Europeans: What is your take on the migration crisis ??

Greece is not far away.

People are not stupid when it comes to survival. They will take the best deal available to them.

Going to be a hell of a time when the families that have been there contributing to society and paying taxes for centuries decide they have had enough.

They are breaking out of camps to get to the money, when Austria says no more, they move to Germany, when Germany says no more, someone might try to deals with the problem. Just don't count on it.

Sly

People like to blame the West for all problems. They seem to be forgetting that the Middle East has been on fire for millennia. This is not the result of any one single actor. It's the result of many. Placing blame is pointless. Taking on all responsibility for the problem is naive.

That fucking idiot Bob Geldof said something similar a few days ago. He was planning to allow some "refugees" a place to stay at some of his many properties.

Nice one Bob. You attention seeking fuck...

the Arab Gulf States have yet to take in a single refugee.

Zero migrants taken in by the fabulously wealthy autocratic monarchies of the Persian Gulf.

Washington Post:

Some European countries have been criticized for offering sanctuary only to a small number of refugees, or for discriminating between Muslims and Christians. There's also been a good deal of continental hand-wringing over the general dysfunction of Europe's systems for migration and asylum.

Less ire, though, has been directed at another set of stakeholders who almost certainly should be doing more: Saudi Arabia and the wealthy Arab states along the Persian Gulf.

As Amnesty International recently pointed out, the "six Gulf countries -- Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Oman and Bahrain -- have offered zero resettlement places to Syrian refugees."

What makes their reluctance to take in any refugees so maddening is that several of those states - Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UEA - are bankrolling Islamist rebels in Syria that are the cause of this mass migration of people.

The King of Saudi Arabia has a 1000 strong party entourage. United Arab Emirates builds islands in the shape of the globe.

Him and Bono should get together and throw a new charity event, Live Now. Free concert for refugees only. Rent a large park. Free food, free bands. Thousands in attendance.

Curious how that would go.

The fact is if these refugees religious sect were the ones in power. They would be pillaging their counter parts.

It has 0 to do with the west. It's always easier to point the finger on the west.

I mean it couldnt be the fact these people come from different fanatical religious sects and indoctrinate their children from birth to hate eachother? But nope.... wests fault.

dubai police cars and headquarters

You can see already that the immigrant problems splits the people in all countries. That means that more extreme politicians will be elected. That means more problems in Europe cause most of them want out of the influence of the EU.

The tensions between migrants and p[eople from countries will grow. And in the end IS destabilized Europe and than everything can happen. You can see that every country already musthave some jihadist in their country.

You must help the real refugees, but Europe can take care of all the people that want to go to Europe. Espacially not when some countries want 0 refugees, while other must take 100.000...

Every time IS start attacking new areas, more people will come and destabilize Europe in many ways. A lot of people are already angry about the help for Greece while in their own countries things aren't as well as it was either.

I have the feeling we will found out soon what happens, i expect more terror attacks in Europe to destabilize Europe.

Spend 15 minutes researching the Shiites and the Sunnis and anyone can see that the West doesn't even matter. And that's just them! Mix in the Christians, then mix in your different tribes, then mix in your different royal families, then mix in your different nations, then mix in your fighting over resources.

And on and on and on.

The Middle East has more money than any country could ever possibly need.

4 of the top 30 countries based on GDP alone (excluding Israel):
https://www.gfmag.com/global-data/ec...rest-countries

Germany is #18 on that list, by the way, behind Qatar at #1 (that country that bribed FIFA to have a luxurious World Cup event in the middle of the summer in the middle of the desert) and United Arab Emirates at #8 (that country building all sorts of little islands that look like the globe and really neat looking trees.)

Blame the West!

Well I mean given that I can't go out and talk to a billion and a half people to understand them all I can go on is what I read about the magnitude.

ICM Poll: 20% of British Muslims sympathize with 7/7 bombers
Telegraph | Error 404 | Sorry, the page you have requested is not available

NOP Research: 1 in 4 British Muslims say 7/7 bombings were justified
Page Not Found: 404 Not Found - CBS News
WebCite query result

People-Press: 31% of Turks support suicide attacks against Westerners in Iraq.
A Year After Iraq War | Pew Research Center

YNet: One third of Palestinians (32%) supported the slaughter of a Jewish family, including the children:
PJ Media
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...053251,00.html

World Public Opinion: 61% of Egyptians approve of attacks on Americans
32% of Indonesians approve of attacks on Americans
41% of Pakistanis approve of attacks on Americans
38% of Moroccans approve of attacks on Americans
83% of Palestinians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (only 14% oppose)
62% of Jordanians approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (21% oppose)
42% of Turks approve of some or most groups that attack Americans (45% oppose)
A minority of Muslims disagreed entirely with terror attacks on Americans:
(Egypt 34%; Indonesia 45%; Pakistan 33%)
About half of those opposed to attacking Americans were sympathetic with al-Qaeda?s attitude toward the U.S.
http://www.worldpublicopinion.org/pi..._Feb09_rpt.pdf

Pew Research (2010): 55% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hezbollah
30% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hezbollah
45% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hezbollah (26% negative)
43% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hezbollah (30% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 60% of Jordanians have a positive view of Hamas (34% negative).
49% of Egyptians have a positive view of Hamas (48% negative)
49% of Nigerian Muslims have a positive view of Hamas (25% negative)
39% of Indonesians have a positive view of Hamas (33% negative)
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

Pew Research (2010): 15% of Indonesians believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
34% of Nigerian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified.
http://pewglobal.org/2010/12/02/musl...and-hezbollah/

16% of young Muslims in Belgium state terrorism is "acceptable".
http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/1275/Islam/...aardbaar.dhtml

Populus Poll (2006): 12% of young Muslims in Britain (and 12% overall) believe that suicide attacks against civilians in Britain can be justified. 1 in 4 support suicide attacks against British troops.
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

Pew Research (2007): 26% of younger Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are justified.
35% of young Muslims in Britain believe suicide bombings are justified (24% overall).
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified (35% overall).
22% of young Muslims in Germany believe suicide bombings are justified.(13% overall).
29% of young Muslims in Spain believe suicide bombings are justified.(25% overall).
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60

Pew Research (2011): 8% of Muslims in America believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (81% never).
28% of Egyptian Muslims believe suicide bombings are often or sometimes justified (38% never).
http://www.people-press.org/2011/08/...for-extremism/

Pew Research (2007): Muslim-Americans who identify more strongly with their religion are three times more likely to feel that suicide bombings are justified
http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/mu...ns.pdf#page=60

ICM: 5% of Muslims in Britain tell pollsters they would not report a planned Islamic terror attack to authorities.
27% do not support the deportation of Islamic extremists preaching violence and hate.
http://www.scotsman.com/?id=1956912005
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...-islamist.html

Federation of Student Islamic Societies: About 1 in 5 Muslim students in Britain (18%) would not report a fellow Muslim planning a terror attack.
http://www.fosis.org.uk/sac/FullReport.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

ICM Poll: 25% of British Muslims disagree that a Muslim has an obligation to report terrorists to police.
http://www.icmresearch.co.uk/reviews...ms%20Nov04.asp
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

Populus Poll (2006): 16% of British Muslims believe suicide attacks against Israelis are justified.
37% believe Jews in Britain are a "legitimate target".
http://www.populuslimited.com/pdf/2006_02_07_times.pdf
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2005...itish-islamist

Pew Research (2013): At least 1 in 4 Muslims do not reject violence against civilians (study did not distinguish between those who believe it is partially justified and never justified).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf

Pew Research (2013): 15% of Muslims in Turkey support suicide bombings (also 11% in Kosovo, 26% in Malaysia and 26% in Bangladesh).
http://www.pewforum.org/uploadedFile...ull-report.pdf

PCPO (2014): 89% of Palestinians support Hamas and other terrorists firing rockets at Israeli civilians.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/po...cks-on-israely

Pew Research (2013): Only 57% of Muslims worldwide disapprove of al-Qaeda. Only 51% disapprove of the Taliban. 13% support both groups and 1 in 4 refuse to say.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/
http://www.pewglobal.org/2013/09/10/...remist-groups/

See also: http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Muslim_Statistics_(Terrorism) for further statistics on Islamic terror.

PS, the background story about the poor kid that was drowned. They where already in Turkey for months/ years and wanted to go to Canada. That was cause they didn't have much work/money in Turkey and hard to get work. He also needed dental repair for 14.000 USD because during tortures they hit his teeth. So his sister from canada and other family sent money so they could buy a bout to flew to Europe (Sweden/Germany) for 14K dental repair and than try to get to Canada.

Dit is het verhaal achter Syrisch jongetje Aylan - Elsevier.nl

can't blame people to try to get a better life, but how much risk must you take.

wait, what?

Really? I wonder why. I mean I've never seen sheep walk into a slaughter house voluntarily ... have you?