Europeans: What is your take on the migration crisis ??

I'm not confused at all. I've met people like you many times in my lifetime. They think if they repeat the same lines over and over again it automatically becomes true. I'm not holding that against you though - you are what you are. Thanks for playing and have a good night.

It doesn't matter if I state it once or a million times- you are free to blame America. You're free to flipflop and you are free to call me names while you exclaim I'm going ape shit and being disrespectful.

Maybe Europeans need to be like the USA -- start to carry their guns ...

No fucking way, we are going to build immigrant frying machines at the airports. The USA wants no more socialist euro-scum [/rolls eyes] if you have a few million Euro with you you can buy a get out of jail card. We also take VISA Black Card installments. No speekey Engerleesh? Then fuck off.

And in the end, in spite of my sarcasm; None of us can offer a realistic solution.

I have to conclude that the only reasonable act is to try to turn back this immigrant flood and return them ''home (to the region)" to straighten their own problem out -- we have no place for these people. The consequences of US, NATO, Russian, Arab and Iranian interference in the region is only in the respective interfering countries' interests. These people that are trying to escape just want that -- to get the fuck out of their bad situation.

When you hate you just get your own hate mirrored back -- we are all victims of someone.

How many isis terrorists have infiltrated the refugee wave into the west? Hijrah.

Hijrah is the Islamic doctrine of migration, which is a form of stealth jihad.

Then lock and load ... Europe has to make some hard choices.

Ideally, the Middle East's inhabitants should seek some common ground and stop killing each other. With a 3,000 year* (about) history of regional warfare this may never happen.

There may be a few stealthy ISIS or other Muslim extremist terrorists mixed in. So, damn them all to hell then? That is the sure way for ISIS to get new recruits -- that thinking is self defeating. Vet them all out, if necessary in refugee camps when they reach land. All of Europe is affected and all of Europe should react in unity and address this problem together. Instead, all the individual EU nation-states bicker and play the pass-the-trash immigrants to your neighbor game.

That is no solution ...

Yeah a few isis guys is ok.

And They can't vet them out Barry, they can't ask questions related to religion and such without being labeled an islamaphobe.

Then if they don't roll over they all go back on the next return ship.

If that is the case then they all go back -- word gets out; if you don't roll over you go back ... ... maybe they won't leave?

We (NATO?) could just cut off the Middle East until they sued for peace. No oil from the region but none, or few, immigrants. Who do you think would fold first?

YES it's a fucking tragedy what's going on in the middle east and all immigrants dying on their way to europe but c'mon this so called solution of weak european politican leadership is just as idiotic as me shooting myself in the foot.

Here's a temporary solution that some of you might have previously heard about.

Close the fucking border to middle east and africa. Set up refugee camps to house all immigrants. Yes it will take some management and partnership with a few countries in that area. European countries throw money in a pool so that the immigrants can have a "decent" life at the camps and install troops to protect them from islamic state etc. Then when things settle down there whenever that happens (first and foremost get rid of Islamic state) they can build up their own countries.

This is a complex situation but this solution to give asylum to those that can PAY ?4000-?8000 to go from northern africa to southern europe by paying organized smugglers is INSANE A majority of these so called immigrants don't give a fuck about greece, hungary, italy, spain etc, no they want to northern europe where they can be feed generously by the different states (economic immigrants). This shit don't go hand in hand with some of the images of people in the direct conflict area in africa/middle east.

This will have a major impact on the future of europe. If David Cameron can't play the british people, they will leave the EU as it looks now. If they do but I think the british politicians will do anything to avoid that, it may set in motion the fall of the EU as we know it.

PS: Angela Merkel you are a fucking dumb cow!

I could not have said it much different.

There's way too much guilt feelings around liberals and left wings and way too little sane or sensible thinking.

I'm sure it had an impact. Why do everyone in this case want to specifically to germany or sweden or UK. Obviously they heard from friends / family / neighbours how generously they will be welcomed with free healthcare, dental care, 1 paycheck every month, extra pay checks for having kids etc.

Did they also expect a monthly pay check from doing nothing back then?

Yes, those pictures are horrible so now you tell me what is wrong with this vid ?

LiveLeak.com - Immigrants throw away the food and the water what they get

What do you think when you watch the video?

Yes it will have some major impact down the line, first real consequences will be seen in a few months up to a year from now. Some already today unfortunately. Girls being raped by immigrants some people murdered, just isolated cases of course but there will be more. Overall crime will go up, health quality will go down, more conflicts, a drainage of the welfare system resulting in less money for everyone who needs it.

Pretty much how I see it.

I agree schengen should be scrapped altogether it's a crap contract.

There is no intregration in germany or sweden not of a decent quality anyway. After being registered and living at other asylum camps some months they want to the cities where "others of their kind" lives. what do you think goes on there ? Unemployment, crime, gangs, hate vs the western lifestyle, some get radicalized. Maybe cause they didn't get a bmw within 6 months of arrival, I don't know.

Which syrian refugee would you take? Can you see the difference between a good or bad one or you don't care?

How about some from eritrea?

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European immigration politics have resulted in immigrants paying filthy and greedy smugglers in a hope to get to germany or sweden or UK with their generous handouts. The smugglers don't care what happens. Solution: close the borders and help them in refugee camps, throw money at them, it will still be WAY cheaper than having a unintegrated immigrants living in germany with all the costs for that.

I wonder how many people in a refugee camp can be helped for the same cost to feed a family in germany 2 parents 3 kids. It adds up to a lot.

Yes I have seen a few comment about the dead kid and celebrating. Disgusting and sick I must say. Emotionally people that probably are so feed up with the immigration they cant think straight any more and I'm sure there's a handful of commenters that can't think at all and never could.

x5-6 times ?150. I think he is not much off. But if you really want to know ill get some exact figures. Depends on how big family and how many kids. Also should add many get free healthcare and free dental care, it adds up. In the end it will result in worse quality for the overall population who can't afford private treatment.

In the long run if this goes on without interruption. I'm not expecting less anyway. So no surprise here.

Just wish I could flee somewhere, away from europe.

Australia and canada is obviously high up on the list.

Any good south american countries you would consider ?

Any other suggestions ?

Nobody celebrates dead children. It is more that they think in europe that people make 2 choices, or welcome the refugees, or see them dead. But people that are against immigration also don't like to see the death wash ashore and people that realy needs help going to die. But the people that are against immigration are willing to help also, but in another way, not by giving everybody asylum but help them local and support countries that do help. But that is the right/left poltitics in Europe. If you are not willing tio give all people asylum you are the bad guy that also don't care people are drowning. But everybody hates to see people drowning. But one group says, take them in and sent ships, while the other group says, help them there and don't allow them to make the dangerous route with smugglers on their ships and help them there.

But in europe now people see now you must have both options, help them there and in Europe cause the problem is getting to big. Ps only 25% of the refugees is realy a refugee. Most of them are from other countries to get into Europe saying they are from syria and will sent back soon. At least, if the system works cause that 75% that isn't from Syria start legal actions (free for them) and start proceeding for years and in the end can get into europe cause they are already so long time in europe.. having children there etcetra.... Proceeding cost a lot of time and money for that countries.

So in the end more and more people tend to give refugees the finger.

More cultural enrichment:
Refugees allowed into Italy after threat to drown babies | Daily Mail Online

Makes you wonder what they would be willing to do with OUR children.

We're nearing the end of this years wave anyways, around november... the Mediterranean gets alot choppier in the fall/winter and alot of those migrants have to pass through mountains on the land route. There will be 5x more next year though.

By posting this video as a 'proof' that these people are scum, you prove that you know 5% of the story what happened to these ppl in Hungary. They have a reason to act like this, believe me. So posting this video along with the other one w guy going crazy and taking the baby+lady down next to the train: BORING.


If you want to scare me you should post videos like this, because - no matter how hippie I am - this scares me for real:

More women and children protesting in Hungary: