exact, the West, Gulf monarchies and Turkey have not exacerbated the Syrian conflict, they have rather fomented it from the beginning by supporting the Wahhabi terrorists of ISIS.
Now unexpected fall-outs and backlashes of this politics of chaos have become a problem for themselves.
Recent developments:
- the chief of the Wahhabi terrorists and ISIS (the King of Saudi Arabia) is currently in the White House. It seems that they are talking about how to end the Syrian chaos,
- US is hinting at probable ground intervention against ISIS in Syria,
- UK and France are gesticulating about increasing their engagement,
- rumors of Russian direct military intervention in Syria,
Hope that they will come to the conclusion that this madness should stop quickly otherwise the whole region of the Middle East including Israel will be burnt in its fire.Why are you copy pasting from other sites in your replies ? Is it because you're a worthless sig whore ?These migrants will first ask for a place to say. Within 2 years there will be a lot of applications to the local authorities seeking permission to build mosques. After 5 years they will cry an say that they are victims and they are not getting the right to practice their religion. They will blame the west and say that West is responsible for all this.Comment
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According to you, my friend, not wanting the whole of Europe to become a crazy social experiment like Sweden is bigotry. Sure thing m8. Oh, I forgot, Sweden is a model country. Taking in hordes of people from third world countries with third world ''values'' is so progressive. Ignoring the fact that rape has skyrocketed because of these people and that they are leeching off the welfare state is progressive. Heck, they can even start some riots and nobody will touch them because hey, that would be racist. And no, I am obviously not referring to the Syrians but keep twisting things, it is amusing.
Well I mean given that I can't go out and talk to a billion and a half people to understand them all I can go on is what I read about the magnitude.
ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
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NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
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People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
A Year After Iraq War | Pew Research Center
YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
PJ Media
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...053251,00.html
World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda’s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf
Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/
Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/
16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/...aardbaar.dhtml
Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist
Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60
Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/...for-extremism/
Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60
ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...-islamist.html
Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist
ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews...ms%20Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist
Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist
Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf
Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf
PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/po...cks-on-israely
Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/
See also: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_(Terrorism) for further statistics on Islamic terror.
Rather disturbing ...
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Someone should start a thread about this idiot Jerkules.
The thing he's promoting is total crap also.
Maybe I should just write a bot to reply to every post he makes to warn people not to buy what is in his sig.
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The is no unity in the Arab world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_S..._d%27%C3%A9tat
^the 1966 Syrian coup The exception being the current King or strongman that uses the police or military to prop up his regime. How would you like to live that way?
The European states now mainly just shout accusations and insults at each other where they shot bullets at each other not that long ago.
The USA accepted millions of immigrants. Ellis Island was built to sort out the masses that came to our shores from Europe and other countries.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Island
I am one of those 100 Million. One of my grandfathers arrived here alone only 10 years old with a suitcase and 11 dollars cash -- he had a home waiting: He could sleep on his cousin's floor with earlier arrivals from his village near Minsk. They finally let him in -- he gave them a German sounding name as his chances of entry were better than being from Russia -- back then the USA needed the immigrant so the USA was more accommodating.[T]oday, over 100 million Americans?or something over about one-third of the population?can trace their ancestry to the immigrants who first arrived in America at Ellis Island before dispersing to points all over the country.[47]
Generally, those immigrants who were approved spent from two to five hours at Ellis Island. Arrivals were asked 29 questions including name, occupation, and the amount of money carried. It was important to the American government that the new arrivals could support themselves and have money to get started. The average the government wanted the immigrants to have was between 18 and 25 dollars. Those with visible health problems or diseases were sent home or held in the island's hospital facilities for long periods of time. More than three thousand would-be immigrants died on Ellis Island while being held in the hospital facilities. Some unskilled workers were rejected because they were considered "likely to become a public charge." About 2 percent were denied admission to the U.S. and sent back to their countries of origin for reasons such as having a chronic contagious disease, criminal background, or insanity.[48] Ellis Island was sometimes known as "The Island of Tears" or "Heartbreak Island"[49] because of those 2% who were not admitted after the long transatlantic voyage. ....
Sound familiar, as many of the claims of the immigrant nationality being Syrian are false?
There were Sicilian Mafioso that came to first terrorize the Italian immigrants and later the whole country for 55 years the USA dealt with it.
Americans were hostile to the Irish that immigrated here during the potato famine ... Ireland's problems were exacerbated by British occupation and rule -- in the end the Irish revolted and ran the British off most of the island. Many Irish were 'economic-refugees' to the USA not unlike the current Muslim refugees reaching Europe's shores today. The predominantly Protestant Christians barely tolerated the hated Irish Catholics. The poorer USA working class screamed; Stop this Irish immigration they are taking our jobs! Sound familiar -- I will build a wall to keep the criminal immigrants out and there will be more jobs for Americans [US citizens](bullshit) What are Latin Americans, men from the moon? This is so arrogant I am embarrassed.
Sadly, history repeats itself then repeats itself again.
The Sunni and Shiite Muslims have the same animosity and a similar religious schism. Within each subset of coreligionist there are long standing tribal and ethnic frictions dating back over 1,000 years. So, here we are today ...Comment
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Migrant communities produce terrorists, with some coming with the refugees, that production will escalate.There may be a few stealthy ISIS or other Muslim extremist terrorists mixed in. So, damn them all to hell then? That is the sure way for ISIS to get new recruits -- that thinking is self defeating. Vet them all out, if necessary in refugee camps when they reach land. All of Europe is affected and all of Europe should react in unity and address this problem together. Instead, all the individual EU nation-states bicker and play the pass-the-trash immigrants to your neighbor game.
That is no solution ...
Then China and Russia buys the oil.
Yes, anyone who thinks these migrants can afford to pay the traffickers before leaving, is a fool. They're deep in debt when they arrive, they have to get North to find work to repay the traffickers. Look at the pictures, do these look like people with money?Close the fucking border to middle east and africa. Set up refugee camps to house all immigrants. Yes it will take some management and partnership with a few countries in that area. European countries throw money in a pool so that the immigrants can have a "decent" life at the camps and install troops to protect them from islamic state etc. Then when things settle down there whenever that happens (first and foremost get rid of Islamic state) they can build up their own countries.
Follow the money.Comment
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Remember the West praising the Arab Spring? That's how little our media and leaders know about these people. Without a despot in charge, another despot takes over. Via tribal warfare until a new tyrant wins by killing more than the rest.The is no unity in the Arab world
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_S..._d%27%C3%A9tat
^the 1966 Syrian coup The exception being the current King or strongman that uses the police or military to prop up his regime. How would you like to live that way?Comment
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The USA dealt with it,
*see above^^^There were Sicilian Mafioso that came to first terrorize the Italian immigrants and later the whole country for 55 years the USA dealt with it.
The Russians do not buy oil they export it. The Russians would make a bundle selling the Chinese oil at inflated 'oil embargo' prices
Anyway, you seem to have lost your British whit -- That was pure sarcasm ...
Europe doesn't have to take in these immigrants.
The USA took in almost 8 million immigrants from Europe at Ellis Island in New York City until the 1920's then Canada and Latin America took many more. The USA is not welcoming masses of immigrants.
So what are you Europeans going to decide to do?
Embargo your shores to the immigrant wave -- let them drown or go back.
Or, are you just going to have a shouting contest for a year?[do nothing]
Again sarcasm ... If Germany agrees to accept up to 800K give the immigrants passage to Germany. When the 800K limit is reached, turn further immigrant waves back if there is no place for them.
That is what the USA did with the waves that came from Europe until 1923* Parts of my family ended up in Canada and Argentina. That was still in the Americas and a lot better than Odessa was.
Problem is there are 1 or 2 billion people on the planet that it really cannot now support. If there are ever mass migrations from China or India this will get real ugly.
It might be better to "help?" these people find a livable solution in the place they live now -- how I have no fuckin' idea ... The Romans sent Legions -- that in the end didn't do much good. This is a long standing cultural conflict -- but it is in Europe's neighborhood.
Would you like the USA's drones to sink their ships? (Again sarcasm, as the thought is ludicrous.)Comment
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Brits go here - https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477 lets see if the BBC promote this poll in the way they are the pro-immigration oneFree traffic and backlinks from one of the fastest growing adult pinsites on the net - SAUCY PICTURES!
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Not true, tons of them are full of money. They sleep in hotels, have money on accounts or even buying properties.
Yes, anyone who thinks these migrants can afford to pay the traffickers before leaving, is a fool. They're deep in debt when they arrive, they have to get North to find work to repay the traffickers. Look at the pictures, do these look like people with money?
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I noticed that cunt Osbourne saying we will pay for it by taking money out of the annual "12 BILLION POUNDS" we give in foreign aid.Brits go here - https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477 lets see if the BBC promote this poll in the way they are the pro-immigration one
Nice one George. You guys have this all figured out... /sarcasmComment





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