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03-18-2003, 01:18 AM
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Too old to care
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Why niche content is hard to find.
We are always being asked for "NICHE" content.
My webmaster has built me a program to review sales in every catagory and niche. The results were interesting. I accept we will do better at niches we specialise in, but these niches we shoot for magazines. TEENS Solo Girl = Excellent  Girl/Girl = Fine Boy/Girl = Very Excellent TEEN SHAVERS Solo Girl = Suck Girl/Girl = Suck AMATEUR Solo Girl = Poor Girl/Girl = Fine Boy/Girl = Very Excellent INTER-RACIAL Boy/Girl = Fair BIG TITS Solo Girl = Fine Girl/Girl = Fine Boy/Girl = Very Excellent GLAMOUR Solo Girl = Fine MATURE Solo Girl = Suck ASIAN Solo Girl = Suck FETISH All sales = Suck GUYS Solo Boy = Suck EBONY Solo Girl = Suck Boy/Girl = Suck VIDEOS Only got 38 videos so not enough to tell, some do very well some do not. The problem is, I think, there is not a a lot of the "Fetish" and less popular niche catagory sites around. So the sets sell a lot less times. The popular catagories sell well because there are a lot of site out there for them. Just thought you might find this interesting before you run off and start up a Fetish site. |
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03-18-2003, 01:43 AM
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Do you have any stats on "Redheads"?
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03-18-2003, 01:52 AM
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So what you're saying is we should all just work in teen content?
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03-18-2003, 03:02 AM
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Fetish is mostly done by people who are into that fetish. Those people shoot their own content because they actually know exactly what is needed for that particular kink. So it's clear that mainstream goes best but I would say that you would be able to sell fetish content for as higher price.
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03-18-2003, 03:23 AM
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What I still don't understand is why "porn for women" seems to be a niche...
Works for me, I'm trying to fill that niche... do any of you target women visitors? If so, how? And, are you getting any results? ~ EG ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Sex appeal is 50% what you've got and 50% what people think you've got." -Sophia Loren
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03-18-2003, 03:26 AM
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If the girl will not sell in the mainstream, we should not shoot her just because she has red hair. She'll sell to 3-5 sites, but not enough to warrant shooting her. |
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03-18-2003, 03:41 AM
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But what about the shavings sets, we shot shaving sets for 10 years and we do them well. There are "Shaving" magazines that are 50% our content. Yet it does not sell on the net. Hairy does not sell on the net but flies out in mags. A lot of the fetish sites think they should pay the same for a fetish set as we charge for a teen set. Quote:
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Sex appeal is 50% what you've got and 50% what people think they can get. " -Sophia Loren Slight correction |
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03-18-2003, 03:45 AM
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we'll miss you our friend. RIP
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if someone requires it, it willl be produced.
my life revolves around exclusive video... |
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03-18-2003, 04:04 AM
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03-18-2003, 04:11 AM
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I guess no surprise for you Charly right?You shoot teens for ages so it would be strange if you are not good in this niche
btw I think there is nothing more exiting then young innocent chick - and I know you do pick up real sweet faces  also thanks for congrats - I had a wrong info in ICQdetails so it came 3 days before my bday sorry for that man , thanks again
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03-18-2003, 04:12 AM
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Obscure content won't sell as many sets, but it is worth more money.
I would pay more for mature sex videos than teen sex videos. I would pay more for Indian sex videos than teen sex videos.
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03-18-2003, 04:22 AM
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Hmm... Snuff and Necrophilia. You could shoot a set of each on the same day with the same model.
hint: you'll probably want to do the snuff first. |
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03-18-2003, 05:51 AM
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Charly, you know more about this stuff than I do by leaps and bounds, so in general I will defer to your age and wisdom. A thought, though... Could it not be that you sell more mainstream stuff, like teen, because you're known for it? People come to you looking for the stuff that sold well, so of course it sold better.
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03-18-2003, 06:41 AM
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03-18-2003, 06:47 AM
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When I'm looking for niche content, Paul Markham is probably the last name that comes to my mind.
In my mind "Paul Markham" is branded as selling amateur Czech girls posing naked. I didn't even know you had asians or mature.
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03-18-2003, 06:56 AM
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Ian's right I think. The people who are coming to you are probably 80% webmasters looking for teen content. That's how you market yourself. If you have gay sets you have to advertise to those webmasters and if you've only got a small selection of gay content they're not going to make your store on of their first stops. You can't be all things to all people, that's what brokers do. Better to be known for and good at a few related niches than trying to be a content supermarket. Unless you have a ton of content spread out among many niches.
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03-18-2003, 06:57 AM
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One of our fetish sites now has more than 10,000 members billing at $29.95 a month (no affiliates) and we produce all of our own content. Would we let other people shoot for this site? Not in a million years. Its horses for courses and unless you understand it you just cant shoot it.
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03-18-2003, 07:51 AM
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03-18-2003, 07:54 AM
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i love the ebony booty.. www.xenaproductions.com
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I've got 2 ebony domains that I'm planning on making into paysites, and I just bookmarked that site.
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03-18-2003, 08:09 AM
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Japanese & Korean girls.
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03-18-2003, 08:26 AM
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Yes it seems we have branded ourselves as teens and amateur "specialists" which is not so bad. we can live off those sales, just about
.But just thought it was interesting in the light of all the posts for niche and fetish material. But I think SGS came up with the best post. Any one with any knowledge and ability to shoot a specailist should be doing it for their own sites. |
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03-18-2003, 01:28 PM
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Our asian make up 100% of our sales... Go figure...
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I long searched for this statistics...
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03-18-2003, 05:44 PM
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i think it depends on your traffic and splash page a bit
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03-18-2003, 07:44 PM
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My personal pet peeve is photographers who refuse to do their research. They crank out half assed scenes and while they may be technically perfect from a photography point of view, they suck from a fetish perspective.
Despite the fact that I cant stand taking pictures, I have had to produce 90% of my content in house. This is because there is very little convincing fetish content out there available for sale. Spend a few hours (at least!) looking into what the end user wants to see, and you will notice a remarkable increase in your sales. |
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03-19-2003, 06:36 AM
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Young boys and older women is a good trend.
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03-19-2003, 07:02 AM
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how old are you talking about? 30-40? 40 plus?
damn the older ladies in porn make me queasy. I'll never understand that fetish. And i'm not being sexist cuz old men in porn isn't any better.
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