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  • Relentless
    www.EngineFood.com
    • Aug 2006
    • 5697

    #1

    Business STFU NEWS: The AshleyMadison Data Dump

    *** Please Read This Carefully ***
    This thread is different than others on GFY because GFY has asked me to Moderate this series of "STFU News" threads. The hope is that these threads will allow lurkers, frequent posters and some of the people who have been posting less to all engage in an intelligent discussion here on GFY about an interesting business relevant topic without being trolled. To accomplish that goal, GFY has asked me to be the moderator of STFU News threads, and that includes deleting or editing posts that are: off topic, trolling, or otherwise aimed at derailing the discussion. Please note, I will *only* be moderating the STFU News threads. I hope you will speak your mind in an intelligent, professional and constructive manner. If this proves to be a useful way of doing things, we will keep it going.
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    The first topic is: The Recent Ashley Madison Data Dump
    Does the release of the information affect your business?
    Does it change how you plan to handle your own site data?
    Do you see any business opportunities as a result of the dump?
    Will it be good or bad for the industry overall?
    Anything else you think is worth mentioning?

    For anyone who is unaware of the backstory:
    Ashley Madison had a massive amount of member data hacked by a third party who attempted to extort the site owners into taking the entire site offline. They threatened to make the stolen data (including as many as 30M email addresses, credit card numbers, names, addresses and all the rest) public and eventually followed through with that threat. Now a 9GB file is being circulated on torrents with that data available to virtually anyone. Sites are popping up, asking people to enter their email address to see if their information is in the dump files, and many people are dealing with the awkward situation of possibly having to explain why they had an account on a site designed to assist people seeking to have affairs (including Josh Duggar).


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  • The Porn Nerd
    Living The Dream
    • Jun 2009
    • 19784

    #2
    I think this is a great idea! I am happy to be first onboard with these comments:

    I think what happened with Ashley Madison will definitely affect my business (and all online businesses). First, there will be - surprise! - a bump in sales!

    All those CC numbers, emails, etc will be used to join porn sites. That's the Good News. The Bad News (of course) is we will soon be entering Chargeback Hell. CC companies will tighten security measures, consumers will be more wary to give out their personal data, and identity thieves will laugh all the way to the bank.

    A big giant GO FUCK YOURSELF to all involved with Ashley Madison (owners, members and hackers).
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    • OmahaJoe
      Confirmed User
      • Dec 2011
      • 314

      #3
      thoughts of conspiracy

      It was not too long before the announce of the breach that a couple of adult forums had threads about Ashley Madison having the shady business practice of paying a data removal fee.

      Maybe it is just me but right before the breach they were advertising like mad. I almost wonder if this little database leak is just a PR stunt. Maybe the door was just left unlocked.

      Does the release of the information affect your business?

      Not at the moment. I have been playing with the idea of starting a dating site and just using a white label service. But now I question if building a brand around data I don't control is worth it.

      Does it change how you plan to handle your own site data?

      Not really. I come from an information security background. I try and keep up with the latest trends of access and data encryption. Most hacks are honestly just the simplest issue or lazy admins.

      Do you see any business opportunities as a result of the dump?
      Account management services... A third-party that holds the keys to your data and or hookup sites maybe even social media sites. You send one e-mail or something is sent at the time of your death and under contract they pull it all for you.

      Will it be good or bad for the industry overall?
      Bad for dating and hookup... I think content sites will be fine.

      This is a great idea! Great way to get some good conversation going. Keep it up!
      I dabble in this and a little in that.

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      • Barry-xlovecam
        It's 42
        • Jun 2010
        • 18083

        #4
        We are PCI-DSS compliant and have taken measures to secure our customers' personal data.

        We are not in a competitive marketplace with Ashley Madison however there has to be some overlap with customers confidence in general with disclosing any personal information. This ''hack'' is bad for confidence in adult websites -- that is the overall affect on all of us -- negative publicity IMHO.

        We do not buy stolen data under any circumstances so profiting from this criminal activity is not a factor for us.

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        • Relentless
          www.EngineFood.com
          • Aug 2006
          • 5697

          #5
          Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
          A big giant GO FUCK YOURSELF to all involved with Ashley Madison (owners, members and hackers).
          Do you feel the owners could have done something better or differently? Are you taking precautions to avoid a similar hack of your own network in the future?


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          • Relentless
            www.EngineFood.com
            • Aug 2006
            • 5697

            #6
            Originally posted by OmahaJoe
            Do you see any business opportunities as a result of the dump?Account management services... A third-party that holds the keys to your data and or hookup sites maybe even social media sites. You send one e-mail or something is sent at the time of your death and under contract they pull it all for you.
            Solid post Joe, but you lost me on this point. How would that work?


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            • Relentless
              www.EngineFood.com
              • Aug 2006
              • 5697

              #7
              Originally posted by Barry-xlovecam
              We are PCI-DSS compliant and have taken measures to secure our customers' personal data.We are not in a competitive marketplace with Ashley Madison however there has to be some overlap with customers confidence in general with disclosing any personal information. This ''hack'' is bad for confidence in adult websites -- that is the overall affect on all of us -- negative publicity IMHO.We do not buy stolen data under any circumstances so profiting from this criminal activity is not a factor for us.
              Do you think PCI-DSS compliance is all that would be needed to achieve true data security? Is it reasonable, as some have suggested, to expect a tightening of data security regulations beyond what was necessary before this hack happened?


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              • rankscom
                Rick Moby
                • Sep 2001
                • 433

                #8
                How big of an effect this has remains to be seen, but no doubt it'll have added negative consequence to our space. When I speak to individuals about paying for porn, the usual factors (besides that porn is free) are viruses and credit card fraud. Fraud may be a loose term, but a tremendous amount of damage has been done.
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                • DlxClem
                  Confirmed User
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 178

                  #9
                  I think it's raising people's awareness that their information is not safe anywhere. I think this helps big brands that can be trusted. Though Im sure they're not safer

                  Great idea btw, love the Business aspect of this, so this can bring more serious discussions on GFY
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                  • takethebluepill
                    So Fucking Banned
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 241

                    #10
                    Seeing an impact today with Adult Friend Finder. My member distribution for today shows a large dip in North American members. Makes sense, as this is where the mainstream news sources have really picked up this story.

                    But then again, one day does not a trend make. Time will tell and fingers crossed as this happened at the most inopportune time...when the end of summer/fall sales traditionally kick it up a notch.

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                    • Relentless
                      www.EngineFood.com
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 5697

                      #11
                      Originally posted by DlxClem
                      I think it's raising people's awareness that their information is not safe anywhere. I think this helps big brands that can be trusted. Though Im sure they're not safer. Great idea btw, love the Business aspect of this, so this can bring more serious discussions on GFY
                      Interesting point... so do you believe the AshleyMadison hack should be viewed the same way the public views the recent hacks of Target, HomeDepot and others? My feeling is just because it's people trying to have affairs the public and the media will look at it very differently from people who got hacked buying pliers at HomeDepot... even though it's nearly an identical security breach.


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                      • OmahaJoe
                        Confirmed User
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 314

                        #12
                        A service that you let handle setting up all of your accounts. They setup dummy e-mails.. Hold the payment cards in another name.

                        So you gain more deniability if info is leaked... I'm not [email protected] and the card number is a card registered to another company

                        They can also offer these services for social media... And if they learn of your demise can kill all of your accounts before your wife and kids ever find out.
                        I dabble in this and a little in that.

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                        • takethebluepill
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 241

                          #13
                          Originally posted by OmahaJoe
                          A service that you let handle setting up all of your accounts. They setup dummy e-mails.. Hold the payment cards in another name.

                          So you gain more deniability if info is leaked... I'm not [email protected] and the card number is a card registered to another company

                          They can also offer these services for social media... And if they learn of your demise can kill all of your accounts before your wife and kids ever find out.
                          And then someone hacks them. There's always going to be a data trail somewhere.

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                          • Relentless
                            www.EngineFood.com
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 5697

                            #14
                            Originally posted by OmahaJoe
                            A service that you let handle setting up all of your accounts. They setup dummy e-mails.. Hold the payment cards in another name. So you gain more deniability if info is leaked... I'm not [email protected] and the card number is a card registered to another company. They can also offer these services for social media... And if they learn of your demise can kill all of your accounts before your wife and kids ever find out.
                            What happens when that service gets hacked? I mean, take a look at LifeLock as the example of a company that swore they would protect user data at all costs... they just got hammed by the FTC for the 2nd time and lost 56% of their share price overnight for failing to take even rudimentary precautions. Also, the largest hack so far was a US agency losing millions of people's data, so a government managed repository is also likely to not be a bulletproof solution... right ?


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                            • SilentKnight
                              Megan Fox's fluffer
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 24818

                              #15
                              To be honest, I think it'll only have an impact for as long as it remains in the media spotlight. When the next big story or world event comes along, consumer amnesia will kick in and most things will go back to status quo.

                              I'm sure the legal ripples will continue...but the average person probably won't hear about a lot of it - if it's not covered much by mainstream media. The audience is too fractured these days.

                              Sony had that huge security breach a while back...and what overall impact did that have?

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