Europeans: What is your take on the migration crisis ??

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  • Tasty1
    Bla bla blaa
    • Jan 2005
    • 9527
    #181
    In Holland it is almost code red for terrorism. The people don't know what is happening cause it is secret information. But something is happening cause a lot extra security in the government.

    I know a teacher in a Ducth school. When they murdered a Dutch artist here Theo van Gogh (a little like Charlie Hebdo) all foreign students started celebrating... He stopped teaching there, he said he saw what would tricker riots in Holland. I am afraid he could be right. Just like in France several years ago. But how to prevent that?

    everything is fake

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      • mineistaken
        See signature :)
        • Apr 2007
        • 29656
        #182
        Originally posted by Bjorn_Tasty1
        But how to prevent that?
        How can you prevent when you let savages in?

        Not possible. 2 different cultures, they do not know how to live in western civilization, they do not even like it.

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          • mineistaken
            See signature :)
            • Apr 2007
            • 29656
            #183
            Originally posted by femdomdestiny
            Can't read all that shit above. Situation is clear and simple. Barbaric and religious fanatics are getting inside and occupying europe without single shot fired. Those who don't have experience with muslim population shouldn't give their opinion. What is shown on TV is not even close to what Is hapenning every fucking day . Europe is islamized and they will fuck you up when there are enough of them. I can't wait to see faces of people like MaDalton when they come in his village and tell him that beer is forbidden and that he can choose will they cut his head off or he will accept Islam.
            Well said.

            The question is WHY the fuck Eu governments welcome this plague with open arms?
            Who is having all the strings in order to destroy Europe?

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              • nico-t
                emperor of my world
                • Aug 2004
                • 29903
                #184
                Originally posted by MaDalton
                lol - as someone that used to work for a company whos content depicts women in the most degrading way possible you are surely an epitome of women rights, yeah
                think you got me mixed up, never worked for a porn company i was always an affiliate... now im curious which company you mean

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                  • RazorSharpe
                    Confirmed User
                    • Aug 2001
                    • 2238
                    #185
                    Originally posted by mineistaken
                    How can you prevent when you let savages in?

                    Not possible. 2 different cultures, they do not know how to live in western civilization, they do not even like it.
                    Savages? LOL! Get over yourself mini Hitler!

                    You can't go around dropping buzzwords like Operation Freedom, telling your country's constituents that you're invading another country to bring them democracy (that they never asked for) and then leave those countries worse off than they were and except no blowback from the "savages".

                    You romance them with the ideas of democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of expression, etc. and when they come to your country and try and do exactly these things, you throw a fucking hissy fit?
                    Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                      • RazorSharpe
                        Confirmed User
                        • Aug 2001
                        • 2238
                        #186
                        Originally posted by k0nr4d
                        Leistungen für Flüchtlinge - Politik - WDR.de
                        "Ganz ausgenommen von den 359 Euro sind Kosten für Unterkunft, Heizung und Hausrat. Diese werden gesondert erbracht - wahlweise als Geld- oder Sachleistung."

                        So €359 per each adult refugee (presumably tax free) + allowances for housing, heating and household appliances. I'd imagine there are some additional amounts given for children's needs as well, but that article doesn't seem to cover it.
                        Compared to Poland, that 359 euro is roughly 1500 PLN which is above our minimum wage and roughly what a cashier at a grocery store cashier makes working 40-50 hours a week, and they have to pay for their own housing.

                        That being said, I do agree with you that Germany and the German people would treat them better. As far as public opinion goes, whereas Germans might be 50/50 for taking them, The polish population is about 90/10 or more against taking them.
                        Konrad, it's not just refugees doing this though is it? There's a lot of Poles, Romanians, etc. in the UK on the scrounging ... I mean benefit system. Why are you so surprised that people what to go where the grass is greener?

                        Poles demand millions from Britain to pay their benefits: Eastern European governments want cash for returning migrants | Daily Mail Online

                        The UK even pays out for children that aren't even in the UK:
                        Britain sending £600k abroad EVERY week: Poles demand millions from UK to pay their benefits to immigrants whose children live abroad | Daily Mail Online
                        Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                          • dyna mo
                            just a fucking jerk
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 68184
                            #187
                            Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                            Savages? LOL! Get over yourself mini Hitler!

                            You can't go around dropping buzzwords like Operation Freedom, telling your country's constituents that you're invading another country to bring them democracy (that they never asked for) and then leave those countries worse off than they were and except no blowback from the "savages".

                            You romance them with the ideas of democracy, freedom of speech, freedom of expression, etc. and when they come to your country and try and do exactly these things, you throw a fucking hissy fit?
                            i think you are meaning to refer to operation enduring freedom, there was no operation freedom. and operation enduring freedom was a military effort to stop the taliban, not spread democracy.

                            the USA has never attempted to inject democracy into Syria, those people took their own initiative against a violent regime.

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                              • RazorSharpe
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2001
                                • 2238
                                #188
                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                i think you are meaning to refer to operation enduring freedom, there was no operation freedom. and operation enduring freedom was a military effort to stop the taliban, not spread democracy.

                                the USA has never attempted to inject democracy into Syria, those people took their own initiative against a violent regime.
                                That's just semantics and I was referring to Operation Iraqi Freedom really:
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

                                Look, this isn't a dig at Americans. I'm not into bashing any country. My points were simple and clear.
                                Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                  • dyna mo
                                    just a fucking jerk
                                    • Dec 2008
                                    • 68184
                                    #189
                                    Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                    That's just semantics and I was referring to Operation Iraqi Freedom really:
                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

                                    Look, this isn't a dig at Americans. I'm not into bashing any country. My points were simple and clear.
                                    i never said you were bashing, or taking a dig at Americans, settle down. nevertheless, the operation you are actually referring to happened 15 years ago in Iraq, that has nothing to do with Syria in 2011-2015.

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                                      • dyna mo
                                        just a fucking jerk
                                        • Dec 2008
                                        • 68184
                                        #190
                                        by most all accounts, the Syrian uprising/civil war began within the entire arab spring ~2011. that uprising was a direct consequence of julian assange and wikileaks in 2011, it was furthered by the wikileaks release of the Syria files in 2012.


                                        Amnesty International hails WikiLeaks and Guardian as Arab spring 'catalysts' | World news | The Guardian

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                                          • RazorSharpe
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Aug 2001
                                            • 2238
                                            #191
                                            Originally posted by dyna mo
                                            i never said you were bashing, or taking a dig at Americans, settle down. nevertheless, the operation you are actually referring to happened 15 years ago in Iraq, that has nothing to do with Syria in 2011-2015.
                                            Syrians aren't the only refugee problem facing Europe. It's just the latest.

                                            Just because there was no direct hand in the Syrian conflict doesn't mean there was no involvement. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction.

                                            Western Europe and America have a long and storied past with the Middle East and Asia. In some cases causing irreparable damage (India - Pakistan and Iran - Iraq for example). To you and me, these are old events but to the people that live there; it is very ongoing.

                                            Actions on the ground and in government buildings do little to ally us to these people after we've already destroyed any semblance of normal life they may have had:
                                            Translator abandoned by UK is executed as he tries to flee Taliban | Daily Mail Online

                                            The entire Arab Spring episode came about as a direct result of Western involvement in the region, Syria included.
                                            Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                              • dyna mo
                                                just a fucking jerk
                                                • Dec 2008
                                                • 68184
                                                #192
                                                Originally posted by RazorSharpe

                                                The entire Arab Spring episode came about as a direct result of Western involvement in the region, Syria included.
                                                this is patently false.

                                                in fact Obama avoided involvement in Syria for years after the uprising started, many wanted him to help oust the dictator there, he did not.

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                                                  • Struggle4Bucks
                                                    Sieg Hi!
                                                    • May 2011
                                                    • 3615
                                                    #193
                                                    Assimilation, Tranportation or Annihilation.

                                                    There aren't many other options...

                                                    When political correctness becomes unsustainable...
                                                    it will look something like this:



                                                    Unfortunatly... the world is not a fairground...
                                                    Mankind is in it's puberty right now, and all the bullshit it produced and still produces (religion, morals, nationalism, etc) is something that should be overcome...
                                                    For that to happen... we need plenty of more wars... Piece is just tiredness...
                                                    ...unless you think the world as it is today is a perfect place...
                                                    Half troll half amazing!

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                                                      • RazorSharpe
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                        • 2238
                                                        #194
                                                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                        this is patently false.

                                                        in fact Obama avoided involvement in Syria for years after the uprising started, many wanted him to help oust the dictator there, he did not.
                                                        Patently false about the West's involvement in the region?

                                                        How so? Libya is most definitely "in the region" ....
                                                        Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                                          • dyna mo
                                                            just a fucking jerk
                                                            • Dec 2008
                                                            • 68184
                                                            #195
                                                            Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                            Patently false about the West's involvement in the region?

                                                            How so? Libya is most definitely "in the region" ....
                                                            from all expert accounts, the arab spring resulted from the information released by julian assange/wikileaks. i included a link (above) from the international rights organization, Amnesty International, that explains it well. wikileaks and julian assanges also released the syria file, which truly ignited the civil war in Syria, based on leaked information from the Syrian regime re: the people there.


                                                            https://wikileaks.org/syria-files/

                                                            that has a good overview.

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