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AdultKing 08-14-2015 05:27 AM

There you have it.

Quote:

3.2 You must provide fourteen (14) days notice of non-renewal to Us should You not wish to renew this Agreement after the Initial Term.
The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.

Tulku 08-14-2015 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20550604)
There you have it.



The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.


Well the OP said he never signed/approved any contract with them. That means their terms added at some page didn't mean shit. Everyone can have some page with terms, but the contract must be signed/approved or something.

AdultKing 08-14-2015 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tulku (Post 20550613)
Well the OP said he never signed/approved any contract with them. That means their terms added at some page didn't mean shit. Everyone can have some page with terms, but the contract must be signed/approved or something.

If the OP was sent a quote, that quote linked to the terms, he paid the first term and rolled over into a second term and now wants to cancel then he's out of luck.

As I said, it doesn't matter how crap Choopa might be, if that's the agreement that was made then the OP will need to wear it.

Colmike9 08-14-2015 07:27 AM

Well, I'm never using Choopa...

hentaiwebmaster 08-14-2015 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 20550604)
There you have it.



The OP entered into a contract, he has rolled over into the next term. So he is basically stuck until the current term expires.

They did not have terms and condition attached to my contract.
Did not check I agree to terms of conditions, it just asked for electronic signature.

hentaiwebmaster 08-14-2015 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Richard_ (Post 20550524)
:2 cents:

does the OP have the original contract?

I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.

xXXtesy10 08-14-2015 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550679)
I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.

what site you run? :winkwink:

AdultKing 08-14-2015 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXXtesy10 (Post 20550680)
what site you run? :winkwink:

Yeah, I'd like to know that too :winkwink:

Colmike9 08-14-2015 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550679)
I would post it here but don't have 30 posts yet so gfy doe not let me post pics.

Post a link, then

hentaiwebmaster 08-14-2015 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20550689)
Post a link, then

The following errors occurred with your submission:
1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.

AdultKing 08-14-2015 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550699)
The following errors occurred with your submission:
1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.

Create an account and upload it to Sign in - BBS PICS Image Hosting and I will post it.

Colmike9 08-14-2015 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550699)
The following errors occurred with your submission:
1. You are only allowed to post URLs to other sites after you have made 30 posts or more.

Then spell it out:
website dot com :upsidedow

Jigster715 08-14-2015 08:46 AM

istealhentai.com

AdultKing 08-14-2015 09:01 AM

*crickets*

sandman! 08-14-2015 10:17 AM

i dont think you will be getting a refund :2 cents::2 cents:

hentaiwebmaster 08-14-2015 10:54 AM

prntscr DOT com/84kpab

MrBottomTooth 08-14-2015 11:09 AM

Putting stuff like that in the terms is a dirty way of doing business.

baddog 08-14-2015 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20550781)
i dont think you will be getting a refund :2 cents::2 cents:

That's why he wants to charge back.

The Porn Nerd 08-14-2015 11:45 AM

Contact your bank.

420 08-14-2015 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550826)
prntscr DOT com/84kpab

http://i.imgur.com/Xn7PTh2.png

plaster 08-14-2015 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hentaiwebmaster (Post 20550678)
They did not have terms and condition attached to my contract.
Did not check I agree to terms of conditions, it just asked for electronic signature.

Dude, it DOESN"T matter shit if you signed those terms or not. You didn't realize those terms because they are obviously well hidden.

Do you know how many chargebacks I get and the reason states:
Prove your customer was using the service.

Charge it back for the reasons I listed on page 1. They will credit you that money immediately. Then, if Choopa files a refute claim and they win, simply do a second chargeback and tell your bank rep. to include proof of use.

You didn't use it, you will win it. Be persistent and if bank rep says they can't do a second chargeback, talk to the manager. You will get your money back. And you need to do it quickly because there are time frame limits.

Colmike9 08-14-2015 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20550852)

The very first line should have been enough for anyone to not click Continue..

I'd contact your bank, though.

The Porn Nerd 08-14-2015 12:13 PM

Doesn't the word 'Choopa' mean 'ass rape' in Romanian?
That should've been your first clue.

Colmike9 08-14-2015 12:14 PM

Where's Phil and Pardo to help out?... :disgust

xXXtesy10 08-14-2015 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20550781)
i dont think you will be getting a refund :2 cents::2 cents:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

xXXtesy10 08-14-2015 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colmike7 (Post 20550867)
Where's Phil and Pardo to help out?... :disgust

http://i1-news.softpedia-static.com/...scles-On-2.jpg

sandman! 08-14-2015 12:17 PM

$450 a month per managed server is not that expansive i dont know what some of you guys are thinking.

Colmike9 08-14-2015 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20550873)
$450 a month per managed server is not that expansive i dont know what some of you guys are thinking.

..I thought that was for one, my bad.

Still high, though..

pr0phet 08-14-2015 12:58 PM

Just chargeback, You will win easily. Those terms are bogus for Visa rebills.

Cyber Fucker 08-14-2015 01:00 PM

I like webair. No problems here.

AdultKing 08-14-2015 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 20550873)
$450 a month per managed server is not that expansive i dont know what some of you guys are thinking.

It wasn't initially clear it was managed.

I am very glad we don't need to rely on managed servers.

3xmedia 08-14-2015 01:35 PM

I wouldn't pay more than $250/month for a fully managed server with those specs :2 cents:

CDSmith 08-14-2015 01:45 PM

There's paying extra for exceptional service and then there's taking it up the ass.

If you're going to be in this business you best know the difference.

C H R I S 08-14-2015 02:21 PM

This is a great ad for Choopa..... lol

MetaMan 08-14-2015 03:01 PM

It's shady as fuck to bury something deep into terms. I guarantee you they know exactly wtf they are trying to do also.

That's not what honest and reputable companies do. Especially with something like hosting that useage is so easy to prove.

I would never do business with a company like this. Its similar to how a used car salesmam acts. It makes you wonder what else they are up to.

I can make up terms that says you have to give me your kidnies if you dont cancel 365 days in advance. It's just bad business to operate solely based on fine print.

TheSquealer 08-14-2015 03:02 PM

I'm always a guy to argue for personal accountability but to me, his situation goes beyond contract terms.

We all sign contracts without reading them. We all accept terms and conditions (often many times a day) without reading them. We all make assumptions as to what is reasonable, fair and ethical and we all enter into agreements in good faith that we'll be treated fairly. We do not expect someone to hide shitty clauses designed solely to cause needless financial harm to a customer.

It's not like he got a great deal on servers and Choopa went deep into their own pockets upfront. The ass raping of their own customer by Choopa started on day one and they simply try to continue it because some ass clown who clearly wasn't an attorney added some greedy "fuck you" language to the agreement.

As I've read (skimmed) it, basically choopa is banging his card under the premise of the contract auto-renewing should he fail to contact them within a very narrow window as if it was a $29.95 gym membership. First, I am lot an expert in contract law but I've never seen a contract which "renewed" at the time of its expiration, which wasn't on a month to month basis. The only real reason to do that in the business world is to ensure there is an agreement in place or which remains in force no matter what. It's not a way to sucker idiots into a second commitment of the same term as the first. I would guess that provision is neither legal not enforceable. Just because two jerkoffs agree to stab each other in the face with a knife, that does not mean the agreement is legal. This also all crosses into a large body of US law relating to unfair business practices.

He should have known what he was signing.

He should have done his homework and shopped around for servers.

I seriously doubt that clauses is legally enforceable or even compliant with Visa/MC merchant requirements.

I'd take it to my bank and let them decide... then I'd accept the decision.

This is still nothing more than cunty behavior from a cunty hosting company. It's not a way to conduct business by anyone's standards... Particularly in such a competitive space.

The Porn Nerd 08-14-2015 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 20550934)
There's paying extra for exceptional service and then there's taking it up the ass.

If you're going to be in this business you best know the difference.

I don't often quote myself but couldn't resist:

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20550865)
Doesn't the word 'Choopa' mean 'ass rape' in Romanian?
That should've been your first clue.


xXXtesy10 08-14-2015 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Porn Nerd (Post 20550865)
Doesn't the word 'Choopa' mean 'ass rape' in Romanian?
That should've been your first clue.

mean 'suck' in spanish no? choopar :1orglaugh

https://www.steroid.com/images/blog/1023/378_540.jpg

Mediamix 08-14-2015 03:55 PM

Need hosting! Spam me.
 
Edit: Something went wrong

xXXtesy10 08-14-2015 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mediamix (Post 20550986)
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freecartoonporn 08-15-2015 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 20550491)
I pay $12 a month for hosting (billed at $144 yearly) and that brings in 5 figures a month.

I remember a time when i was paying $6k a month for servers alone to make just barely more than I'm bringing in now. Choopa was one of the hosts i had. They werent cheap, but they let me do they stuff that I do and never said anything about it as long as I didnt bring in complaints.

Man, I got two questions for you:

What do you do?
And how do you do it?

freecartoonporn 08-15-2015 06:36 AM

next time get server from ovh and hire someone for management, for 70 bucks per server/month.,

j3rkules 08-15-2015 07:16 AM

I hope you will at least learn from it.

Oracle Porn 08-15-2015 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20550852)

I think he forgot to photoshop his name out in the quote title....

Denny 08-15-2015 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20551262)
Man, I got two questions for you:

What do you do?
And how do you do it?

:1orglaugh:thumbsup:pimp

hentaiwebmaster 08-15-2015 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20550967)
It's shady as fuck to bury something deep into terms. I guarantee you they know exactly wtf they are trying to do also.

That's not what honest and reputable companies do. Especially with something like hosting that useage is so easy to prove.

I would never do business with a company like this. Its similar to how a used car salesmam acts. It makes you wonder what else they are up to.

I can make up terms that says you have to give me your kidnies if you dont cancel 365 days in advance. It's just bad business to operate solely based on fine print.

Agrees, It is buried deep into their terms which I never even checked box off.

hentaiwebmaster 08-15-2015 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oracle Porn (Post 20551434)
I think he forgot to photoshop his name out in the quote title....

I did , but who cares.

hentaiwebmaster 08-15-2015 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freecartoonporn (Post 20551325)
next time get server from ovh and hire someone for management, for 70 bucks per server/month.,

never heard of it...Interesting way to save money.

hentaiwebmaster 08-15-2015 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20550968)
I'm always a guy to argue for personal accountability but to me, his situation goes beyond contract terms.

We all sign contracts without reading them. We all accept terms and conditions (often many times a day) without reading them. We all make assumptions as to what is reasonable, fair and ethical and we all enter into agreements in good faith that we'll be treated fairly. We do not expect someone to hide shitty clauses designed solely to cause needless financial harm to a customer.

It's not like he got a great deal on servers and Choopa went deep into their own pockets upfront. The ass raping of their own customer by Choopa started on day one and they simply try to continue it because some ass clown who clearly wasn't an attorney added some greedy "fuck you" language to the agreement.

As I've read (skimmed) it, basically choopa is banging his card under the premise of the contract auto-renewing should he fail to contact them within a very narrow window as if it was a $29.95 gym membership. First, I am lot an expert in contract law but I've never seen a contract which "renewed" at the time of its expiration, which wasn't on a month to month basis. The only real reason to do that in the business world is to ensure there is an agreement in place or which remains in force no matter what. It's not a way to sucker idiots into a second commitment of the same term as the first. I would guess that provision is neither legal not enforceable. Just because two jerkoffs agree to stab each other in the face with a knife, that does not mean the agreement is legal. This also all crosses into a large body of US law relating to unfair business practices.

He should have known what he was signing.

He should have done his homework and shopped around for servers.

I seriously doubt that clauses is legally enforceable or even compliant with Visa/MC merchant requirements.

I'd take it to my bank and let them decide... then I'd accept the decision.

This is still nothing more than cunty behavior from a cunty hosting company. It's not a way to conduct business by anyone's standards... Particularly in such a competitive space.

I asked my bank for a chargeback, Will see how it goes.

AMDWarrior 08-15-2015 10:56 AM

I don't think they reward chargebacks for being a fucking idiot..:2 cents:


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