Numerous times; broke bread with him. Trusted him; big mistake.
So how the fuck do we avoid this?
I'm one of those Irish, dedicated until the end type people, and as you see in all my time on GFY never complained about being ripped off on here, ever.
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Big thank you for Harmon for doing a lot of work digging up the info and pics of these ass clowns
$8000 WTF? Did you pay them by PayPal? If not, were you able to recoup any of that money? What was the end result?
I'm in a tight spot and had total trust. I might have been completely scammed and this might have to be my first time sucking up my pride and admitting I was totally wrong.
Oddly nobody from the Shap thread answered my question a couple days ago asking if Freelancers.com might be a good alternative source for programmers. Fucking sucks right now
I'm one of those Irish, dedicated until the end type people, and as you see in all my time on GFY never complained about being ripped off on here, ever.
But this one is deeply personal.
What did you do?
My problem was that I trusted him and paid up front; never do that. Ever.
Originally posted by Phoenix
Tell us more about this please
He was supposed to code a script; didn't, spent my money. I guess he did not feel it made sense to make things right now since so much time has passed.
Always remember, business is business, and the only thing more import to people than money is family and even then
I have no family other than my son and I've invested my last chunk of change into my new venture.
So likely I'll
A) get my money back and my business plan is leaked
or
B) I don't get my money back and my business plan is leaked.
At this point I'm assuming it was leaked from the beginning as I was told "You probably have a maximum of 1 week before other people start figuring this out" Probably code for I'm taking your money and your idea, you have one week to figure it out, this was around July 7th almost 2 weeks ago.
HOW?
Why did you pay him in advance? What for? Etc etc
See above.
I was just thinking about it, I have been ripped off mainly by Canadians and one Dutch guy that got me pretty good. Server Genius, lent him a significant amount of money, never saw a Euro of that back.
Yeah, met and partied with him too. Don't loan money, don't buy stuff via Paypal and never pay up front.
Yeah but I'm having second thoughts about being part of a community that allows it, if GFY does.
I can contribute and spend my time on other non adult tech related platforms, while still working in adult, and be content.
It's kind of like facebook, if you're contributing and not benefiting, it's wasted energy.
If there's no true camaraderie, and it's expected that one of us will steal what another has left, if he can, then this isn't a good place for any of us.
There are some good people here, and people who work in adult are a rare breed, but we can meet up other places that aren't adult related you know
use amx with paying with paypal i did 15k in chargebacks on a coding company once that delivered shit.
they were shocked i was able to chargeback shit 6 months back.
dumbases
I wont every pay anyone with paypal without using a amx
Originally posted by baddog
See above.
I was just thinking about it, I have been ripped off mainly by Canadians and one Dutch guy that got me pretty good. Server Genius, lent him a significant amount of money, never saw a Euro of that back.
Yeah, met and partied with him too. Don't loan money, don't buy stuff via Paypal and never pay up front.
I was just thinking about it, I have been ripped off mainly by Canadians and one Dutch guy that got me pretty good. Server Genius, lent him a significant amount of money, never saw a Euro of that back.
Yeah, met and partied with him too. Don't loan money, don't buy stuff via Paypal and never pay up front.
Server Genius ... is that Hans?
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
Use a broker/middleman or a service that assures no payment goes to the programmer until it is finished.
But typically you may have to pay 50% down and risk that.
See above.
Originally posted by baddog
I was just thinking about it, I have been ripped off mainly by Canadians and one Dutch guy that got me pretty good. Server Genius, lent him a significant amount of money, never saw a Euro of that back.
Yeah, met and partied with him too. Don't loan money, don't buy stuff via Paypal and never pay up front.
Canadians? really? I have dealt with them quite a bit they are usually so nice!!
For not doing my due dilligence and refusing to give up on someone that should've been let go probably in the xx.xxx range. I can only blame myself for that though.
Scammed? No more than a few K over the years.
It's all just the cost of doing business... in any business.
Oddly nobody from the Shap thread answered my question a couple days ago asking if Freelancers.com might be a good alternative source for programmers. Fucking sucks right now
Freelancers.com is a great alternative. I have been using them for many years for both adults and mainstream programming. Completely safe and you can see their past work and reviews to ensure that they are not talking out their asses
I was scammed only once, and it was for less than 100 bucks.
However, upon completing a rather large project ($40.000 +), the client disappeared without paying me the last $2.000. It took months and a lot of headaches but I was finally able to track down one of his partners and got him to pay. In reality, I was lucky. When I finally get the money in my epass account, 2 days later epass shuts down and my 2k are frozen. About a month or so later I am finally able to extract my cash.
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The only time I've not been paid was by PinkStar Cash. However, the owner went in for an operation and was never heard from again. Eventually all of the sites expired. Still not sure what happened there; I am assuming the owner didn't make it out of the hospital.
I have lost a few thousand between them; I think StuartD got me for the most at around $1,500.
Never trust a guy that refuses to swear.
Interesting. I remember when he would post here a lot.
I have never been totally ripped off by hiring someone from GFY.
I've had more than one...maybe three.. designers who's nice samples in no way matched the quality of the work I received. But the work was at least done, and something was delivered to me.
The only direct P2P kind of deal that I got ripped off on happened on hahahahahahaha.
Otherwise, just industry standard stuff. IBill, Epass, programs that Dee bought, etc.
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It's been a while, but I seem to recall that was his real name.
Shame about Hans. At the core he was a rather nice fellow. His habit brought out the "rip-off" in him. Tried to sell me a laptop he didn't actually have when I met him.
He passed away a few years ago.
Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.
When you have not been referred to someone that you know and trust ...
independently research and check their references. Do not just email or call the references they have provide you. Second escrow larger payments.
Good luck!
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He only got me for $50 bucks, because anytime I had a deposit in epass I went to the 7/11 at the end of my street to withdraw it. I always thought it was crazy when people used epass like it was a fucking bank account..
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$8000 WTF? Did you pay them by PayPal? If not, were you able to recoup any of that money? What was the end result?
I'm in a tight spot and had total trust. I might have been completely scammed and this might have to be my first time sucking up my pride and admitting I was totally wrong.
Oddly nobody from the Shap thread answered my question a couple days ago asking if Freelancers.com might be a good alternative source for programmers. Fucking sucks right now
Yup, I paid Brandon Kagey lying scammers by Paypal. Worst, it was from my paypal balance so naturally fucking Paypal protects the scammer rather than the person being scammed (ME!).
$8000 WTF? Did you pay them by PayPal? If not, were you able to recoup any of that money? What was the end result?
I'm in a tight spot and had total trust. I might have been completely scammed and this might have to be my first time sucking up my pride and admitting I was totally wrong.
Oddly nobody from the Shap thread answered my question a couple days ago asking if Freelancers.com might be a good alternative source for programmers. Fucking sucks right now
Just pm'ed you. Try Cosmic Cosmic Development they aren't free but could be a good bet. My friend owns the company.
When you have not been referred to someone that you know and trust ...
independently research and check their references. Do not just email or call the references they have provide you. Second escrow larger payments.
Good luck!
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I'm amazed by the number of people who get scammed here. Most of the stories I hear it was someone going for the lowest bid, with someone with no track record or that person.
There's a reason some can come in at a very low price. And make profit margin of 100%.
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