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  • AdultKing
    Raise Your Weapon
    • Jun 2003
    • 15601

    #51
    There you have it.

    3.2 You must provide fourteen (14) days notice of non-renewal to Us should You not wish to renew this Agreement after the Initial Term.
    The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.

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    • Tulku
      Confirmed User
      • Aug 2003
      • 672

      #52
      Originally posted by AdultKing
      There you have it.



      The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.

      Well the OP said he never signed/approved any contract with them. That means their terms added at some page didn't mean shit. Everyone can have some page with terms, but the contract must be signed/approved or something.

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      • AdultKing
        Raise Your Weapon
        • Jun 2003
        • 15601

        #53
        Originally posted by Tulku
        Well the OP said he never signed/approved any contract with them. That means their terms added at some page didn't mean shit. Everyone can have some page with terms, but the contract must be signed/approved or something.
        If the OP was sent a quote, that quote linked to the terms, he paid the first term and rolled over into a second term and now wants to cancel then he's out of luck.

        As I said, it doesn't matter how crap Choopa might be, if that's the agreement that was made then the OP will need to wear it.

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        • Colmike9
          (>^_^)b
          • Dec 2011
          • 7230

          #54
          Well, I'm never using Choopa...
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          • hentaiwebmaster
            Confirmed User
            • Apr 2013
            • 69

            #55
            Originally posted by AdultKing
            There you have it.



            The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.
            They did not have terms and condition attached to my contract.
            Did not check I agree to terms of conditions, it just asked for electronic signature.
            http://clitgames.com

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            • hentaiwebmaster
              Confirmed User
              • Apr 2013
              • 69

              #56
              Originally posted by _Richard_


              does the OP have the original contract?
              I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.
              http://clitgames.com

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              • xXXtesy10
                Fakecoin Investor
                • Jul 2012
                • 7127

                #57
                Originally posted by hentaiwebmaster
                I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.
                what site you run?
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                • AdultKing
                  Raise Your Weapon
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 15601

                  #58
                  Originally posted by xXXtesy10
                  what site you run?
                  Yeah, I'd like to know that too

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                  • Colmike9
                    (>^_^)b
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 7230

                    #59
                    Originally posted by hentaiwebmaster
                    I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.
                    Post a link, then
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                    • hentaiwebmaster
                      Confirmed User
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 69

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Colmike7
                      Post a link, then
                      The following errors occurred with your submission:
                      1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.
                      http://clitgames.com

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                      • AdultKing
                        Raise Your Weapon
                        • Jun 2003
                        • 15601

                        #61
                        Originally posted by hentaiwebmaster
                        The following errors occurred with your submission:
                        1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.
                        Create an account and upload it to Sign in - BBS PICS Image Hosting and I will post it.

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                        • Colmike9
                          (>^_^)b
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 7230

                          #62
                          Originally posted by hentaiwebmaster
                          The following errors occurred with your submission:
                          1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.
                          Then spell it out:
                          website dot com
                          Join the BEST cam affiliate program on the internet!
                          I've referred over $1.7mil in spending this past year, you should join in.
                          I make a lot more money in the medical field in a lab now, fuck you guys. Don't ask me to come back, but do join Chaturbate in my sig, it still makes bank without me touching shit for years..

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                          • Jigster715
                            So Fucking Banned
                            • Jul 2015
                            • 1459

                            #63
                            istealhentai.com

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                            • AdultKing
                              Raise Your Weapon
                              • Jun 2003
                              • 15601

                              #64
                              *crickets*

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                              • sandman!
                                Icq: 14420613
                                • Mar 2001
                                • 15431

                                #65
                                i dont think you will be getting a refund
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                                • hentaiwebmaster
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2013
                                  • 69

                                  #66
                                  prntscr DOT com/84kpab
                                  http://clitgames.com

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                                  • baddog
                                    So Fucking Banned
                                    • Apr 2001
                                    • 107089

                                    #67
                                    Originally posted by sandman!
                                    i dont think you will be getting a refund
                                    That's why he wants to charge back.

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                                    • The Porn Nerd
                                      Living The Dream
                                      • Jun 2009
                                      • 19784

                                      #68
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                                      • 420
                                        cuck
                                        • Mar 2003
                                        • 11571

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by hentaiwebmaster
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                                        • plaster
                                          So Fucking Banned
                                          • Apr 2015
                                          • 2295

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by hentaiwebmaster
                                          They did not have terms and condition attached to my contract.
                                          Did not check I agree to terms of conditions, it just asked for electronic signature.
                                          Dude, it DOESN"T matter shit if you signed those terms or not. You didn't realize those terms because they are obviously well hidden.

                                          Do you know how many chargebacks I get and the reason states:
                                          Prove your customer was using the service.

                                          Charge it back for the reasons I listed on page 1. They will credit you that money immediately. Then, if Choopa files a refute claim and they win, simply do a second chargeback and tell your bank rep. to include proof of use.

                                          You didn't use it, you will win it. Be persistent and if bank rep says they can't do a second chargeback, talk to the manager. You will get your money back. And you need to do it quickly because there are time frame limits.

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                                          • Colmike9
                                            (>^_^)b
                                            • Dec 2011
                                            • 7230

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by 420
                                            The very first line should have been enough for anyone to not click Continue..

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                                            • The Porn Nerd
                                              Living The Dream
                                              • Jun 2009
                                              • 19784

                                              #72
                                              Doesn't the word 'Choopa' mean 'ass rape' in Romanian?
                                              That should've been your first clue.
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                                              • Colmike9
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                                                • Dec 2011
                                                • 7230

                                                #73
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                                                • xXXtesy10
                                                  Fakecoin Investor
                                                  • Jul 2012
                                                  • 7127

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by sandman!
                                                  i dont think you will be getting a refund
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                                                  • xXXtesy10
                                                    Fakecoin Investor
                                                    • Jul 2012
                                                    • 7127

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by Colmike7
                                                    Where's Phil and Pardo to help out?...
                                                    WARNING: Stay Away From Marlboroack aka aka Brandon Ackerman
                                                    http://gfy.com/21169705-post8.html
                                                    Donny Long is Felon, Stalker, Scammer & Coward
                                                    http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/...lon-int-761244

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                                                    • sandman!
                                                      Icq: 14420613
                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                      • 15431

                                                      #76
                                                      $450 a month per managed server is not that expansive i dont know what some of you guys are thinking.
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                                                      • Colmike9
                                                        (>^_^)b
                                                        • Dec 2011
                                                        • 7230

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by sandman!
                                                        $450 a month per managed server is not that expansive i dont know what some of you guys are thinking.
                                                        ..I thought that was for one, my bad.

                                                        Still high, though..
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                                                        • pr0phet
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2005
                                                          • 1041

                                                          #78
                                                          Just chargeback, You will win easily. Those terms are bogus for Visa rebills.
                                                          Pr0phet

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                                                          • Cyber Fucker
                                                            Hmm
                                                            • Sep 2005
                                                            • 12642

                                                            #79
                                                            I like webair. No problems here.

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                                                            • AdultKing
                                                              Raise Your Weapon
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 15601

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by sandman!
                                                              $450 a month per managed server is not that expansive i dont know what some of you guys are thinking.
                                                              It wasn't initially clear it was managed.

                                                              I am very glad we don't need to rely on managed servers.

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                                                              • 3xmedia
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2004
                                                                • 5738

                                                                #81
                                                                I wouldn't pay more than $250/month for a fully managed server with those specs
                                                                ---

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                                                                • CDSmith
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                  • 51460

                                                                  #82
                                                                  There's paying extra for exceptional service and then there's taking it up the ass.

                                                                  If you're going to be in this business you best know the difference.
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                                                                  • C H R I S
                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                    • Nov 2005
                                                                    • 10842

                                                                    #83
                                                                    This is a great ad for Choopa..... lol
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                                                                    • MetaMan
                                                                      I AM WEB 2.0
                                                                      • Jan 2003
                                                                      • 28682

                                                                      #84
                                                                      It's shady as fuck to bury something deep into terms. I guarantee you they know exactly wtf they are trying to do also.

                                                                      That's not what honest and reputable companies do. Especially with something like hosting that useage is so easy to prove.

                                                                      I would never do business with a company like this. Its similar to how a used car salesmam acts. It makes you wonder what else they are up to.

                                                                      I can make up terms that says you have to give me your kidnies if you dont cancel 365 days in advance. It's just bad business to operate solely based on fine print.

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                                                                      • TheSquealer
                                                                        Mayor of Thneedville
                                                                        • Oct 2004
                                                                        • 26174

                                                                        #85
                                                                        I'm always a guy to argue for personal accountability but to me, his situation goes beyond contract terms.

                                                                        We all sign contracts without reading them. We all accept terms and conditions (often many times a day) without reading them. We all make assumptions as to what is reasonable, fair and ethical and we all enter into agreements in good faith that we'll be treated fairly. We do not expect someone to hide shitty clauses designed solely to cause needless financial harm to a customer.

                                                                        It's not like he got a great deal on servers and Choopa went deep into their own pockets upfront. The ass raping of their own customer by Choopa started on day one and they simply try to continue it because some ass clown who clearly wasn't an attorney added some greedy "fuck you" language to the agreement.

                                                                        As I've read (skimmed) it, basically choopa is banging his card under the premise of the contract auto-renewing should he fail to contact them within a very narrow window as if it was a $29.95 gym membership. First, I am lot an expert in contract law but I've never seen a contract which "renewed" at the time of its expiration, which wasn't on a month to month basis. The only real reason to do that in the business world is to ensure there is an agreement in place or which remains in force no matter what. It's not a way to sucker idiots into a second commitment of the same term as the first. I would guess that provision is neither legal not enforceable. Just because two jerkoffs agree to stab each other in the face with a knife, that does not mean the agreement is legal. This also all crosses into a large body of US law relating to unfair business practices.

                                                                        He should have known what he was signing.

                                                                        He should have done his homework and shopped around for servers.

                                                                        I seriously doubt that clauses is legally enforceable or even compliant with Visa/MC merchant requirements.

                                                                        I'd take it to my bank and let them decide... then I'd accept the decision.

                                                                        This is still nothing more than cunty behavior from a cunty hosting company. It's not a way to conduct business by anyone's standards... Particularly in such a competitive space.
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                                                                        • The Porn Nerd
                                                                          Living The Dream
                                                                          • Jun 2009
                                                                          • 19784

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by CDSmith
                                                                          There's paying extra for exceptional service and then there's taking it up the ass.

                                                                          If you're going to be in this business you best know the difference.
                                                                          I don't often quote myself but couldn't resist:

                                                                          Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                          Doesn't the word 'Choopa' mean 'ass rape' in Romanian?
                                                                          That should've been your first clue.
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                                                                          • xXXtesy10
                                                                            Fakecoin Investor
                                                                            • Jul 2012
                                                                            • 7127

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by The Porn Nerd
                                                                            Doesn't the word 'Choopa' mean 'ass rape' in Romanian?
                                                                            That should've been your first clue.
                                                                            mean 'suck' in spanish no? choopar

                                                                            WARNING: Stay Away From Marlboroack aka aka Brandon Ackerman
                                                                            http://gfy.com/21169705-post8.html
                                                                            Donny Long is Felon, Stalker, Scammer & Coward
                                                                            http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/...lon-int-761244

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                                                                            • Mediamix
                                                                              Dutch Webmaster!
                                                                              • Sep 2013
                                                                              • 3228

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Need hosting! Spam me.

                                                                              Edit: Something went wrong
                                                                              Sig too big

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                                                                              • xXXtesy10
                                                                                Fakecoin Investor
                                                                                • Jul 2012
                                                                                • 7127

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by Mediamix
                                                                                Edit: Something went wrong

                                                                                WARNING: Stay Away From Marlboroack aka aka Brandon Ackerman
                                                                                http://gfy.com/21169705-post8.html
                                                                                Donny Long is Felon, Stalker, Scammer & Coward
                                                                                http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/...lon-int-761244

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                                                                                • freecartoonporn
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Jan 2012
                                                                                  • 7683

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Originally posted by Mr Pheer
                                                                                  I pay $12 a month for hosting (billed at $144 yearly) and that brings in 5 figures a month.

                                                                                  I remember a time when i was paying $6k a month for servers alone to make just barely more than I'm bringing in now. Choopa was one of the hosts i had. They werent cheap, but they let me do they stuff that I do and never said anything about it as long as I didnt bring in complaints.
                                                                                  Man, I got two questions for you:

                                                                                  What do you do?
                                                                                  And how do you do it?
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                                                                                  • freecartoonporn
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Jan 2012
                                                                                    • 7683

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    next time get server from ovh and hire someone for management, for 70 bucks per server/month.,
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                                                                                    • j3rkules
                                                                                      VIP
                                                                                      • Jul 2013
                                                                                      • 22111

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      I hope you will at least learn from it.

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                                                                                      • Oracle Porn
                                                                                        Affiliate
                                                                                        • Oct 2002
                                                                                        • 24433

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by 420
                                                                                        I think he forgot to photoshop his name out in the quote title....


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                                                                                        • Denny
                                                                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                          • Feb 2005
                                                                                          • 17389

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by freecartoonporn
                                                                                          Man, I got two questions for you:

                                                                                          What do you do?
                                                                                          And how do you do it?

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                                                                                          • hentaiwebmaster
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Apr 2013
                                                                                            • 69

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by MetaMan
                                                                                            It's shady as fuck to bury something deep into terms. I guarantee you they know exactly wtf they are trying to do also.

                                                                                            That's not what honest and reputable companies do. Especially with something like hosting that useage is so easy to prove.

                                                                                            I would never do business with a company like this. Its similar to how a used car salesmam acts. It makes you wonder what else they are up to.

                                                                                            I can make up terms that says you have to give me your kidnies if you dont cancel 365 days in advance. It's just bad business to operate solely based on fine print.
                                                                                            Agrees, It is buried deep into their terms which I never even checked box off.
                                                                                            http://clitgames.com

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                                                                                            • hentaiwebmaster
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Apr 2013
                                                                                              • 69

                                                                                              #96
                                                                                              Originally posted by Oracle Porn
                                                                                              I think he forgot to photoshop his name out in the quote title....
                                                                                              I did , but who cares.
                                                                                              http://clitgames.com

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                                                                                              • hentaiwebmaster
                                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                                • Apr 2013
                                                                                                • 69

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by freecartoonporn
                                                                                                next time get server from ovh and hire someone for management, for 70 bucks per server/month.,
                                                                                                never heard of it...Interesting way to save money.
                                                                                                http://clitgames.com

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                                                                                                • hentaiwebmaster
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • Apr 2013
                                                                                                  • 69

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by TheSquealer
                                                                                                  I'm always a guy to argue for personal accountability but to me, his situation goes beyond contract terms.

                                                                                                  We all sign contracts without reading them. We all accept terms and conditions (often many times a day) without reading them. We all make assumptions as to what is reasonable, fair and ethical and we all enter into agreements in good faith that we'll be treated fairly. We do not expect someone to hide shitty clauses designed solely to cause needless financial harm to a customer.

                                                                                                  It's not like he got a great deal on servers and Choopa went deep into their own pockets upfront. The ass raping of their own customer by Choopa started on day one and they simply try to continue it because some ass clown who clearly wasn't an attorney added some greedy "fuck you" language to the agreement.

                                                                                                  As I've read (skimmed) it, basically choopa is banging his card under the premise of the contract auto-renewing should he fail to contact them within a very narrow window as if it was a $29.95 gym membership. First, I am lot an expert in contract law but I've never seen a contract which "renewed" at the time of its expiration, which wasn't on a month to month basis. The only real reason to do that in the business world is to ensure there is an agreement in place or which remains in force no matter what. It's not a way to sucker idiots into a second commitment of the same term as the first. I would guess that provision is neither legal not enforceable. Just because two jerkoffs agree to stab each other in the face with a knife, that does not mean the agreement is legal. This also all crosses into a large body of US law relating to unfair business practices.

                                                                                                  He should have known what he was signing.

                                                                                                  He should have done his homework and shopped around for servers.

                                                                                                  I seriously doubt that clauses is legally enforceable or even compliant with Visa/MC merchant requirements.

                                                                                                  I'd take it to my bank and let them decide... then I'd accept the decision.

                                                                                                  This is still nothing more than cunty behavior from a cunty hosting company. It's not a way to conduct business by anyone's standards... Particularly in such a competitive space.
                                                                                                  I asked my bank for a chargeback, Will see how it goes.
                                                                                                  http://clitgames.com

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                                                                                                  • AMDWarrior
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • Nov 2006
                                                                                                    • 1488

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    I don't think they reward chargebacks for being a fucking idiot..

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                                                                                                    • Mr Pheer
                                                                                                      So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                      • Dec 2002
                                                                                                      • 22083

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by AMDWarrior
                                                                                                      I don't think they reward chargebacks for being a fucking idiot..
                                                                                                      Actually they do. They totally do.

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