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  • DVTimes
    xxx
    • Jun 2003
    • 31658

    #51
    Originally posted by clickity click

    You may get more selling it in the UK than in Spain.
    XXX

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    • Barry-xlovecam
      It's 42
      • Jun 2010
      • 18083

      #52
      Many an invasion force commander burnt his ships when he landed and said "Men, there is no turning back! To victory!" Well, that is mostly fairy tale but it sounds good.

      I burnt through $42K in cash and credit when I got started in 2001 -- my ''education'' paid off many times over but it wasn't easy -- good luck -- you will need it. I think this business is a lot tougher today to succeed in than it was in 2001 ...

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      • RazorSharpe
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2001
        • 2238

        #53
        Originally posted by Roald
        Damn you! I got caught out reading it on mobile. Normally check all links prior to clicking!
        Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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        • 2MuchMark
          Mark of 2Much.net
          • Aug 2004
          • 50969

          #54
          I have an idea. Let's help NathalieK and Gspot get their business back on track.

          Nathalie, Can you post some more info about your business?

          - A few samples of the content
          - A screenshot of traffic stats for the past year
          - Sales for the past year? (Not dollar amounts if you don't want to, but maybe sales frequency?)
          - Affiliate sales stats too please
          - Maybe a short log of changes to your site in the past year too?
          - A screenshot of your website as it used to appear.
          - Also any ideas about what you think went wrong.

          The idea is to see what your sales used to be like, and to to try to figure out what has changed that caused your sales to drop off. And maybe there will be a few people here who can help you to identify some problems, suggest improvements, and help get you back on track. I for one would be happy to contribute some time to the cause.

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          • arock10
            Confirmed User
            • Jan 2006
            • 6217

            #55
            How are you going to get traffic? Domains, designs, etc can all be done for under $100 if you really want to cut corners
            Sup

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            • dyna mo
              just a fucking jerk
              • Dec 2008
              • 68184

              #56
              you should be able to get some good cash for that skyline, it's a legendary car, if it's in good shape. then use the proceeds to buy a more reasonable car and invest the balance into the site.

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              • 420
                cuck
                • Mar 2003
                • 11571

                #57
                Originally posted by MarkPrince
                I have an idea. Let's help NathalieK and Gspot get their business back on track.

                Nathalie, Can you post some more info about your business?
                Fuck you Mhark. Your lisp is too hoth to resisth.

                Maybe they should stop trying to sell paysite access.
                Give free "asswithclass" memberships to build traffic.
                Nat could do live shows. Gary too! I'd pay 99 cents a minute to watch him wank.
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                • Joshua G
                  dumb libs love censorship
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 8198

                  #58
                  Originally posted by dyna mo
                  it's a legendary car
                  yes i find it unbelievable to sell such a baller ride to double down on a business that the OP has not yet been able to monetize. i really hope for them they hit the home run cause anything less & they will be in the same spot, but without the car & a lot less hope.


                  i would agree with previous posters, keep the car.

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                  • NatalieK
                    Natalie K
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 20106

                    #59
                    Originally posted by DVTimes
                    Do you not understand that Nat does not look happy and the smile looks forced.

                    lol, I'm very happy here in Spain thanks. I liked this photo, Gary chooses others but I like me in this picture.

                    I can tell you, relaxing in the sun, live cam on & shooting once or twice a week, I love my life. It's been 30degrees for the past 4 months, I had christmas dinner on my balcony, I've enjoyed amazing food & can most definitely say, I would rather be here than in the UK any day!
                    My official site Custom vids Make money & get into the businessFirst time girls
                    Skype: GspotProductions - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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                    • NatalieK
                      Natalie K
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 20106

                      #60
                      Originally posted by Zuzana Designs
                      If your content is good and the surfers have an interest in what you have to offer, the design isn't the be-all and end-all aspect of your site.

                      While we would love to do an amazing site from the ground up for you, it's not something we advise selling your car to make happen. Our solid advice would be to scale down to one site as suggested, and consider using Elevated X with a hosting package. You could use their default templates and we could do a nice logo/header/background design to customize them a little. Then you could see how the site did and what adjustments you need to make ? or if the site will even work at all, since sadly not everyone who wants to make a great site is actually successful at it.

                      It?s great to try, but you don?t need to put so much risk into it. Start off small and build your design and additional sites if you like as you gain more revenue. That way if it doesn?t work out, you can walk away losing a small investment.

                      You seem determined to make money in this business and willing to put in the time. Cams are your friend and I see you working them. That's what it takes. Keep creating content and figure out the best way to utilize your traffic if this is your passion. Remember to keep it simple and content is king.

                      If you want to chat send me an email anytime to sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com. I will give you my honest advice to help you succeed.

                      Thank you for your info, we've connected with both you & Elevated on skype, now looking to purchase a new website name, reconnect our server & have our new website 4k, high quality.
                      We shall speak in due course. Thanks x
                      My official site Custom vids Make money & get into the businessFirst time girls
                      Skype: GspotProductions - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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                      • NatalieK
                        Natalie K
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 20106

                        #61
                        Originally posted by Joshua G
                        yes i find it unbelievable to sell such a baller ride to double down on a business that the OP has not yet been able to monetize. i really hope for them they hit the home run cause anything less & they will be in the same spot, but without the car & a lot less hope.


                        i would agree with previous posters, keep the car.
                        It was a lovely car, but here in Spain, we hardly drive a car now as we're always either walking or working. Now with all the money to play with. We can create a much better site with higher quality content our members shall appreciate. But thanks for the support & thanks for liking our car, it was great traveling here in, we've had her for almost 10 years. Many a memory & now, maybe aim for the new GTR
                        My official site Custom vids Make money & get into the businessFirst time girls
                        Skype: GspotProductions - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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                        • NatalieK
                          Natalie K
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 20106

                          #62
                          Originally posted by rogueteens
                          Natalie never looks likes she is enjoying herself - even if she is, she just doesn't LOOK like she is, that really does need to be fixed
                          oh my, I've always enjoyed myself, laughing & having fun on camera, I'll make sure that my new site doesn't show only the hardcore creampie gangbangs, maybe where I'd giggling at the beginning of the sessions or maybe the end, when I've laughing because I'm coated in cum
                          My official site Custom vids Make money & get into the businessFirst time girls
                          Skype: GspotProductions - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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                          • rogueteens
                            So fucking bland
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 8005

                            #63
                            Originally posted by GspotProductions
                            oh my, I've always enjoyed myself, laughing & having fun on camera, I'll make sure that my new site doesn't show only the hardcore creampie gangbangs, maybe where I'd giggling at the beginning of the sessions or maybe the end, when I've laughing because I'm coated in cum
                            Try to get Natalie to look like she is having fun in the photos too.
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                            • rogueteens
                              So fucking bland
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 8005

                              #64
                              Originally posted by GspotProductions
                              Thank you for your info, we've connected with both you & Elevated on skype, now looking to purchase a new website name, reconnect our server & have our new website 4k, high quality.
                              We shall speak in due course. Thanks x
                              just curious, what direction are you going with your new name? Something with Natalie in it or something more generic like the last one?
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                              • dyna mo
                                just a fucking jerk
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 68184

                                #65
                                Originally posted by Joshua G
                                yes i find it unbelievable to sell such a baller ride to double down on a business that the OP has not yet been able to monetize. i really hope for them they hit the home run cause anything less & they will be in the same spot, but without the car & a lot less hope.


                                i would agree with previous posters, keep the car.
                                cars are a dime a dozen. if you're at the stage where you're weighing selling a investment grade sports car v investing in your business, the answer is clear for me. folks struggling to launch their own gig don't need a skyline to get the groceries. and when that investment makes an ROI, there will be plenty of skylines in the classifieds.

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                                • SBJ
                                  So Fucking Fabulous
                                  • Apr 2003
                                  • 11387

                                  #66
                                  Instead of selling your car I think you should sell your camera, computer, and turn off your internet. Then go out and get a job where you and your gf can earn a living. Selling a nice car like that will not make your biz a success if you don't have the talent and ability to run one.

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                                  • The Porn Nerd
                                    Living The Dream
                                    • Jun 2009
                                    • 19784

                                    #67
                                    1. Get Epoch as secondary processer for the cascade IF you do more than $20,000 a year with CCBill. If not, wait til you do. Epoch costs $1000 yearly.
                                    2. Hire a designer to tweak your current design/re-design only the 'important parts' (main landing page, join page). I don't know your Members Area so we're probably just talking the Tour so only a couple pages are needed.

                                    Remember too that any major change could hurt bookmarkers. Depends on your traffic and promotions. Good luck with everything!!
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                                    • dyna mo
                                      just a fucking jerk
                                      • Dec 2008
                                      • 68184

                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by SBJ
                                      Instead of selling your car I think you should sell your camera, computer, and turn off your internet. Then go out and get a job where you and your gf can earn a living. Selling a nice car like that will not make your biz a success if you don't have the talent and ability to run one.
                                      well, there is that to consider eh. i certainly didn't do the accounting on that.

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                                      • NatalieK
                                        Natalie K
                                        • Apr 2010
                                        • 20106

                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by dyna mo
                                        well, there is that to consider eh. i certainly didn't do the accounting on that.
                                        Lucky, we love our business & love most, lol, most people in the business. We also love our income & especially love our life.

                                        We've done many jobs since leaving schools, owned a few successful businesses since leaving jobs, & now enjoying the sun, sea & most of all, sex, I think we'll definitely continue especially now purchasing the new domain
                                        My official site Custom vids Make money & get into the businessFirst time girls
                                        Skype: GspotProductions - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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                                        • NatalieK
                                          Natalie K
                                          • Apr 2010
                                          • 20106

                                          #70
                                          Originally posted by rogueteens
                                          just curious, what direction are you going with your new name? Something with Natalie in it or something more generic like the last one?
                                          We've chose a domain relevant to me personally, we're also going 4k
                                          My official site Custom vids Make money & get into the businessFirst time girls
                                          Skype: GspotProductions - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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                                          • dyna mo
                                            just a fucking jerk
                                            • Dec 2008
                                            • 68184

                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                            Lucky, we love our business & love most, lol, most people in the business. We also love our income & especially love our life.

                                            We've done many jobs since leaving schools, owned a few successful businesses since leaving jobs, & now enjoying the sun, sea & most of all, sex, I think we'll definitely continue especially now purchasing the new domain
                                            why you are directing this at me, i have no idea. alll i know is i suggested that a skyline pales in comparison to a successful business and i jokingly replied to another poster's comments. i also added there will be plenty of skylines for sale at any time after you get past whatever it is you're stuck on.

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                                            • Zuzana Designs
                                              All Your Design Needs
                                              • Feb 2005
                                              • 20896

                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                              Thank you for your info, we've connected with both you & Elevated on skype, now looking to purchase a new website name, reconnect our server & have our new website 4k, high quality.
                                              We shall speak in due course. Thanks x
                                              I look forward to hearing from you guys.

                                              Website Design - Consulting - Development
                                              sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com - See Our Work

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                                              • NatalieK
                                                Natalie K
                                                • Apr 2010
                                                • 20106

                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by dyna mo
                                                why you are directing this at me, i have no idea. alll i know is i suggested that a skyline pales in comparison to a successful business and i jokingly replied to another poster's comments. i also added there will be plenty of skylines for sale at any time after you get past whatever it is you're stuck on.
                                                I wasn't directing it at you

                                                I'd respected your post & merely spoke back to you with regards to someones comment that you'd laughed with

                                                It's all good

                                                & yes, we've exactly thought the same thing, maybe in a few years, purchase the new GTR

                                                dyna mo, you're a great guy & we both have no beef with you
                                                My official site Custom vids Make money & get into the businessFirst time girls
                                                Skype: GspotProductions - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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                                                • oppoten
                                                  NAME THE JEW
                                                  • Nov 2007
                                                  • 4793

                                                  #74
                                                  Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                  We've chose a domain relevant to me personally, we're also going 4k
                                                  natalie4k.com?

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                                                  • Bladewire
                                                    StraightBro
                                                    • Aug 2003
                                                    • 56228

                                                    #75
                                                    Originally posted by rogueteens
                                                    just curious, what direction are you going with your new name? Something with Natalie in it or something more generic like the last one?
                                                    MyWifeGary.com


                                                    Skype: CallTomNow

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                                                    • L-Pink
                                                      working on my tan
                                                      • Mar 2005
                                                      • 39151

                                                      #76
                                                      My recommendation ..... honestly?

                                                      Keep the car but .... fire whoever does your hair. Seriously I don't know if it's a local thing or what but it creeps me out. The whole Whitney Houston looking hairband thing needs to go too.

                                                      Who can fap to that?


                                                      .

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                                                      • NatalieK
                                                        Natalie K
                                                        • Apr 2010
                                                        • 20106

                                                        #77
                                                        Originally posted by oppoten
                                                        natalie4k.com?
                                                        no, we hadn't. We brought another, but in all honesty, you're a gem! If you wanna email or skype us, we'd love to give you something in return for a great domain name we've just bought & use, welcomed

                                                        Originally posted by Bladewire
                                                        MyWifeGary.com
                                                        erm, no??? Duh, it would mean my wife is my partner

                                                        Originally posted by L-Pink
                                                        My recommendation ..... honestly?

                                                        Keep the car but .... fire whoever does your hair. Seriously I don't know if it's a local thing or what but it creeps me out. The whole Whitney Houston looking hairband thing needs to go too.

                                                        Who can fap to that?.
                                                        well, i like my hair in my whitney hairband personally... but welcomed to look at my hair in many styles as you look down my website alive at the moment
                                                        My official site Custom vids Make money & get into the businessFirst time girls
                                                        Skype: GspotProductions - "Converting traffic into income since 2005"

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                                                        • DVTimes
                                                          xxx
                                                          • Jun 2003
                                                          • 31658

                                                          #78
                                                          Imakenosales.com
                                                          Isuckatporn.com
                                                          Italkcrap.com
                                                          Iamrealygary.com
                                                          sadporn.com
                                                          pornnoonewants.com
                                                          nosales.com
                                                          IfISellMyCarItsTheOnlyThingICanSell.com
                                                          grossporn.com
                                                          wehavenomoney.com
                                                          XXX

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                                                          • DVTimes
                                                            xxx
                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                            • 31658

                                                            #79
                                                            Originally posted by GspotProductions



                                                            well, i like my hair in my whitney hairband personally... but welcomed to look at my hair in many styles as you look down my website alive at the moment



                                                            XXX

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                                                            • DVTimes
                                                              xxx
                                                              • Jun 2003
                                                              • 31658

                                                              #80
                                                              Originally posted by GspotProductions


                                                              erm, no??? Duh, it would mean my wife is my partner
                                                              we all know its you Gary.

                                                              but keep treating people like morons and keep telling lies, then wonder why people never trust you to promote your sites.

                                                              if you start to be honest and admit your gary to avoid your ban, people will have respect for you.

                                                              but feel free to keep bullshitting.

                                                              we are not stupid.
                                                              XXX

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                                                              • theS2O
                                                                Adult Design Since 2003
                                                                • Sep 2003
                                                                • 4785

                                                                #81
                                                                If you plan on finding a new designer for the revamp of your sites. We might be able to help you with it. Please feel free to drop me a line on Skype or ICQ or just email me when you get a chance. Thanks a lot.
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                                                                • L-Pink
                                                                  working on my tan
                                                                  • Mar 2005
                                                                  • 39151

                                                                  #82
                                                                  Originally posted by DVTimes





                                                                  Thank you, I rest my case.


                                                                  .

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                                                                  • LouiseLloyd
                                                                    SO FUCKING SCAMMED
                                                                    • Mar 2010
                                                                    • 1429

                                                                    #83
                                                                    Originally posted by GspotProductions
                                                                    owned a few successful businesses
                                                                    Your current predicament would seem to suggest otherwise.

                                                                    For your best chance of succeeding you need to adopt a niche that Natalie actually suits, the glamour look is definitely not going to work, "Divvy" is correct, you need to brand around slaggy/cheap look that comes natural to the model, perhaps even offer members meets to bump up the subscription appeal, bareback gangbangs, gloryhole, dogging and anything else proper nasty that's where you want to be. Also you need to shoot your content in the UK, the Spanish holiday look just does nothing, perhaps move back, get on benefits, get a council flat and bingo, you'll be quids in Kerching

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                                                                    • DVTimes
                                                                      xxx
                                                                      • Jun 2003
                                                                      • 31658

                                                                      #84
                                                                      Originally posted by LouiseLloyd
                                                                      Your current predicament would seem to suggest otherwise.

                                                                      For your best chance of succeeding you need to adopt a niche that Natalie actually suits, the glamour look is definitely not going to work, "Divvy" is correct, you need to brand around slaggy/cheap look that comes natural to the model, perhaps even offer members meets to bump up the subscription appeal, bareback gangbangs, gloryhole, dogging and anything else proper nasty that's where you want to be. Also you need to shoot your content in the UK, the Spanish holiday look just does nothing, perhaps move back, get on benefits, get a council flat and bingo, you'll be quids in Kerching
                                                                      yes

                                                                      the chav area would be big bucks

                                                                      it makes no sense to shoot the content in spain for you
                                                                      XXX

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                                                                      • RazorSharpe
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Aug 2001
                                                                        • 2238

                                                                        #85
                                                                        Originally posted by DVTimes
                                                                        Imakenosales.com
                                                                        Isuckatporn.com
                                                                        Italkcrap.com
                                                                        Iamrealygary.com
                                                                        sadporn.com
                                                                        pornnoonewants.com
                                                                        nosales.com
                                                                        IfISellMyCarItsTheOnlyThingICanSell.com
                                                                        grossporn.com
                                                                        wehavenomoney.com
                                                                        You're a fucking sad man Divvy. Your life revolves around finding people weaker than you that you can belittle and demoralize. You're a fucking bottom feeder.

                                                                        What's even funnier is you slagging off their content and their sales when you're in exactly the same boat.

                                                                        Don't you have makeup and a wedding dress to jump into?
                                                                        Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                                                        • clickity click
                                                                          So Fecking Bummed
                                                                          • Aug 2014
                                                                          • 3682

                                                                          #86
                                                                          Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                                          You're a fucking sad man Divvy. Your life revolves around finding people weaker than you that you can belittle and demoralize. You're a fucking bottom feeder.

                                                                          What's even funnier is you slagging off their content and their sales when you're in exactly the same boat.

                                                                          Don't you have makeup and a wedding dress to jump into?
                                                                          Exactly. This fool uses this picture (actually only from the waist up for the main pic on his main site)

                                                                          He also has a site called bhalasada and wouj which have to be as bad as arsewithclass
                                                                          His SEO on the bhalasadsa page is <title>splash bhala sada</title>

                                                                          This is the next image you see after clicking the enter link

                                                                          Doesn't exactly scream success does it? Perhaps they should both pair up.

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                                                                          • DVTimes
                                                                            xxx
                                                                            • Jun 2003
                                                                            • 31658

                                                                            #87
                                                                            Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                                            You're a fucking sad man Divvy. Your life revolves around finding people weaker than you that you can belittle and demoralize. You're a fucking bottom feeder.

                                                                            What's even funnier is you slagging off their content and their sales when you're in exactly the same boat.

                                                                            Don't you have makeup and a wedding dress to jump into?

                                                                            Not realy

                                                                            I am making sales

                                                                            plus this is now just a hobby

                                                                            i run a few businesses

                                                                            sorry
                                                                            XXX

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                                                                            • clickity click
                                                                              So Fecking Bummed
                                                                              • Aug 2014
                                                                              • 3682

                                                                              #88
                                                                              Originally posted by DVTimes
                                                                              Not realy

                                                                              I am making sales

                                                                              plus this is now just a hobby

                                                                              i run a few businesses

                                                                              sorry
                                                                              You sound like Natalie

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                                                                              • RazorSharpe
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                                • 2238

                                                                                #89
                                                                                Originally posted by DVTimes
                                                                                Not realy

                                                                                I am making sales

                                                                                plus this is now just a hobby

                                                                                i run a few businesses

                                                                                sorry
                                                                                Hey dickhead, being on the dole isn't a business!
                                                                                Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                                                                • RazorSharpe
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                  • 2238

                                                                                  #90
                                                                                  Divvy talking about chavs and slagging them off is priceless. When I saw him for the first time at a webmaster meet in London I thought this prick was homeless. As the night progressed, I changed my mind and came to the conclusion that he was a serial killer in the making. That wedding dress video wasn't all that surprising when I saw it.

                                                                                  Here's some of what Divvy's 1000's of members get treated to:




                                                                                  Divvy, you slagging someone who is making an effort is ridiculous.
                                                                                  Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                                                                  • RazorSharpe
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Aug 2001
                                                                                    • 2238

                                                                                    #91
                                                                                    Did this lass have her hair extensions done by a one-eyed badger?



                                                                                    People in glass houses Divvy ....
                                                                                    Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                                                                    • Jel
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2007
                                                                                      • 6904

                                                                                      #92
                                                                                      Originally posted by RazorSharpe
                                                                                      You're a fucking sad man Divvy. Your life revolves around finding people weaker than you that you can belittle and demoralize. You're a fucking bottom feeder.

                                                                                      What's even funnier is you slagging off their content and their sales when you're in exactly the same boat.

                                                                                      Don't you have makeup and a wedding dress to jump into?


                                                                                      moaned when followed & bullied on here by another (rightly so) but can't see he does exactly the same, to a couple trying to make a go of their business. What a sad lowlife cunt. I know Gary & Natalie aren't everyone's cup of tea, but I don't believe they have a nasty bone between them (excuse the pun). Genuine people giving it a go. They could do with listening more, and being truly teachable (PLEASE hit up zuzanna if you haven't already guys, and get some focussed advice to concentrate on) but fuck, the treatment of them by some here is nothing short of disgusting.

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                                                                                      • EddyTheDog
                                                                                        Just Doing My Own Thing
                                                                                        • Jan 2011
                                                                                        • 25433

                                                                                        #93
                                                                                        Originally posted by Jel


                                                                                        moaned when followed & bullied on here by another (rightly so) but can't see he does exactly the same, to a couple trying to make a go of their business. What a sad lowlife cunt. I know Gary & Natalie aren't everyone's cup of tea, but I don't believe they have a nasty bone between them (excuse the pun). Genuine people giving it a go. They could do with listening more, and being truly teachable (PLEASE hit up zuzanna if you haven't already guys, and get some focussed advice to concentrate on) but fuck, the treatment of them by some here is nothing short of disgusting.
                                                                                        ...

                                                                                        Well said.....

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                                                                                        • Jel
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2007
                                                                                          • 6904

                                                                                          #94
                                                                                          Originally posted by DVTimes
                                                                                          Not realy

                                                                                          I am making sales

                                                                                          plus this is now just a hobby

                                                                                          i run a few businesses

                                                                                          sorry
                                                                                          Ahhh, a hobbyist doling out advice. I forgot that's what this place mostly is now, my bad.

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                                                                                          • RazorSharpe
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Aug 2001
                                                                                            • 2238

                                                                                            #95
                                                                                            Originally posted by Jel


                                                                                            moaned when followed & bullied on here by another (rightly so) but can't see he does exactly the same, to a couple trying to make a go of their business. What a sad lowlife cunt. I know Gary & Natalie aren't everyone's cup of tea, but I don't believe they have a nasty bone between them (excuse the pun). Genuine people giving it a go. They could do with listening more, and being truly teachable (PLEASE hit up zuzanna if you haven't already guys, and get some focussed advice to concentrate on) but fuck, the treatment of them by some here is nothing short of disgusting.
                                                                                            I don't think Gary's a bad bloke either. He seems genuine enough and all he gets on here is constant abuse. And by virtue of association so does his wife which is a crying shame.

                                                                                            Gary shouldn't even be banned here but things are what they are.

                                                                                            Someone needs to shake some sense into Gary. He's industrious enough it would appear but he needs to ground himself with an idea and run with it. Not flip flop all over the place. This new 4K idea isn't jiving for me. Nat is an amateur - no need for the 4K experience in my opinion.

                                                                                            Hope they do well, I really do.
                                                                                            Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                                                                                            • $tandaman
                                                                                              Pimping 8EZ
                                                                                              • Jun 2001
                                                                                              • 3530

                                                                                              #96
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                                                                                              • Mediamix
                                                                                                Dutch Webmaster!
                                                                                                • Sep 2013
                                                                                                • 3228

                                                                                                #97
                                                                                                Originally posted by DVTimes
                                                                                                This is a pic you posted Gary on your twitter site.

                                                                                                This is your content after all these years?

                                                                                                And you wonder why you make no sales.

                                                                                                Do you not understand that Nat does not look happy and the smile looks forced.

                                                                                                Thats before I start on how bad the pic itself is.

                                                                                                Yet you post this as your latest promotion.

                                                                                                You need to shut the fuck up. Your website Bhala Sada, or whatever that ugly thing is called, is an insult to all serious webmasters.
                                                                                                Your "models" are so fucking ugly that they need to be euthanised. You low life miserable dogshit eating cunt...

                                                                                                FUCK YOU AND FUCK YOUR UGLY ASS WEBSITE!
                                                                                                Sig too big

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                                                                                                • Shap
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                  • 8313

                                                                                                  #98
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Rochard
                                                                                                  Sounds to me like you are all over the place. You have a site and a company, and have shot what you consider great content, but.... why start from scratch? If your car is running rough, you don't tear it down and rebuild it from scratch?

                                                                                                  Why not have a long talk with someone in the industry who knows a little bit about what they are doing and who might be wiling to give some advice.

                                                                                                  Either way... Best of luck you guys.
                                                                                                  Agreed with you and Mark. Great advice from both.

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                                                                                                  • Shap
                                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                                    • May 2001
                                                                                                    • 8313

                                                                                                    #99
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Jel


                                                                                                    moaned when followed & bullied on here by another (rightly so) but can't see he does exactly the same, to a couple trying to make a go of their business. What a sad lowlife cunt. I know Gary & Natalie aren't everyone's cup of tea, but I don't believe they have a nasty bone between them (excuse the pun). Genuine people giving it a go. They could do with listening more, and being truly teachable (PLEASE hit up zuzanna if you haven't already guys, and get some focussed advice to concentrate on) but fuck, the treatment of them by some here is nothing short of disgusting.
                                                                                                    Well said!

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                                                                                                    • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                      Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                      • Aug 2004
                                                                                                      • 50969

                                                                                                      #100
                                                                                                      Originally posted by 420
                                                                                                      Fuck you Mhark. Your lisp is too hoth to resisth.

                                                                                                      Maybe they should stop trying to sell paysite access.
                                                                                                      Give free "asswithclass" memberships to build traffic.
                                                                                                      Nat could do live shows. Gary too! I'd pay 99 cents a minute to watch him wank.
                                                                                                      Fuck-you right back. Here's an adult website business that has fallen on hard times who would probably like a little help and advice, and all you can do is toss insults around.

                                                                                                      I'm pretty sure that when you started your business in adult, whatever it is that you do, you had some help and advice. Maybe its your turn now?

                                                                                                      Natalie: We have worked with Zuzana in the past and LOVE their work. You can't go wrong in their hands. Good luck to you!!

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