Europeans: What is your take on the migration crisis ??

Sure, Europe has done shitloads of war, I am not denying that. But I don't see how that changes the current situation. Other than the how that despite of the continuous wars the Europeans have mostly stayed in Europe, excluding the big migration to American continent. Though moving outside Europe would have meant quite probable slavery, especially in Muslim countries those did enslave Europeans to start with.

But anyways; the end conclusion is that there have been wars all around the globe and there will be wars all around the globe. The answer for that is not that people in war countries re-establishes themselves to elsewhere. The answer is that they either war the war or end the war peacefully.

Think about if there will be war in China for example or in India? They both have population over billion. Who in the fuck is going to give them shelter elsewhere? The capacity of our ecosystem is not enough for that. It will fucking collapse. As will the society too.

The situation in the Middle East is awful. Whoever is to blame is something we can settle later. It's a powder keg that needs little to set it off, before the US invasion, there was 9/11, Iraq invading Kuwait, Iran/Iraq war, the rest have never been ruled successfully by a lenient peace loving Government. Shit happens there as often as I shit.

The situation is what it is, millions in fear of their lives or coming here to look for work. Work we haven't got, unless it holds down living standards.

We can't ignore real refugees, but we can't let them wander across Europe or the Middle East aimlessly. The solution is obvious, sadly it raises bad memories.

Huge camps, built with containers, prefabricated blocks, sheds, etc. One room per 2-3 people, until demand is lower than supply, free food and medical care. Here's the hard part, they have to be fenced in. The migrants don't want to be in most of Europe, they want to be in places they choose, where they can work, and are given more.

The people in those countries are already complaining about migration, any Government that opens the doors, risks losing elections. Germany and France goes to the polls in 2017, EU 2019, UK 2020, politicians had better solve the problem fast, if they want to keep their jobs.

I think these people shouldn't be let in, even more so the economic migrants. They are now freely roaming around europe, with no one checking them at all, with absolutely no documents. They have more rights then i do - I can't drive legally into another country without my ID. These people could be ISIS members, they could be carrying all sorts of african diseases, etc. We really, really do not need this shit - and i'm very happy that Poland is only accepting so few of them.

I've seen videos of a migrant throwing his wife and small child on the ground with police all around them then pretending that police are beating him or did it. It was on BBC, except they didn't show the part of him throwing himself on the ground along with his wife.

I've seen videos of black guys from Ghana (which is not at war, nor especially poor) complaining about the conditions of the refugee camp. They were evidently expecting a free castle each and instead got tents. Seriously, all these guys living there can't fucking fix a slightly leaking tent? They are going to be great additions to the german "work force"...

The media spins it like it's all starving women and children, when in fact in every single video I have seen it's like 90% young men. How many children do you see here?


The fact they all want to go to germany or sweden and do not accept hungary, austria, etc suggests that they are really after the social and not escaping war. I'm sure SOME are, but come on...

Schengen zone should be completely shut down until this blows over.

Look at all these children here too...

kurds in turkey yea

do NOT post reality, you will be labeled a racist

no knucklehead. the answer is integration, & putting sweethart memories of a once pure local population to rest. the people who are leaving syria et al are the smart ones. they are facing hostile situation, but are braving it for survival. those are the types of people i want coming to my country. i would take a syrian refugee with big tits over a lot of our local lollygagging youths any day of the week.

sending them back, camps, trains, never worked, never will. most will either go back when syria get it together, or they will become european muslims, just like the USA is full of latinos & its not going to be reversed no matter how much a spoiled billionaire wants it otherwise.

because bringing in muslim immigrants by the masses have turned out so great in every european country. They are really an asset to western society.

so what...80% of local populations in USA are just as useless. if your gonna have some standard like, only the smart or skilled can stay, well about your local zoo animals? you gonna send them packing?

at least in USA, the best & brightest ending up being immigrants from europe. The smart euros fled europe & they made the USA great instead. the native americans never invented shit, got their asses beat. Thats life.

in those hordes of middle eastern men, most will be just as useless as people you grew up with, & a couple of them will accomplish things far in excess of you. thats life.

i think...

yes, that's the one



I see many people here, and on other places, asking why those refugees don't stay in Turkey as they are safe there. Well, would anybody normal wanted to stay in some shitty camp knowing he/she will probably be there for rest of the life with possibility to die soon from some disease or killed by someone? Or try to get normal life somewhere else?

https://www.google.cz/search?q=syria...FckDGgodYYEMQw

And of course everyone wants to go to Germany or Sweden. Who, the fuck, would like to stay in Hungary, Serbia, Bulgaria or ask asylum in Croatia or Poland? Knowing that they will get same or even worse treatment as in Turkey and no possibility to make some life anytime in the future. Eventually offered ham sandwich with beer... Isn't that in human nature that man will look for better life and opportunity? Their country is dead, their property destroyed, no life there anymore. And people from other countries, from Africa, between choosing to die from starvation or killed by some militia, and trying to get some normal life in some other place, isn't choice obvious? Especially for some young man who have 20 yrs? How much you have to be desperate to take a chance in crappy boat to get from African sun to shitty Swedish weather? Very much, but you will maybe get opportunity to send your mother few hundred bucks in year if you are lucky.

Maybe I don't understand some things and can't say much, but letting those people die on sea or in trucks, can only tell me that this "civilization" obviously deserve to finish like Rome finished once. It's not western way of life, it's not religion, it's just bastardship.

LOL, shows what you know is happening in our "enriched" Europe. People have been attacked and seriously harmed for drinking beer in parts of London that are now "Muslim", my own dad ended up in a stand-off with an immigrant scum because my dad dared to eat a ham sandwich outside a cafe in east London. He worked in east London before he retired and he could tell you some real horror stories about so-called integrated immigrants. Those people do not want to be western and will not be happy until Britain is no better than the countries they apparently are so desperate to run from. If it's this bad now, what will it be like in 10-20 years time when their numbers reach the point where they outnumber the indigenous population ... after all that has worked out so well for every other indigenous people that have been outnumbered by immigrants hasn't it.

Roman empire was finished by Barbarian invasions or more neutrally Migration period. Suits well.

I don't know what you mean by "letting people die"? Should they be offered free boat/ car ride or something? How far our responsibility goes?

Europe has had wars too; much of the Europe was more or less in ruins after WWII and it was rebuilt. They can do the same in Syria too instead of choosing the easiest option. War the war and rebuild the country.

It by the way would have been quite lame WWII if the soldiers and civilians would have just moved far enough elsewhere. If they can't even do war properly, then come on.. This situation is solvable by war and more exactly by either side winning the war; hopefully the better side. They don't seem that eager to contribute for their society, why they would contribute for ours?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristobal_Colon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Columbus

Christopher Columbus (/kəˈlʌmbəs/; Italian: Cristoforo Colombo; Spanish: Cristóbal Colón; Portuguese: Cristóvão Colombo;

Just a little reminder about history.

i'll give you this: the UK is a good example how political correctness is going the wrong way, when a supermarket in CZ announced selling halal food the shitstorm was so huge that they bowed down and removed it again

and once again - i wrote already that i neither welcome people that only ask for asylum for economical reasons (if they are well educated there are other ways to come here) and i would also prefer if the Syria situation was dealt with locally

but i am trying to understand the motivation of those people that try to escape for a better life and make their way despite of the danger - obviously the desperation is huge.

and i swear i will never be that asshole that celebrates dead children like many others do now