Europeans: What is your take on the migration crisis ??

That's a bit harsh tarring all Muslims with the same brush. It's almost like IF Scottish folk said all the English were cunts, innit?

Seriously though, I'm sorry your dad came up against some hardline Muslims but the fact of the matter is, not all Muslims are fuckheads, just like not all Caucasians are war mongering fuckwits.

I, for example, would have given your dad a hard time for not sharing his ham sandwich. And if he had a bacon butty, I'm afraid he'd be lucky to get away with all his fingertips intact.

Honestly you just aren't very intelligent. I'm glad others in this thread saw it also.

i know, i know

Of cause they are not but there are a large percentage that are (from memory, didn't something like 70% of Muslims in the UK put Islamic law above British law in the last poll?), this is why we have had things like the ISIS flag flying above housing estates in south London, 1000+ trying to travel to the Islamic State, Muslims trying to enforce sharia law on British streets on non-Muslims, ect ...
The sad fact is that our policy at the moment is to let 100 people in in the hope that just one is a "good guy" rather than letting 100 in and hoping that 99 are "good guys". Once the bad guys are in political correctness stops the bad guys from being removed, we are stuck with them. It's only the British people that suffer from this state of affairs and eventually things will break in a very explosive way.

Seems like someone legitimately fearing their life, running away from war with thier family would be more then happy to get asylum in any country that is safe. The reason they don't want to asylum in Eastern European countries like CZ or Poland is the shit social we have here. Our unemployment benefit is like 600PLN (150euro) a month. Some undocumented "refugee" will get 5-6x that in Germany - and don't say that they are after the opportunities that Germany offers. There are wealthy and middle-class individuals that made something of themselves all over Europe, including in the poorer countries.

Sure, I feel bad for displaced families but it's naive to think that none of these people who are in no way being checked mean the people of europe any harm. There could easily be trained ISIS members or radicalized people ready to do all sorts of terrorist attacks here. They could have fake Syrian passports, or they could have REAL ones with fake identities because ISIS could easily have taken over some places where they are actually printed. Alot of these poorer eastern european countries, poland included, do not have the funding or infrastructure to watch these people, and i REALLY don't want to worry i'm going to die every time I leave the house, I don't want to worry my wife will get raped coming home from work in the evening (almost 100% of rapes in sweden nowadays are committed by non-european immigrants), I don't want anything to happen to my kids at school -and this is exactly how terrorism works.

Why have these problems instead of just not having them?

To anyone that thinks most of these people are war refugees, the minister of foreign affairs for Hungary announced that of the 150611 registered migrants that crossed the border into Hungary *THIS YEAR ALONE*, 50413 were Syrian nationals. That's only 1/3rd.

I respect and agree with your opinion. West has plundered and ruined the homes of these people. Refuge is the least they can give.

What do I think? I think Fuck My Goverment!!

Hungarian Police Spray Family Trying to Cross Border



Some hungarian people are human beings and Do Help these struggling refugees, but the general reaction to the situation is So Fucking DISTURBING, I feel shame because of I am a hungarian... The government and THE CHURCH here is acting evil + retarded

What is happening here is Major Crap in the eyes of a hippie like me.

Not saying this is an easy situation, neither that they should just GO to Germany or wherever they want.

But I am saying that we should treat them like HUMAN BEINGS not like shit. (((

Here is what Finnish war refugees looked like. It is quite different picture than about the Syrian, etc. refugees arriving to Europe. Journey is of course harder, but I don't think that it helps those kids position that able bodied men leave and kids and women are left behind.

that is simply not true - that's the problem cause people believe that

but still Germany is better to them than most other countries, yes

Leistungen für Flüchtlinge - Politik - WDR.de
"Ganz ausgenommen von den 359 Euro sind Kosten für Unterkunft, Heizung und Hausrat. Diese werden gesondert erbracht - wahlweise als Geld- oder Sachleistung."

So €359 per each adult refugee (presumably tax free) + allowances for housing, heating and household appliances. I'd imagine there are some additional amounts given for children's needs as well, but that article doesn't seem to cover it.
Compared to Poland, that 359 euro is roughly 1500 PLN which is above our minimum wage and roughly what a cashier at a grocery store cashier makes working 40-50 hours a week, and they have to pay for their own housing.

That being said, I do agree with you that Germany and the German people would treat them better. As far as public opinion goes, whereas Germans might be 50/50 for taking them, The polish population is about 90/10 or more against taking them.

Totally unrelated to the argument at hand. those children were evacuated and it happened all over Europe, they were not refugees and their parents were left behind to help with the war effort. the children returned after the danger was over. totally unlike what is happening now. contrary to what the media tells you, almost all of the migrants are young men looking for an easier life and most of them are up to 1000 miles away from the war they claim to be escaping from but still want to push on westwards. Its a myth that all of those so-called asylum seekers are actually genuine refugees. yes, some are but by far, they are mostly economic migrants.

You should NOT believe a single word from a hungarian politician ...

I don't think that you really got my post.

Our media has told that most arriving refugees are men because the others can't stand the long and hard journey. You know; family escapes to Turkey for example, and then their able bodied men leaves to Europe after better life. At least we are told that most/ big part of refugees are actually women and kids, they just don't come to Europe. But anyways, the end result is that they have already escaped the war when they start their journey to Europe.

The easy solution to still taking refugees would be following: If you are escaping something, then is the thing you escape at in the country you come from? Like if you cross border, is the country on the side you are coming from the country where are the things you escape for. If not, then there is no need/ valid reason to cross border.

AKA we would take refugees pretty much only from neighboring countries. It is easy to return back and the refugees are more close culturally, etc. than the citizens of that country. So, easier for everyone. Familiar, fun and easy to return.

I am glad to see how maturely the EU is dealing with this issue

I will be in Paris and a few days in Nice late this month for two weeks -- I guess I will see for myself. Hopefully, no one will wash up on shore (dead?).

Two days ago the Eurostar train was "attacked" near Calais by immigrants climbing on the train cars' roofs trying to cross into the the UK -- illegally. Apart from endangering themselves and the passengers of the train it does show both the desperation of the immigrants and also their lawlessness. Last year I was in London and in Paris -- I saw for myself Europe's immigrant situation and "problem."

North Africa is an EU problem and Libya is a NATO problem. Syria is both a pan-Arabia and a USA problem -- NATO has only played a minor role.

We can invest trillions in these wars, stress out our own economies and destroy the economies of the nations we war with yet we are not responsible for the damage we cause to civilians in these countries we war with?