Zuzana Designs

#50 Scammers so Leet they send the scammed profits to PayPal addresses they don't control.

Great point! If it's money that you have no idea why someone sent it to you, you should refund it right away as an error and contact the sender to let them know they sent a payment to the wrong address.

Quoted in case anyone in this thread who needs to see it missed it.

Zuzana is good in my book

Now I?m naive? Why - because I believe, with absolute certainty, the word (and screenshot) of a huge community member with a large network of sites that I?ve communicated and/or worked with for years and that I?m working with right now? I?m not going to drag him/her into this. He/she was kind enough to keep the conversation going like I asked to get a payment address. If he/she decides to come into this thread then great, but I?m not going to ask a client to get involved in this more than they already have unless they choose to

Give you a date or shut my mouth? I don?t have to give you anything. In fact, I?ve actually been pretty damn diplomatic towards you, despite what my own personal beliefs (and clearly everyone else?s) are about what is really going on here. If this was the other way around, I sure as hell wouldn?t be laughing and acting how you have been. I would be calling Paypal, contacting board admins hoping they could compare IP's and doing ANYTHING else I possibly could do to prove that I wasn?t involved in something going on.

These are my findings.

1. The email account [email protected] was linked to a Paypal account until around 10.30pm Australian time Friday.

2. The email account [email protected] is now not linked to a Paypal account.

There are three possible explanations.

1. The OP is lying.

2. The OP's Email account has been compromised either locally on his computer or remotely at his email server and the email attached to a Paypal account he has no control over.

3. The OP's Email account has been attached to the OP's Paypal account until last night however the OP is not the person sending the Skype messages.

I have told the OP that I confirmed his email address was linked to a Paypal account using an API and that now it is is not. I have also told the OP to check that his email account and or Paypal accounts have not been compromised.

On the theory of the OP being set up, I would not be able to discount that because some people with the right resources can go to great lengths to implicate someone they do not like if they are motivated enough. If the OP's passwords are not up to scratch then compromising his email and or Paypal account would be trivial.

In my opinion there is not enough evidence available to conclude that the OP is involved or not.

gfy because a pussy board, where the fuck are the red arrows?

Thanks so much for the info. Like I've said from the beginning, my hope has been to gather as much information as I can regardless of who the person is and just to warn everyone that if you are talking to this Skype user, you aren't talking to us.

However, according to http://gfy.com/20518807-post1.html ,CPA has already claimed his email address isn't linked to his Paypal so that would eliminate #3......so, this means if #3 was correct, it would still revert back to #1, even if it wasn't him sending the Skype message.

Whatever the outcome, everyone is hopefully now aware and will be cautious before sending money out on Skype to this other user. We always give out invoices, rarely give quotes over IM and barely even use it since we keep everything through email and our client management board

I'm leaning toward the theory his email account has been compromised.

He has explained his email set up and there are just too many points at which someone could compromise his account that he would not necessarily detect.

Whatever the case, if it wasn't him sending the messages, then he needs to thoroughly review his security and contact Paypal for his own peace of mind.

Does paypal actually even require you to confirm your email when adding an alternate email?

Yes, otherwise it's just a unilateral account.

WOW Great job at posting this thread. I have my own thoughts about what is going on here but wont post it here yet. Just in case I am wrong. At least this can be stop at this point. This should be done more often when shit like this happens.

TOM