Europeans: What is your take on the migration crisis ??

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  • Tasty1
    Bla bla blaa
    • Jan 2005
    • 9528

    #166
    3 months ago i met a Syrian refugee on Spanish class in Mexico. He flew a long route and entered through Mexico trough Brazil. Easy to stay there on visa, just do a visum run every 6 months..

    He was a cristian and told how his friends died, he was in the army but didn't even know who where the good and bad guys. He left his family alone and everyday watching the news, bombs falling around his old neighbourhood. Good man, living in the wrong part of the world. He was thinking going to USA or stay in Mexico.

    It is not europe that kills the refugees, but by promising them shelter they will keep coming on all sort of ships. Better to not pick them up, but prevent them to step on a dangerous ship.

    Maybe sent a big cruiseship there and sent them to Brazil. Cause the media there is blaming Europe (but they never will take any refugees themselves).

    Maybe it is an IS conspiracy. First we get millions of refugees that burn all our money. Make a part of the people angry cause they don't want that many foreigners and in the end IS will start the terror in EU.

    I think better help them in the region, sent them to rich arabic countries, bring a cruise ship in to go to South America and than start bombing the crazy people like IS. Else there will be millions more coming.

    Or can't we just sent them back with guns so they can fight for their own country?

    Europe must spent more money to do something together.

    So many solutions.

    everything is fake

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    • Mutt
      Too lazy to set a custom title
      • Sep 2002
      • 34431

      #167
      Originally posted by aka123
      What is the ridiculous part? It is desert. It won't sustain large amounts of any living thing. The water they use is fossil ground water and is bound to end. The farm land suffers from salinization, that actually destroyed one of the earliest human settlements around that area (and in human history altogether).


      "So how did Fertile Crescent peoples lose that big lead? The short answer is ecological suicide: They inadvertently destroyed the environmental resources on which their society depended. Just as the region's rise wasn't due to any special virtue of its people, its fall wasn't due to any special blindness on their part. Instead, they had the misfortune to be living in an extremely fragile environment, which, because of its low rainfall, was particularly susceptible to deforestation.

      When you clear a forest in a high-rainfall tropical area, new trees grow up to a height of 15 feet within a year; in a dry area like the Fertile Crescent, regeneration is much slower. And when you add to the equation grazing by sheep and goats, new trees stand little chance. Deforestation led to soil erosion, and irrigation agriculture led to salinization, both by releasing salt buried deep in the ground and by adding salt through irrigation water. After centuries of degradation, areas of Iraq that formerly supported productive irrigation agriculture are today salt pans where nothing grows."


      "Iraq's decline holds a broader significance. Many other countries today face similar crippling environmental problems, including the deforestation, overgrazing, erosion and salinization that brought down the Fertile Crescent. Other countries already crippled or nearly so by such problems include Haiti, Somalia, Rwanda, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Nepal, the Philippines and Indonesia."

      The Erosion of Civilization - latimes
      Very interesting article, while I knew about the Fertile Crescent I really never really knew why the Middle East became 'the cradle of civilization'. And it answers a question I've asked many times, how could the modern human species that has been around for 200,000 years, remaining hunter gatherers for 190,000 years, have progressed so little?
      That article spells it out, the Fertile Crescent was like a garden of Eden,so bountiful that farming evolved and surpluses of food so that people could do other things with their lives besides hunting for food.

      Our own native Indians must have been morons, they were still hunter gatherers when the Europeans got here, though they did do some farming as well. They didn't even have THE WHEEL! Of course the reason we're told the Indians were so primitive is that they were at one with Nature, that it was their choice.
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      • femdomdestiny
        Confirmed User
        • Apr 2007
        • 5182

        #168
        Can't read all that shit above. Situation is clear and simple. Barbaric and religious fanatics are getting inside and occupying europe without single shot fired. Those who don't have experience with muslim population shouldn't give their opinion. What is shown on TV is not even close to what Is hapenning every fucking day . Europe is islamized and they will fuck you up when there are enough of them. I can't wait to see faces of people like MaDalton when they come in his village and tell him that beer is forbidden and that he can choose will they cut his head off or he will accept Islam.

        War is there for many years and suddenly they rush in Europe? Bullshit. We are talking about tons and tons of military capable people (religious fanatics).

        yesterday I ve talked to cab driver. He said (in short, I don't have time to write everything now) that he took tons of money in previous period with people well organized which means next: they come like dirty and poor refugees. They stop him and tell him to drive to bank. Once they are out of bank, they give him from 50 up to 100 bucks to help them buy clothing in shopping malls. Next station is hotel where they pay more to cab driver who will come in the morning to take them. In the morning transformation is incredible, new clothes, sunglasses, perfume ....and next station is straight to the border to go further.

        Ask anyone who is working inside security (military,police) how dangerous thisshit is and how much damage they can do from the inside (remember Charlie Hebdo?)

        There are tons of them with money and not real refugees. Why they don't go to muslim countries but they choose Europe?

        https://translate.google.com/transla...-text=&act=url


        This is recent picture from Belgrade, there were no way that this kind of shit could be seen here before. Sick.




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        • femdomdestiny
          Confirmed User
          • Apr 2007
          • 5182

          #169
          Originally posted by MetaMan
          These people come from violent cultures, violent religions have already proven not to integrate well into western society. Are unwilling to integrate. But yet people still somehow want them to be allowed to migrate? It's absolutely unreal and crazy to think this way.

          A few sad photos does not explain the real situation.

          These people will have children who grow up. Feeling pushed outside of society because they do not integrate. Who will be angry and want revenge against the host countries. We are already seeing it.

          The western thinking countries should be taking 0 risk with people from these zones. It will be our own demise. Anyone who cannot see this is simply blind.

          Not to mention the fact that arabs on average have more children per family. What happens 10 years, 20 years, 30 years+ from now when the local population is decreasing per capita and immigrant population that in time will be greater in numbers starts voting ?

          These people DO NOT want to become western. They want to take from the western society.
          Absolute truth.
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          • aka123
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2014
            • 4450

            #170
            Originally posted by RazorSharpe
            I don't think you or your children need to worry about a migration issue from the Middle East due to water ...
            LOL. It is already part of the issue. Has been for decades. Lack of water adds to the area's general suckyness and has been part of the issues between Israel and Palestine for long time. There are Palestine refugees you know.

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            • aka123
              Confirmed User
              • Jul 2014
              • 4450

              #171
              Originally posted by Mutt
              Very interesting article, while I knew about the Fertile Crescent I really never really knew why the Middle East became 'the cradle of civilization'. And it answers a question I've asked many times, how could the modern human species that has been around for 200,000 years, remaining hunter gatherers for 190,000 years, have progressed so little?
              That article spells it out, the Fertile Crescent was like a garden of Eden,so bountiful that farming evolved and surpluses of food so that people could do other things with their lives besides hunting for food.

              Our own native Indians must have been morons, they were still hunter gatherers when the Europeans got here, though they did do some farming as well. They didn't even have THE WHEEL! Of course the reason we're told the Indians were so primitive is that they were at one with Nature, that it was their choice.
              The author of that has by the way answer or at least theory for your native indians too. It doesn't explain everything, but I think it establishes great foundation to approach these things.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guns,_Germs,_and_Steel


              About indians in generally, the indians in US region and the indians in Middle- and South America were vastly different.

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              • halfpint
                GFY's Halfpint
                • Jun 2007
                • 15223

                #172
                I think most of us have forgotten that we were the ones taking out a dictator in Iraq, then we thought it would be a good idea to go to Afganistan and sort that country out as well, then fuck me that still wasent good enough, so we then decided to go to Libya and take out that dictator. We then thought it would be an awesome idea to try and push our western ways onto people who have totaly different beliefs to what we have.

                Somehwere along the line we also thought that we could get different tribes to all of a sudden become best buddys and to work together to have peacefull westernised countrys in the middle east.

                The countries who decided to go and destabilize parts of the middle east are the countries who should be helping these refuges. We are the ones who caused an uprise in groups like ISIS and other groups. Im sure if any one of us were living in the conditions in Iraq, Syria and Libya you would be doing the same thing and trying to get your family out of those countries as far away as possible.

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                • aka123
                  Confirmed User
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 4450

                  #173
                  Originally posted by halfpint
                  Somehwere along the line we also thought that we could get different tribes to all of a sudden become best buddys and to work together to have peacefull westernised countrys in the middle east.
                  Well, as they have had that tribe shit for centuries or thousands of years, they should feel homely and cozy while fighting against each other from time to time. It is their way of life, let's not question it. No need to push "peaceful" western ways for them.

                  Maybe we should assume that the Syrian refugees are just victims of western propaganda, you know; peace and that stuff. And at the first note to return these misled people. They might otherwise miss some jolly fighting.

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                  • femdomdestiny
                    Confirmed User
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 5182

                    #174
                    Originally posted by halfpint
                    I think most of us have forgotten that we were the ones taking out a dictator in Iraq, then we thought it would be a good idea to go to Afganistan and sort that country out as well, then fuck me that still wasent good enough, so we then decided to go to Libya and take out that dictator. We then thought it would be an awesome idea to try and push our western ways onto people who have totaly different beliefs to what we have.

                    Somehwere along the line we also thought that we could get different tribes to all of a sudden become best buddys and to work together to have peacefull westernised countrys in the middle east.

                    The countries who decided to go and destabilize parts of the middle east are the countries who should be helping these refuges. We are the ones who caused an uprise in groups like ISIS and other groups. Im sure if any one of us were living in the conditions in Iraq, Syria and Libya you would be doing the same thing and trying to get your family out of those countries as far away as possible.

                    No one there was not stupid not to see what will happen if "dictators" were taken down. it was about profit. Those dictators maintained peace, progress and mostly peaceful life. If there were some problem,it was local. You could do legitimate business in Iraq, Libya and Syria before wars and they were paying without problems. There were no muslim extremism,and dictators had to be that,to maintain and resolve all that shit.

                    Anyway, what you sad is completely true and what is going on now is result of that. But it will be much worse, if those imigrants stay in Europe. They won't integrate, they will make their ghettos and societies. As they reproduce like a bugs, in few decades they will take over Europe and push their rules. By force. Already happened in Kosovo , it was completely same scenario like now but no one gave a fuck when they started terror and ambushes.Not only that, but "west " gave them their own state operated by smugglers, and criminals where from now they have starting point to go furhter.

                    It is a part of a plan, no one is stupid or blind not to see what will happen.
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                    • halfpint
                      GFY's Halfpint
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 15223

                      #175
                      Originally posted by aka123
                      Well, as they have had that tribe shit for centuries or thousands of years, they should feel homely and cozy while fighting against each other from time to time. It is their way of life, let's not question it. No need to push "peaceful" western ways for them.

                      Maybe we should assume that the Syrian refugees are just a victims of western propaganda, you know; peace and that stuff. And at the first note return these misled people.
                      U know what we never had this problem brfore and they did not want to leave the countries like they do now. This has all happened after we went over and fucked thier countries up for them so we only ahve ourselves to blame.

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                      • halfpint
                        GFY's Halfpint
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 15223

                        #176
                        Originally posted by femdomdestiny
                        No one there was not stupid not to see what will happen if "dictators" were taken down. it was about profit. Those dictators maintained peace, progress and mostly peaceful life. If there were some problem,it was local. You could do legitimate business in Iraq, Libya and Syria before wars and they were paying without problems. There were no muslim extremism,and dictators had to be that,to maintain and resolve all that shit.

                        Anyway, what you sad is completely true and what is going on now is result of that. But it will be much worse, if those imigrants stay in Europe. They won't integrate, they will make their ghettos and societies. As they reproduce like a bugs, in few decades they will take over Europe and push their rules. By force. Already happened in Kosovo , it was completely same scenario like now but no one gave a fuck when they started terror and ambushes.Not only that, but "west " gave them their own state operated by smugglers, and criminals where from now they have starting point to go furhter.

                        It is a part of a plan, no one is stupid or blind not to see what will happen.
                        Of course it will happen its allready happening in parts of London with Muslim areas and this is why there needs to be camps so the real refuges can be procesed and given some kind of life in a peacefull country. What David Cameron said is, he will not let refuges in from Turkey or Europe but he is willing to let people from the refuge camps come into the UK so they can be properly vetted. For once he has his head screwed on.

                        But at the end of the day we caused this shit so we have to deal with it

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                        • aka123
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                          • Jul 2014
                          • 4450

                          #177
                          Originally posted by halfpint
                          U know what we never had this problem brfore and they did not want to leave the countries like they do now. This has all happened after we went over and fucked thier countries up for them so we only ahve ourselves to blame.
                          Our news blamed the TV and I am all for it.

                          They watch how we have better living standards and suddenly they want to swap the jolly fighting to munching hamburgers or frog legs or bratwurst or whatever. Finland has the benefit that our traditional foods are not that popular abroad.

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                          • halfpint
                            GFY's Halfpint
                            • Jun 2007
                            • 15223

                            #178
                            Originally posted by aka123
                            Our news blamed the TV and I am all for it.

                            They watch how we have better living standards and suddenly they want to swap the jolly fighting to munching hamburgers or frog legs or bratwurst or whatever. Finland has the benefit that our traditional foods are not that popular abroad.


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                            • femdomdestiny
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 5182

                              #179
                              Originally posted by halfpint
                              Of course it will happen its allready happening in parts of London with Muslim areas and this is why there needs to be camps so the real refuges can be procesed and given some kind of life in a peacefull country. It's like Cameron said he will not let refuges in from Turkey or Europe but he is willing to let people from the refuge camps come into the UK so they can be properly vetted. For once he has his head screwed on.

                              But at the end of the day we caused this shit so we have to deal with it
                              I know, I was watching some videos online and was scared as shit when I saw what they are doing in London. And you are in right,this shit has to be solved. It is late already and last thing that should be done is to let millions to enter continent ,like it is happening now.

                              Imagine what would they do if they have technological advantage over western civilization? They would burn and ruin everything they can, just like they are doing now in IS territories (or like they did in Kosovo)

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                              • halfpint
                                GFY's Halfpint
                                • Jun 2007
                                • 15223

                                #180
                                Originally posted by femdomdestiny
                                I know, I was watching some videos online and was scared as shit when I saw what they are doing in London. And you are in right,this shit has to be solved. It is late already and last thing that should be done is to let millions to enter continent ,like it is happening now.

                                Imagine what would they do if they have technological advantage over western civilization? They would burn and ruin everything they can, just like they are doing now in IS territories (or like they did in Kosovo)

                                Yeah Iv seen that vid and more where they have Muslim vigilante groups telling British people in thier own country that they are not allowed to drink as its a Muslim area and also telling British girls they should cover them selves up in a Muslim areas.

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