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  • GregE
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    • Jul 2004
    • 2704
    #51
    Originally posted by SuckOnThis
    Oh this keeps getting better


    Trump Would ‘Love’ Sarah Palin in His Cabinet: ‘She’s a Special Person’
    Now, that might actually hurt Trump.

    I'm a little surprised that he got suckered into saying that. Given the venue in which he said it, he really should have seen that question coming and had a suitably evasive answer ready.

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      • Barry-xlovecam
        It's 42
        • Jun 2010
        • 18083
        #52
        Originally posted by GregE
        Now, that might actually hurt Trump.

        I'm a little surprised that he got suckered into saying that. Given the venue in which he said it, he really should have seen that question coming and had a suitably evasive answer ready.
        Another Trump Troll -- Trump is getting entertaining

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          • crockett
            in a van by the river
            • May 2003
            • 76818
            #53
            Originally posted by Paul Markham
            In the UK and most of Europe the swing of the less educated would be to the Left. They see Socialism as the side that will provide more for them.
            The ironic thing in the U.S.,is many of the people whom are against so called socialism, have their hand out in the welfare line and have been on it for years are Republican just the same as Democrat.. Yet if you listen the the right they pretend it's just a inner city issue..

            Personally, I'm against long term welfare unless it's for elderly or disabled, but the problem is these people whom are habitual offenders of public assistance usually have kids and it's the kids that suffer. These habitual offenders come in all races and they vote both republican and democrat, despite what the right loves to proclaim that it's just an inner city black issue. You go to many of the southern and western states and they are filled with white people on foot stamps, just like when you go to big cities with large black or Hispanic population which are on them..

            It's just another example, where an issues is politicized to use as a wedge between two teams rather than trying to fix the issues.
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              • crockett
                in a van by the river
                • May 2003
                • 76818
                #54
                Originally posted by GregE
                Now, that might actually hurt Trump.

                I'm a little surprised that he got suckered into saying that.

                Given the venue in which he said it, he really should have seen that question coming and had a suitably evasive answer ready.
                Trump isn't going to be president he's on a ego trip. Normal people buy a fancy car, boat, airplane to feed their ego or mid life crisis.. trump is running for president...

                He doesn't have anyone he could just hand over his Trump empire and walk away for 4 to 8 years. Once he became president he would be forced to go 100% hands off his little Trump Empire.. He has no one to step into his shoes for that period of time and much of his business would likely not survive..

                At best he's betting that a run for president and the republican nomination will make him lots of money selling his brand rights.. His major income source is selling his brand rights, he's trying to expand that and on a massive ego trip. He isn't nor has he ever been a serious contender. The fact he's a front runner, shows how nieive the people whom support him are..

                It will be Jeb Bush or maybe Walker as the Republican on the ticket come the 2016 elections and Trump will have long ago faded and ruined any chance they might of had.
                In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                  • Robbie
                    Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 20960
                    #55
                    I know what you're saying crockett...but other than a handful of sensationalist politicians over the decades, I'm unaware that the "right" "proclaim" what you are saying.

                    Have any of the current Republican candidates ever "proclaimed" that?
                    Don't get me wrong. I have known plenty of rednecks in Florida, Georgia, and the Carolina's (states I lived in the past) who would say it while swigging beer they bought with food stamps in front of their single wide trailer.

                    But most of them never voted anyway and came from families who were traditionally democrat.
                    Of course these hicks were neither democrat or republican. They were like the majority of people in the U.S. and never vote or even watch the news to know when an election is. lol

                    I know that almost all the people I knew like that were pro-war (idiots), believe Obama is a "muslim" (idiots), and think that blacks are all on welfare (idiots).

                    But the "right" "proclaiming" such nonsense? Come on man, no need to exaggerate things.

                    What I hear from the Republican candidates is their pitch to try and get the black vote. Which is that they believe they stand for opportunity as opposed to their claim that Democrats just want to give them "free stuff" and keep them down.

                    It's all b.s. of course from both sides. But I'm only responding to your statement that the "right" "proclaim" that blacks are all on welfare.

                    Damn it: Looks like crockett changed his posts wording from what I was addressing. Oh well... never mind.
                    -Robbie
                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                      • Robbie
                        Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                        • Aug 2002
                        • 20960
                        #56
                        Originally posted by crockett
                        He doesn't have anyone he could just hand over his Trump empire and walk away for 4 to 8 years. Once he became president he would be forced to go 100% hands off his little Trump Empire.. He has no one to step into his shoes for that period of time and much of his business would likely not survive..
                        Trump said back in April that his 2 sons and his daughter are able and ready to take the reigns of his "little" Trump empire.

                        So you're wrong on that.

                        And I'd like to gleefully point out that EVERY prediction you've made about Trump so far has been dead wrong. lol

                        Trump simply isn't playing by the "business as usual" rules of the 2 party ruling class.

                        In the end you may be correct. But he has blew right past what the pundits (that you parrot) have predicted so far like swatting away flies.
                        -Robbie
                        ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                          • Milfer
                            Confirmed User
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 1149
                            #57
                            there is no surprise for me uneducated=stupids=trumps

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                              • crockett
                                in a van by the river
                                • May 2003
                                • 76818
                                #58
                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                Trump said back in April that his 2 sons and his daughter are able and ready to take the reigns of his "little" Trump empire.

                                So you're wrong on that.

                                And I'd like to gleefully point out that EVERY prediction you've made about Trump so far has been dead wrong. lol

                                Trump simply isn't playing by the "business as usual" rules of the 2 party ruling class.

                                In the end you may be correct. But he has blew right past what the pundits (that you parrot) have predicted so far like swatting away flies.
                                My only prediction I've made about Trump, is he won't be on the ticket come election time. He will have figured out a way to kill his campaign so he has no chance or will drop out. He isn't a serious long term candidate, he's a blip on the radar..

                                I liken his support base the same as Ron Paul's support base. (Yep the other extremely popular fantasy land Republican candidate from days past) You couldn't tell a Ron Paul supporter that he wasn't gonna be a primary contender. It was the same dumb funded support biased on 20 second sounds clips in the media.. It's almost identical in the sheepish following.
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                                  • Rochard
                                    Jägermeister Test Pilot
                                    • Dec 2001
                                    • 75733
                                    #59
                                    Trump Palin 2016. I see this coming already.
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                                    Brooklyn, NY

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                                      • Jman
                                        Already an AI veteran
                                        • Sep 2003
                                        • 22838
                                        #60
                                        Stupid runs deep in the Trumps family bloodline

                                        https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...t-conservation

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                                          • Robbie
                                            Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                            • Aug 2002
                                            • 20960
                                            #61
                                            That's some nasty shit.

                                            Right in league with that fucking idiot Dentist that killed that lion. No reason for this kind of thing.
                                            -Robbie
                                            ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                              • crockett
                                                in a van by the river
                                                • May 2003
                                                • 76818
                                                #62
                                                Originally posted by Jman
                                                Stupid runs deep in the Trumps family bloodline

                                                https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...t-conservation

                                                Hope his son gets what he deserves... fucking CUNT
                                                Big game hunting in Africa has long been a favorite past time for rich people whom want to pretend they are the greatest hunters in the world. It's nothing new and yea it's pretty sick to shoot animals which are pretty much caged on a hunting reserve.

                                                However it's nothing out of the ordinary.. I don't agree with it, but it's been going on for 100s of years. IMO that article was very badly written and way over board considering this is a long practiced thing..

                                                I think Trump's a fool, but this isn't on the same lines as that dentist for example whom killed a protected animal. Sure, use it as an example of why it's bad, but to try to make it seem like they are blood thirsty killers makes me think the article writer is a crazed peta member.
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                                                  • Robbie
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                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 20960
                                                    #63
                                                    Originally posted by crockett
                                                    Big game hunting in Africa has long been a favorite past time for rich people whom want to pretend they are the greatest hunters in the world. It's nothing new and yea it's pretty sick to shoot animals which are pretty much caged on a hunting reserve..
                                                    You're leaving out the native African poachers who do it every day. And also you're leaving out the millions of animals being killed by African warlords as they conduct civil wars all over the continent.

                                                    It's a miracle there are ANY animals left in Africa.
                                                    -Robbie
                                                    ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                      • AMDWarrior
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Nov 2006
                                                        • 1488
                                                        #64
                                                        Originally posted by sandman!
                                                        most of the country is filled with idiots so what ?


                                                        Yep like all the fools that voted for the clown show we have in office now.. I'm sure the op was first to,the voting booth.. Fucking idiot.

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                                                          • crockett
                                                            in a van by the river
                                                            • May 2003
                                                            • 76818
                                                            #65
                                                            Originally posted by Robbie
                                                            You're leaving out the native African poachers who do it every day. And also you're leaving out the millions of animals being killed by African warlords as they conduct civil wars all over the continent.

                                                            It's a miracle there are ANY animals left in Africa.
                                                            I'm not for these big game hunts.. I think it's wrong, but I'm saying the article is way overboard and dramatized. They killed 3 animals between the two of them.. While yes I'd like to punch a fucker that kills an elephant like they did, it's still far from a killing rampage as the article presents..

                                                            I'm all for protecting the environment and animals. I'm also a realist in the fact, that I know this kind of thing has gone on for 100s of years and it still goes on today. Their hunting trip was nothing out of the ordinary, which is what the article should of presented..

                                                            Instead the article put way too much emphasis on this single hunt like it was some massive killing spree, instead this kind of thing happens over there quite often.. (I'm betting daily).

                                                            IMO the article was more about trying to villanize the two rich boys than to shame the actual practice of hunting caged animals...or hunting endangered or protected animals..
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                                                              • Grapesoda
                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                • Jul 2003
                                                                • 46238
                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by crockett
                                                                Those are deaths, not percentages of various races in military service and you also used decades old wars.. Even the first Gulf War was 15 years ago.. The country has changed a lot..

                                                                Also.. You are being nieive as fuck to think every white US soldier is Republican..
                                                                I think you're mentally ill... I say shed blood for you and your reply: to think every white US soldier is Republican ... wow...

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                                                                  • crockett
                                                                    in a van by the river
                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                    • 76818
                                                                    #67
                                                                    Originally posted by Grapesoda
                                                                    I think you're mentally ill... I say shed blood for you and your reply: to think every white US soldier is Republican ... wow...
                                                                    My post is about uneducated white people supporting trump.. You come along and say "they went to war to protect your freedom".

                                                                    The locgical assumption from your response is either you assume all military people are white republicans or are uneducated Trump supporters.. Perhaps you can clarify your thoughts as to the meaning of your previous post?
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                                                                      • Paul Markham
                                                                        Too old to care
                                                                        • Jun 2001
                                                                        • 52942
                                                                        #68
                                                                        Originally posted by crockett
                                                                        The ironic thing in the U.S.,is many of the people whom are against so called socialism, have their hand out in the welfare line and have been on it for years are Republican just the same as Democrat.. Yet if you listen the the right they pretend it's just a inner city issue..

                                                                        Personally, I'm against long term welfare unless it's for elderly or disabled, but the problem is these people whom are habitual offenders of public assistance usually have kids and it's the kids that suffer. These habitual offenders come in all races and they vote both republican and democrat, despite what the right loves to proclaim that it's just an inner city black issue. You go to many of the southern and western states and they are filled with white people on foot stamps, just like when you go to big cities with large black or Hispanic population which are on them..

                                                                        It's just another example, where an issues is politicized to use as a wedge between two teams rather than trying to fix the issues.
                                                                        Long term the West has to do something major about unemployment and low skilled, low paid jobs.

                                                                        Populations are increasing and good jobs are getting more technical, the old "factory fodder jobs, no longer exist. The people to fill them are increasing. The people at the top won't pay enough taxes to support those at the bottom.

                                                                        A simmering pot today, will start to boil and then what?

                                                                        Are there any links between States voting v income v education?



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                                                                          • poncabare
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                                                                            • Jul 2007
                                                                            • 2552
                                                                            #69
                                                                            Like obamas voters were all rhodes scholars

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                                                                              • crockett
                                                                                in a van by the river
                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                • 76818
                                                                                #70
                                                                                Originally posted by poncabare
                                                                                Like obamas voters were all rhodes scholars
                                                                                Obama had mass appeal to more than just a fringe base.. There are GFY Righties whom claim to have voted for Obama the first go around.

                                                                                Trump does not appeal to the masses, but rather the fringe base. In other words, yes there is a very BIG diffrence.
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                                                                                  • crockett
                                                                                    in a van by the river
                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                    • 76818
                                                                                    #71
                                                                                    Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                    Long term the West has to do something major about unemployment and low skilled, low paid jobs.

                                                                                    Populations are increasing and good jobs are getting more technical, the old "factory fodder jobs, no longer exist. The people to fill them are increasing. The people at the top won't pay enough taxes to support those at the bottom.

                                                                                    A simmering pot today, will start to boil and then what?

                                                                                    Are there any links between States voting v income v education?

                                                                                    This is much of the problem, in the past uneducated workers could always count on a factory job which was usually backed by union pay levels that meant pay was kept well above the poverty levels and the middle class was strong..

                                                                                    Republicans went to war against unions and have pretty much won. Combine this with loss of that 30 year factory job with retirement and medical, then you see what we end up with today... However no Republicans are ever gonna say the truth about the current situation, so instead they use illegals and welfare moms as the scape goats while laghing all the way to the bank at their flock of sheep supporters..
                                                                                    In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                                                        • 68184
                                                                                        #72
                                                                                        i would bet most bernie sanders supporters are white & uneducated.

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                                                                                          • GregE
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                                            • 2704
                                                                                            #73
                                                                                            Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                            Trump isn't going to be president he's on a ego trip. Normal people buy a fancy car, boat, airplane to feed their ego or mid life crisis.. trump is running for president...

                                                                                            He doesn't have anyone he could just hand over his Trump empire and walk away for 4 to 8 years. Once he became president he would be forced to go 100% hands off his little Trump Empire.. He has no one to step into his shoes for that period of time and much of his business would likely not survive..

                                                                                            At best he's betting that a run for president and the republican nomination will make him lots of money selling his brand rights.. His major income source is selling his brand rights, he's trying to expand that and on a massive ego trip. He isn't nor has he ever been a serious contender. The fact he's a front runner, shows how nieive the people whom support him are..
                                                                                            Ego trip or no ego trip, Trump has been scaring the shit out of the other contenders and loving every minute of it. That's why this Palin slip up is counterproductive from his perspective regardless of how serious he really is about running.



                                                                                            Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                            It will be Jeb Bush or maybe Walker as the Republican on the ticket come the 2016 elections and Trump will have long ago faded and ruined any chance they might of had.
                                                                                            God I hope not. Walker opposes education and Bush is Bush.

                                                                                            Kasich is probably the best of the bunch.

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                                                                                              • SuckOnThis
                                                                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                • Oct 2003
                                                                                                • 6844
                                                                                                #74

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                                                                                                  • crockett
                                                                                                    in a van by the river
                                                                                                    • May 2003
                                                                                                    • 76818
                                                                                                    #75
                                                                                                    Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                                                                    i would bet most bernie sanders supporters are white & uneducated.
                                                                                                    His largest support base is millennials which probably has the largest group of educated people of any generation being all companies these days think even a garbage man needs a degree.

                                                                                                    Don't worry even though I support him, I don't think he has much chance of beating Hillary for the Democrat nomination. This election will be about whom ever wins that nomination.. In fact the only way I think a Republicans will have a chance inn hell is if the nomination goes to Hillary.

                                                                                                    Most liberals don't like Hillary and the Democratic Party risks having people stay home and not vote if Hillary gets the nomination. This is the same reason Republicans did well in the mid terms, because Democrats stayed home and didn't vote..

                                                                                                    Hopefully they have learned from that, this go around and nominate a candidate worth voting for.. Honestly the only way I'd vote for Hillary is if it was going to be a close call between her or Bush.. Id rather have Hillary than Bush so my vote would only be used as a block vote and certainly not a vote in support of her..
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                                                                                                      • dyna mo
                                                                                                        just a fucking jerk
                                                                                                        • Dec 2008
                                                                                                        • 68184
                                                                                                        #76
                                                                                                        Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                        His largest support base is millennials which probably has the largest group of educated people of any generation being all companies these days think even a garbage man needs a degree.

                                                                                                        Don't worry even though I support him, I don't think he has much chance of beating Hillary for the Democrat nomination. This election will be about whom ever wins that nomination.. In fact the only way I think a Republicans will have a chance inn hell is if the nomination goes to Hillary.

                                                                                                        Most liberals don't like Hillary and the Democratic Party risks having people stay home and not vote if Hillary gets the nomination. This is the same reason Republicans did well in the mid terms, because Democrats stayed home and didn't vote..

                                                                                                        Hopefully they have learned from that, this go around and nominate a candidate worth voting for.. Honestly the only way I'd vote for Hillary is if it was going to be a close call between her or Bush.. I rather have Hillary than Bush so my vote would only be used as a block vote..
                                                                                                        eh? you know millenials are the gen ushering in minorities as the majority? minorities are far less likely to obtain a degree. and unemployed, on the dole millenials far outnumber their previous generation's numbers.

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                                                                                                          • GregE
                                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                                            • Jul 2004
                                                                                                            • 2704
                                                                                                            #77
                                                                                                            Originally posted by crockett

                                                                                                            Trump does not appeal to the masses, but rather the fringe base. In other words, yes there is a very BIG diffrence.
                                                                                                            Not all of the fringe base.

                                                                                                            To his credit, Trump isn't kissing up the the religious yahoos who will flock to Santorum or Huckabee instead.

                                                                                                            Lots of people who's jobs have been offshored aren't necessarily from the fringe base either but they nonetheless see Trump as the only contender who gives a rat's ass about their plight.

                                                                                                            Trump's more dangerous than you give him credit for.

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                                                                                                              • Robbie
                                                                                                                Leaner, Meaner, Faster
                                                                                                                • Aug 2002
                                                                                                                • 20960
                                                                                                                #78
                                                                                                                I need to wrap my head around this....crockett is endorsing Bush for Republican nominee? That's who he wants to win the Republican nomination?

                                                                                                                Okay...when a guy who hates Republicans hates ONE of them the most...that's probably THE Republican for that party to vote for. lol

                                                                                                                And if a guy who hates Republicans suddenly picks one or two of them as the best of the bunch? That's the one you DON'T want to vote for.
                                                                                                                -Robbie
                                                                                                                ClaudiaMarie.Com

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                                                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                                                    • 52942
                                                                                                                    #79
                                                                                                                    A lot of voters, vote to keep someone out. They may not like who they vote for, they just know they don't want the other guy.

                                                                                                                    Would Romney have faired better if he hadn't of been a Mormon, would Obama have faired better if he hadn't of been a Black, will Clinton fair better if she wasn't a woman, would Trump fair better if he didn't keep putting his foot in his mouth? Think of it in terms of rejecting the floating middle of the road voters. The ones who really matter.

                                                                                                                    Trump will attract a lot of voters, but not as many as he repels to the Democrats.

                                                                                                                    Bush has the Bush legacy to contend with.

                                                                                                                    Clinton has only her husband's sex scandal to weather.

                                                                                                                    Things like this have a huge effect on how some people vote.



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                                                                                                                      • _Richard_
                                                                                                                        Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                                        • Oct 2006
                                                                                                                        • 30991
                                                                                                                        #80
                                                                                                                        read an article today entitled 'Trump vs Koch'..

                                                                                                                        gave me an odd feeling

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                                                                                                                          • crockett
                                                                                                                            in a van by the river
                                                                                                                            • May 2003
                                                                                                                            • 76818
                                                                                                                            #81
                                                                                                                            Originally posted by GregE
                                                                                                                            Not all of the fringe base.

                                                                                                                            To his credit, Trump isn't kissing up the the religious yahoos who will flock to Santorum or Huckabee instead.

                                                                                                                            Lots of people who's jobs have been offshored aren't necessarily from the fringe base either but they nonetheless see Trump as the only contender who gives a rat's ass about their plight.

                                                                                                                            Trump's more dangerous than you give him credit for.
                                                                                                                            Then they are stupid if they think Trump will bring jobs here... Trump has his own shit product lines made in China and Mexico.. That doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in him bringing jobs when he sends his own jobs out of the country..

                                                                                                                            As far as him being dangerous, well I agree on that.. He'd be a disaster for this country if he managed to get elected..
                                                                                                                            In November, you can vote for America's next president or its first dictator.

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                                                                                                                              • crockett
                                                                                                                                in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                • May 2003
                                                                                                                                • 76818
                                                                                                                                #82
                                                                                                                                Originally posted by Robbie
                                                                                                                                I need to wrap my head around this....crockett is endorsing Bush for Republican nominee? That's who he wants to win the Republican nomination?

                                                                                                                                Okay...when a guy who hates Republicans hates ONE of them the most...that's probably THE Republican for that party to vote for. lol

                                                                                                                                And if a guy who hates Republicans suddenly picks one or two of them as the best of the bunch? That's the one you DON'T want to vote for.
                                                                                                                                I dunno how you can even come to that conclusion from what I said..
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                                                                                                                                  • Black All Through
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                                                                                                                                    • Oct 2010
                                                                                                                                    • 2078
                                                                                                                                    #83
                                                                                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                                                                    Hillary couldn't keep Bill happy, how the fuck is she going to satisfy half the country?
                                                                                                                                    Mr Pensioner, You couldn't satisfy her even if you took 10 boxes of Viagra!
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