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TisMe 07-23-2015 04:20 PM

Keep the car, sell the camera.

OneHungLo 07-23-2015 05:01 PM

Why is arsewithclass.com down?

NatalieK 07-23-2015 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20531409)
Your second-tier biller will pick up around 10-15% of lost sales. Until that lost 10-15% can pay for the second-tier biller, it's not something you should be spending your money on. Do that later when you are making sales.

Remember 10-15% of nothing is still nothing, focus on changing that nothing.

Thank you Sly, so to begin, we'll buy a new domain, have it designed by zuzana, if she is mostly recommended, unless anyone else wants to quote or is recommended.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20531563)
you missed my point about getting Natalie to talk and be transcribed. what i meant was when you post an update on the tour, get her to talk about the experience and use that as the sales text - it makes it more personal.

I'm pretty sure that most designers will do a design based on what you want rather than what they think you want and at the moment, you don't really seem to have a clear idea of what direction you want your site to be. After all, if you want Natalie to be portrayed as a pornstar then you'll want a flashy tour but if you go down the amateur route then you'll need a grittier-looking tour. I still think that at the moment you are trying to have your site covering too many bases and needs to be more focused. After all, whats the point of spending cash only to be back where you started, not making money.

I'm considering a go pro for selfie vids before a movie, where I can speak about the set I'm about to be filmed in. I think surfers would like this & if I keep my clothes on while filming the intro, I can always post to youtube, as well as the porn tubes. Thanks for the idea of intros & being more personal :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by SekobA (Post 20531761)
Good luck with your future plans

thankyou :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20531891)
Things do not seem to be going too well for you

Life is going extremely well here in Spain tbh! Since here, we relax while working much more. Get out & enjoy the places, the outdoors, the pool & appreciate great food & plenty of drink. Lifes good :thumbsup

pornmasta 07-23-2015 05:27 PM

lol at:

http://i.imgur.com/CU5HCG0.gif

Zuzana Designs 07-23-2015 06:49 PM

If your content is good and the surfers have an interest in what you have to offer, the design isn't the be-all and end-all aspect of your site.

While we would love to do an amazing site from the ground up for you, it's not something we advise selling your car to make happen. Our solid advice would be to scale down to one site as suggested, and consider using Elevated X with a hosting package. You could use their default templates and we could do a nice logo/header/background design to customize them a little. Then you could see how the site did and what adjustments you need to make ? or if the site will even work at all, since sadly not everyone who wants to make a great site is actually successful at it.

It?s great to try, but you don?t need to put so much risk into it. Start off small and build your design and additional sites if you like as you gain more revenue. That way if it doesn?t work out, you can walk away losing a small investment.

You seem determined to make money in this business and willing to put in the time. Cams are your friend and I see you working them. That's what it takes. Keep creating content and figure out the best way to utilize your traffic if this is your passion. Remember to keep it simple and content is king.

If you want to chat send me an email anytime to sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com. I will give you my honest advice to help you succeed.

DVTimes 07-24-2015 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 20531954)
Why is arsewithclass.com down?

A few weeks ago he said he could not cover the cost of hosting his sites.

One presumes that he has no cash to pay the server bill.

Otherwise why pull the sites (all of them) and loose all the traffick.

When he first started we all told him (1) the name sucked, and (2) not to have 6 sites but keep with the one. If he had taken the advise, things would have been so much better. In truth now seems to be in a real mess.

Oh well. He never listens to advice. Never has and probably never will.

He could have made a lot of money if he had taken advice many years ago.

If I was him, I would go do something else before he ends up bankrupt. The danger he has is he will end up selling his car just to cover the cost of his server host. Then when he still makes not much from sales he will end up having no cash.

Gary your in Spain. There are many opportunities to make money in Spain.

Also webcam should make you good money. My mate sucks at webcam (I mean she is really bad) but even she makes £400 or more each night.

If your honest Gary, and sat and did a profit and loss. I suspect you would find that your making an overall loss from your sites each month. Its probably in your interest to stop as clearly your struggling.

But because you are Gary and think you know it all, you will carry on and keep telling people sign up and promote your site(s) and blag it that they sell. And in time you will end up broke.

As I say, I hope it goes well. But sadly I suspect your just throwing money away.

The truth is the content you shoot is not sexy. Until you start to shoot nice content, your never going to make much in sales. Your main problem is in most of your content Nat simply does not look like she wants to be in the pics. She looks unhappy.

As a webmaster you also come across as desperate. You beg people to promote your sites. On forums you offer free access. From the start it was clear you had no idea (even the basics) on what you were doing. You took no advice from anyone, convinced that your way would prove correct, yet it never has.

The truth is, the good times have gone. Do you really think a new look or new domain name is going to suddenly make you lots of cash?

If you want to make money Gary, get the content sorted first. What you have posted on this site, twitter and so on, has in most cases been ugly. And one presumes thats your best, so heck knows how bad everything else is. Before you waste money on a new design, shoot content that people will want to see.

And if you cannot shoot good content, then look for something else to do.

An old saying is a bad workman blames his tools. And that's what you do. You never accept that the problem you have is that your content is junk. You can have the best looking site in the world, but if the product is horrid, it simply will not sell.

And just because you get some sales, do not presume that means what your selling lots of people want. The C5 sold. But in the end it was a flop (mainly because the electronics sucked).

The problem you have Gary is because you get a few sales, you presume that means you have a product that could sell and as such you carry on regardless producing more of your rubbish content.

You may have a lot of content, but its a lot of junk.

STOP

Go look at content from other sites.

Then go shoot nice content.

Do you not understand Gary how important it is that your model (in this case Nat) needs to look happy on the pics. Personally I do not find (and many do not) find Nat attractive. But that does not matter, some people will like the Chav look hot. If it had been me I would have stayed in the UK and just shot Chav content, instead you made the mistake of shooting content that was not right for you. Anyway you have gone to Spain so not much you can do about that now.

But Nat needs to look happy in the pics. She needs to look like she wants to be in the pics. But to be honest she just looks like someone who is just doing it to keep you happy. You have been told this from the start.

Anyway, I know you will ignore my advice and you will just carry on regardless.

In six months you will be back begging for webmasters to promote your new site and in a year be asking why your not making many sales.

DVTimes 07-24-2015 02:12 AM

This is a pic you posted Gary on your twitter site.

This is your content after all these years?

And you wonder why you make no sales.

Do you not understand that Nat does not look happy and the smile looks forced.

Thats before I start on how bad the pic itself is.

Yet you post this as your latest promotion.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ4jpTEWEAAN23n.jpg

brassmonkey 07-24-2015 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20531235)
http://www.arsewithclass.com/ works for me :warning

http://fat.gfycat.com/BlushingCourag...kcoonhound.gif

rogueteens 07-24-2015 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20532211)
This is a pic you posted Gary on your twitter site.

This is your content after all these years?

And you wonder why you make no sales.

Do you not understand that Nat does not look happy and the smile looks forced.

Thats before I start on how bad the pic itself is.

Yet you post this as your latest promotion.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ4jpTEWEAAN23n.jpg

i don't think it matters how bad the photo is, it just depends on how its marketed, it would never work on a glamour site but is perfect for a "reader's wives" type site BUT i do agree with Divvy, Natalie never looks likes she is enjoying herself - even if she is, she just doesn't LOOK like she is, that really does need to be fixed urgently Gary.
If Natalie doesn't enjoy herself then stop and do something else, if Natalie is truly into doing what you do then she needs to learn to show that on camera.

I honestly think that your site can turn a profit but you are at a very important junction and you really need to think hard about making some huge changes especially in the direction you market your site(s).

DVTimes 07-24-2015 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20532314)
i don't think it matters how bad the photo is, it just depends on how its marketed, it would never work on a glamour site but is perfect for a "reader's wives" type site BUT i do agree with Divvy, Natalie never looks likes she is enjoying herself - even if she is, she just doesn't LOOK like she is, that really does need to be fixed urgently Gary.
If Natalie doesn't enjoy herself then stop and do something else, if Natalie is truly into doing what you do then she needs to learn to show that on camera.

I honestly think that your site can turn a profit but you are at a very important junction and you really need to think hard about making some huge changes especially in the direction you market your site(s).

Thats right.

The net is full of girl next doors doing content (often free). But they look happy.

Example: Watchersweb Amateur Milf hotwife, midwife, delicious, wife, usa, kansas, penny, meet,, Hot Penny
Watchersweb Amateur Milf wife, sexy, cheeky, playful, scotland,, Cheeky Wife
Watchersweb Amateur Milf football, summer. teenage, boys, notice, me, cigarette, usa, shoot, pictures, new, york,, Jessi's Summer Shoot
Watchersweb Amateur Milf hot, 19, year, old, usa, bath, time,, Lauren's Bath Time

When you look at pics of Nat she looks fedup.

But yes, the cam site may be the best thing. Just keep to that.

But until Nat looks like she is really into it, just forget it.

DVTimes 07-24-2015 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clickity click (Post 20531893)


You may get more selling it in the UK than in Spain.

Barry-xlovecam 07-24-2015 06:56 AM

Many an invasion force commander burnt his ships when he landed and said "Men, there is no turning back! To victory!" Well, that is mostly fairy tale but it sounds good.

I burnt through $42K in cash and credit when I got started in 2001 -- my ''education'' paid off many times over but it wasn't easy -- good luck -- you will need it. I think this business is a lot tougher today to succeed in than it was in 2001 ...

RazorSharpe 07-24-2015 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Roald (Post 20531235)
http://www.arsewithclass.com/ works for me :warning

Damn you! I got caught out reading it on mobile. Normally check all links prior to clicking!

2MuchMark 07-24-2015 08:11 AM

I have an idea. Let's help NathalieK and Gspot get their business back on track.

Nathalie, Can you post some more info about your business?

- A few samples of the content
- A screenshot of traffic stats for the past year
- Sales for the past year? (Not dollar amounts if you don't want to, but maybe sales frequency?)
- Affiliate sales stats too please
- Maybe a short log of changes to your site in the past year too?
- A screenshot of your website as it used to appear.
- Also any ideas about what you think went wrong.

The idea is to see what your sales used to be like, and to to try to figure out what has changed that caused your sales to drop off. And maybe there will be a few people here who can help you to identify some problems, suggest improvements, and help get you back on track. I for one would be happy to contribute some time to the cause.

arock10 07-24-2015 08:17 AM

How are you going to get traffic? Domains, designs, etc can all be done for under $100 if you really want to cut corners

dyna mo 07-24-2015 08:26 AM

you should be able to get some good cash for that skyline, it's a legendary car, if it's in good shape. then use the proceeds to buy a more reasonable car and invest the balance into the site.

420 07-24-2015 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20532440)
I have an idea. Let's help NathalieK and Gspot get their business back on track.

Nathalie, Can you post some more info about your business?

Fuck you Mhark. Your lisp is too hoth to resisth.

Maybe they should stop trying to sell paysite access.
Give free "asswithclass" memberships to build traffic.
Nat could do live shows. Gary too! I'd pay 99 cents a minute to watch him wank.

Joshua G 07-24-2015 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20532470)
it's a legendary car

yes i find it unbelievable to sell such a baller ride to double down on a business that the OP has not yet been able to monetize. i really hope for them they hit the home run cause anything less & they will be in the same spot, but without the car & a lot less hope.


i would agree with previous posters, keep the car.

NatalieK 07-24-2015 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DVTimes (Post 20532211)
Do you not understand that Nat does not look happy and the smile looks forced.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJ4jpTEWEAAN23n.jpg

lol, I'm very happy here in Spain thanks. I liked this photo, Gary chooses others but I like me in this picture.

I can tell you, relaxing in the sun, live cam on & shooting once or twice a week, I love my life. It's been 30degrees for the past 4 months, I had christmas dinner on my balcony, I've enjoyed amazing food & can most definitely say, I would rather be here than in the UK any day!

NatalieK 07-24-2015 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zuzana Designs (Post 20532034)
If your content is good and the surfers have an interest in what you have to offer, the design isn't the be-all and end-all aspect of your site.

While we would love to do an amazing site from the ground up for you, it's not something we advise selling your car to make happen. Our solid advice would be to scale down to one site as suggested, and consider using Elevated X with a hosting package. You could use their default templates and we could do a nice logo/header/background design to customize them a little. Then you could see how the site did and what adjustments you need to make ? or if the site will even work at all, since sadly not everyone who wants to make a great site is actually successful at it.

It?s great to try, but you don?t need to put so much risk into it. Start off small and build your design and additional sites if you like as you gain more revenue. That way if it doesn?t work out, you can walk away losing a small investment.

You seem determined to make money in this business and willing to put in the time. Cams are your friend and I see you working them. That's what it takes. Keep creating content and figure out the best way to utilize your traffic if this is your passion. Remember to keep it simple and content is king.

If you want to chat send me an email anytime to sarah [at] zuzanadesigns.com. I will give you my honest advice to help you succeed.


Thank you for your info, we've connected with both you & Elevated on skype, now looking to purchase a new website name, reconnect our server & have our new website 4k, high quality.
We shall speak in due course. Thanks x

NatalieK 07-24-2015 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20532704)
yes i find it unbelievable to sell such a baller ride to double down on a business that the OP has not yet been able to monetize. i really hope for them they hit the home run cause anything less & they will be in the same spot, but without the car & a lot less hope.


i would agree with previous posters, keep the car.

It was a lovely car, but here in Spain, we hardly drive a car now as we're always either walking or working. Now with all the money to play with. We can create a much better site with higher quality content our members shall appreciate. But thanks for the support & thanks for liking our car, it was great traveling here in, we've had her for almost 10 years. Many a memory & now, maybe aim for the new GTR :thumbsup

NatalieK 07-24-2015 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20532314)
Natalie never looks likes she is enjoying herself - even if she is, she just doesn't LOOK like she is, that really does need to be fixed

oh my, I've always enjoyed myself, laughing & having fun on camera, I'll make sure that my new site doesn't show only the hardcore creampie gangbangs, maybe where I'd giggling at the beginning of the sessions or maybe the end, when I've laughing because I'm coated in cum :winkwink:

rogueteens 07-24-2015 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20532862)
oh my, I've always enjoyed myself, laughing & having fun on camera, I'll make sure that my new site doesn't show only the hardcore creampie gangbangs, maybe where I'd giggling at the beginning of the sessions or maybe the end, when I've laughing because I'm coated in cum :winkwink:

Try to get Natalie to look like she is having fun in the photos too.

rogueteens 07-24-2015 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20532859)
Thank you for your info, we've connected with both you & Elevated on skype, now looking to purchase a new website name, reconnect our server & have our new website 4k, high quality.
We shall speak in due course. Thanks x

just curious, what direction are you going with your new name? Something with Natalie in it or something more generic like the last one?

dyna mo 07-24-2015 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshua G (Post 20532704)
yes i find it unbelievable to sell such a baller ride to double down on a business that the OP has not yet been able to monetize. i really hope for them they hit the home run cause anything less & they will be in the same spot, but without the car & a lot less hope.


i would agree with previous posters, keep the car.

cars are a dime a dozen. if you're at the stage where you're weighing selling a investment grade sports car v investing in your business, the answer is clear for me. folks struggling to launch their own gig don't need a skyline to get the groceries. and when that investment makes an ROI, there will be plenty of skylines in the classifieds.

SBJ 07-24-2015 03:36 PM

Instead of selling your car I think you should sell your camera, computer, and turn off your internet. Then go out and get a job where you and your gf can earn a living. Selling a nice car like that will not make your biz a success if you don't have the talent and ability to run one.

The Porn Nerd 07-24-2015 03:45 PM

1. Get Epoch as secondary processer for the cascade IF you do more than $20,000 a year with CCBill. If not, wait til you do. Epoch costs $1000 yearly.
2. Hire a designer to tweak your current design/re-design only the 'important parts' (main landing page, join page). I don't know your Members Area so we're probably just talking the Tour so only a couple pages are needed.

Remember too that any major change could hurt bookmarkers. Depends on your traffic and promotions. Good luck with everything!! :)

dyna mo 07-24-2015 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBJ (Post 20532875)
Instead of selling your car I think you should sell your camera, computer, and turn off your internet. Then go out and get a job where you and your gf can earn a living. Selling a nice car like that will not make your biz a success if you don't have the talent and ability to run one.

well, there is that to consider eh. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh i certainly didn't do the accounting on that.

NatalieK 07-24-2015 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20532885)
well, there is that to consider eh. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh i certainly didn't do the accounting on that.

Lucky, we love our business & love most, lol, most people in the business. We also love our income & especially love our life.

We've done many jobs since leaving schools, owned a few successful businesses since leaving jobs, & now enjoying the sun, sea & most of all, sex, I think we'll definitely continue especially now purchasing the new domain :thumbsup

NatalieK 07-24-2015 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20532871)
just curious, what direction are you going with your new name? Something with Natalie in it or something more generic like the last one?

We've chose a domain relevant to me personally, we're also going 4k :thumbsup

dyna mo 07-24-2015 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20532935)
Lucky, we love our business & love most, lol, most people in the business. We also love our income & especially love our life.

We've done many jobs since leaving schools, owned a few successful businesses since leaving jobs, & now enjoying the sun, sea & most of all, sex, I think we'll definitely continue especially now purchasing the new domain :thumbsup

why you are directing this at me, i have no idea. alll i know is i suggested that a skyline pales in comparison to a successful business and i jokingly replied to another poster's comments. i also added there will be plenty of skylines for sale at any time after you get past whatever it is you're stuck on.

Zuzana Designs 07-24-2015 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20532859)
Thank you for your info, we've connected with both you & Elevated on skype, now looking to purchase a new website name, reconnect our server & have our new website 4k, high quality.
We shall speak in due course. Thanks x

I look forward to hearing from you guys.

NatalieK 07-24-2015 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20532945)
why you are directing this at me, i have no idea. alll i know is i suggested that a skyline pales in comparison to a successful business and i jokingly replied to another poster's comments. i also added there will be plenty of skylines for sale at any time after you get past whatever it is you're stuck on.

I wasn't directing it at you :(

I'd respected your post & merely spoke back to you with regards to someones comment that you'd laughed with :thumbsup

It's all good :thumbsup

& yes, we've exactly thought the same thing, maybe in a few years, purchase the new GTR :2 cents:

dyna mo, you're a great guy & we both have no beef with you :thumbsup

oppoten 07-24-2015 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20532938)
We've chose a domain relevant to me personally, we're also going 4k :thumbsup

natalie4k.com?

Bladewire 07-24-2015 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20532871)
just curious, what direction are you going with your new name? Something with Natalie in it or something more generic like the last one?

MyWifeGary.com :thumbsup

L-Pink 07-24-2015 08:00 PM

My recommendation ..... honestly?

Keep the car but .... fire whoever does your hair. Seriously I don't know if it's a local thing or what but it creeps me out. The whole Whitney Houston looking hairband thing needs to go too.

Who can fap to that?


.

NatalieK 07-24-2015 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20532996)
natalie4k.com?

no, we hadn't. We brought another, but in all honesty, you're a gem! If you wanna email or skype us, we'd love to give you something in return for a great domain name we've just bought & use, welcomed :thumbsup

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bladewire (Post 20533008)
MyWifeGary.com :thumbsup

erm, no??? Duh, it would mean my wife is my partner :1orglaugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20533016)
My recommendation ..... honestly?

Keep the car but .... fire whoever does your hair. Seriously I don't know if it's a local thing or what but it creeps me out. The whole Whitney Houston looking hairband thing needs to go too.

Who can fap to that?.

well, i like my hair in my whitney hairband personally... but welcomed to look at my hair in many styles as you look down my website alive at the moment :2 cents:

DVTimes 07-25-2015 12:18 AM

Imakenosales.com
Isuckatporn.com
Italkcrap.com
Iamrealygary.com
sadporn.com
pornnoonewants.com
nosales.com
IfISellMyCarItsTheOnlyThingICanSell.com
grossporn.com
wehavenomoney.com

DVTimes 07-25-2015 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20533027)



well, i like my hair in my whitney hairband personally... but welcomed to look at my hair in many styles as you look down my website alive at the moment :2 cents:

http://img.thesun.co.uk/aidemitlum/a...0_1324578a.jpg


http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/files/2012/07/18442.jpg

DVTimes 07-25-2015 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GspotProductions (Post 20533027)


erm, no??? Duh, it would mean my wife is my partner :1orglaugh

we all know its you Gary.

but keep treating people like morons and keep telling lies, then wonder why people never trust you to promote your sites.

if you start to be honest and admit your gary to avoid your ban, people will have respect for you.

but feel free to keep bullshitting.

we are not stupid.


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