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Just watched the rest of the debate off the DVR. Even as a liberal, I found something to agree on with just about every candidate, except all the "life begins at conception" horseshit. And the Iran deal opposition is so obviously partisan it's not even funny.
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What other things are you referring too? And even though I disagree 100% about a "wall" and all this b.s. about "illegals" (the only problem is being caused by the U.S. "war on drugs" that is bringing all the violence)...I have to ask you: Do you have to be "extreme right" to have an opinion on illegals immigrants in the country? Do only "Extreme Right" people want a "wall" on the border? No "Liberal" people think that way at all? Does that mean that all "Left" and all "Right" people think in unison and have no individual thoughts or beliefs? Remember crockett, there's a reason that Fox News and the Republican Party want Trump out. And it's not for fear of hurting their "brand" (how ridiculous is it that we even entertain the notion that a political party has a "brand" lol ) It's because he doesn't answer to them or kiss their ass. Did you see the tweet he sent out to all the Republican candidates who showed up at the Koch Brothers gathering last week? "I wish good luck to all of the Republican candidates that traveled to California to beg for money etc. from the Koch Brothers," Trump tweeted Sunday. "Puppets?" |
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This is all a big show for him. |
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I think you're way offbase. He's the most liberal candidate they have. Did you watch the debate and see them attacking him for not being conservative enough? And in awesome Trump style...he didn't give a shit about that. Lol |
Trump's been writing books about America and been going on about being president for quite a while now. this isn't a show.
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Funny how some people are acting like Trump has something to say or piece or that anyone is going to learn something new about him. He had a hit TV show, he written countless books and he's been a media fixture for decades. He was the same cunt in the debates as he was leading up to the debates as he was in The Apprentice and as he has been in every interview ever. THAT is why he is popular right now. He's not fake and he'll tell it like it is.
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People who consider themselves intellectuals rarely are, what they are is people who read what real intellectuals write and transfer that intellectualism unto themselves simply because they can read and parrot what they've read. People who like comedy often are the same, enjoying comedy doesn't make you funny, it makes you somebody who can recognize a smart comedian. Politics THANKFULLY doesn't attract real intellectuals, intellectuals couldn't run a Subway franchise. They do have their place in the world, their ideas both good and terrible influence the rest of us. |
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What's even more disappointing is all of this talk about de-funding Planned Parenthood. Abortions is only about 3% of what they do. Removing all of the support Planned Parenthood does for young mothers and children is a massive miscarriage of justice. And I honestly do not know why we are still discussing this - We have Roe vs Wade, and it's been the law of the land since then. Anyone who says the Supreme Court should not be making such decisions utterly fails to understand how our government works, and thus should not be running for President. |
Huckabee's point is that several scientists and doctors are now saying that science proves that life does begin at conception.
I personally am torn at this point in my life. Always thought an abortion wasn't that big a deal when I was younger and that it's a woman's right. Now...I try to stay out of the discussion, because I just am not sure anymore. And IF the pro-life people are correct...then we might have been having the biggest slaughter of all times. :( Again, I'm not saying that. I'm still "pro-choice". But I'm not so sure of myself on the subject anymore. Anyway, here is a sample of what Huckabee was talking about: Dr. Jerome LeJeune, professor of genetics at the University of Descartes in Paris, was the discoverer of the chromosome pattern of Down syndrome. Dr. LeJeune testified to the Judiciary Subcommittee, “after fertilization has taken place a new human being has come into being.” He stated that this “is no longer a matter of taste or opinion,” and “not a metaphysical contention, it is plain experimental evidence.” He added, “Each individual has a very neat beginning, at conception.” You can google it up and find a lot more on it. I just did and that was one of the ones I found. I couldn't find any doctors or scientists claiming otherwise. The only dissension I could find to Huckabee's assertion was from bloggers and extreme left crazies who were busy taking shots at him and making fun of Republicans. |
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The one who supported planned parenthood made that same argument that Rochard made in the post you quoted of him. The other woman replied: "Why is it neccessary for taxpayers to fund them? I thought ObamaCare was supposed to take care of all that" And you know what? She's 100% RIGHT. ObamaCare forces everyone to have insurance including all the prenatal and pregnancy. So Planned Parenthood's services in that dept. are obsolete under the Affordable HealthCare Act. |
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Yes, there should be some middle ground. Late term abortion are dangerous. But what I heard last night said "Life starts at conception". No, it doesn't. That is just forcing someone's religious agenda down my throat. |
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hah, best reason i've heard yet for defunding. well that and the fact our government over spends. |
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its ok though. its OK to be pro choice & recognize the blob is a life form & is extinguished. many living things never have a chance to sprout & prosper. protecting every blob for its potential of life is a fools errand anyway. its totally tied to obsolete concepts of people being children of a god. but dont act like its not a life. if your mom was in a different mindset, you coulda been an abortion. be grateful mom wanted you. :2 cents: |
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Is it that late term abortions are dangerous to the mother that makes them of concern or that they end a viable human life? I don't believe it has to have anything to do with religion at all. I think there is also a credible scientific basis for the "life starts at conception" line of thought. Either way I don't see rebellion against religion and/or religious morals as a reason to give up our humanity in recognizing that abortion ends a human life and that on some level it is still barbaric and wrong even if it is permitted. . |
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I mean shit, look at how he acted on Twitter last night.. The guy acts like a child or like a spoiled brat whom never got told no.. Then of course there is the entire fact he's yet to do anything but pound his chest and call people names.. He's not gonna be president.. |
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Republicans aren't very good at looking at their own ideology and determine it doesn't work.. They just keep trying the same dumb shit over and over like a crazy guy beating his head against the wall, expecting the wall to move.. |
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Then it's settled...none of us should vote for Trump to be the Republican nominee.
Oh wait. None of us can anyway, you have to be a registered Republican. Have we all been arguing over nothing? lol |
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But what I don't understand is the mindset that ONLY career/lifetime bureaucrats are capable of governing. Especially when they have so definitively done such a horrible job of it. The founding fathers never envisioned that kind of thing. Any citizen was supposed to be able to serve (and then go back home and resume their real lives). Are you satisfied with what the 2 party system of politicians has accomplished? Wars. Huge debt. Our freedoms being slowly eroded. A govt. that is basically trying to run our lives from cradle to grave. How can you not want to sweep that shit clean and stop feeding into the false idea that these politicians are somehow magically smarter than you are? They aren't. And none of them had ANY experience in govt. until they started doing it. Just look at the President for a prime example. He had zero experience. And yet, he is the President. Don't you ever wonder why we all keep voting in the same 2 parties over and over in alternate patterns? And things just keep getting worse... |
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I will continue treating you like you deserve to be treated. You wanted to make this about name calling when you started with the name calling. Don't be the punkass little bitch you are and whine when I serve it back to you. What a fuckwad. Attacks me then gets butthurt when I fight back. |
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Latest poll has Ben Carson winning the debate, and 30% of repubs say Trump lost the debate.
Ben Carson Scores Big Win at the First GOP Debate followed by Marco... -- WASHINGTON, Aug. 7, 2015 /PRNewswire/ -- What's hilarious is all night after the debate Trump went on a juvenile Twitter meltdown against Megyn Kelly. Yea, this is the kind of dumbass we need having the nuke codes. We would be at war with 100 different countries if he were ever elected (which he won't be). |
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Even then I think he can still run as a Republican. |
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especially when you have to make shit up in order to do so. dumbfuck. |
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