So who's at the TOP of the Pyramid here? - GoFuckYourself.com

The Almighty Glands · 03-18-2003, 01:53 PM

Click-Thru sites are obviously a very complicated multi layered form of a rather elaborate MLM type business plan. How long have those at the top been there and is anyone in the middle actually making money here?

It seems the guy at the bottom just gets his bandwidth turned up a few thousand notches to fuel traffic for those in the middle who eventually direct that traffic to those at the very top.

Analysing the logs of another site that will remain unnamed it was determined that from the 300mb-500mb of daily server logs that the traffic all appeared to come from the same few places thus inflating the bandwidth to make the site appear to have 10's of thousands of visitors a day which really wasn't the case.

So what gives here.

(Yes, with respect to this I am a newbie).

How does anyone make money here or is this a dead oversaturated market?

MattO · 03-18-2003, 01:58 PM

That would be Ra, I believe

The Almighty Glands · 03-18-2003, 01:59 PM

Are there any real stats available as far as traffic vs payouts, etc?

If so, where can these be found, and have they been audited by a respected accounting firm?

DarkJedi · 03-18-2003, 02:02 PM

HungSolo · 03-18-2003, 02:03 PM

Are you a cop?

foreverjason · 03-18-2003, 02:04 PM

are you?

SteveLightspeed · 03-18-2003, 02:05 PM

There is an interesting challenge! Which sponsors would be willing to have their affiliate operation and payout accuracy audited and certified by a respectable accounting firm?

Why shouldn't there be some level of certification of accuracy in this biz -- like a "stats-accuracy rating system" ?

That would be fascinating just to see who would allow an audit of their systems and who wouldn't

the Shemp · 03-18-2003, 02:05 PM

RA is a good choice

The Almighty Glands · 03-18-2003, 02:06 PM

Cop, hell no.

Just an outspoken individual who is interested in learning about the click-thru business and how it works.

12clicks · 03-18-2003, 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by The Almighty Glands
Click-Thru sites are obviously a very complicated multi layered form of a rather elaborate MLM type business plan. How long have those at the top been there and is anyone in the middle actually making money here?

It seems the guy at the bottom just gets his bandwidth turned up a few thousand notches to fuel traffic for those in the middle who eventually direct that traffic to those at the very top.

Analysing the logs of another site that will remain unnamed it was determined that from the 300mb-500mb of daily server logs that the traffic all appeared to come from the same few places thus inflating the bandwidth to make the site appear to have 10's of thousands of visitors a day which really wasn't the case.

So what gives here.

(Yes, with respect to this I am a newbie).

How does anyone make money here or is this a dead oversaturated market?

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MattO · 03-18-2003, 02:07 PM

The Almighty Glands · 03-18-2003, 02:11 PM

Yeah,

Lightspeed has a good point.

The site I was speaking of was getting 15-30K a day in apparently unique visits as per the counter systems that the TGP sites use. However upon examination of the logs, all the traffic was coming from the same few IP's.

I've never seen anything like this and cannot see the true benefit of it except for the server hosting systems that will bill the customer and make huge profits from the bandwidth charges and the odd adult site that gets a few signups from the 100'000s of visitors.

I do notice that there are a lot of sites offering hosting for these TGP's.

The Almighty Glands · 03-18-2003, 02:12 PM

It would appear that MaTTo has read some Egyptian History.

Thomas N · 03-18-2003, 02:16 PM

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Originally posted by Lightspeed
There is an interesting challenge! Which sponsors would be willing to have their affiliate operation and payout accuracy audited and certified by a respectable accounting firm?

Why shouldn't there be some level of certification of accuracy in this biz -- like a "stats-accuracy rating system" ?

That would be fascinating just to see who would allow an audit of their systems and who wouldn't

I bet there isn't a pay per signup program on the net that could or would do that.

Now partnership programs, many if not most of them could probably do it. But pay per signup... well let's just put it this way: There's a reason most partnership programs provide access straight to the processors stats, and there's a reason no pay per signup program on earth provides access to processor stats.

Hint: it isn't a technical dilemma.

Penrod · 03-18-2003, 02:31 PM

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Originally posted by The Almighty Glands
It would appear that MaTTo has read some Egyptian History.

Maybe he just saw Stargate ith James Spader

DarkJedi · 03-18-2003, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by MattO

my thoughts exactly

03-18-2003, 01:53 PM	#1
The Almighty Glands Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Behind your girl! Posts: 56	So who's at the TOP of the Pyramid here? Click-Thru sites are obviously a very complicated multi layered form of a rather elaborate MLM type business plan. How long have those at the top been there and is anyone in the middle actually making money here? It seems the guy at the bottom just gets his bandwidth turned up a few thousand notches to fuel traffic for those in the middle who eventually direct that traffic to those at the very top. Analysing the logs of another site that will remain unnamed it was determined that from the 300mb-500mb of daily server logs that the traffic all appeared to come from the same few places thus inflating the bandwidth to make the site appear to have 10's of thousands of visitors a day which really wasn't the case. So what gives here. (Yes, with respect to this I am a newbie). How does anyone make money here or is this a dead oversaturated market?

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The Almighty Glands Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Behind your girl! Posts: 56	Are there any real stats available as far as traffic vs payouts, etc? If so, where can these be found, and have they been audited by a respected accounting firm?

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The Almighty Glands Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Behind your girl! Posts: 56	Cop, hell no. Just an outspoken individual who is interested in learning about the click-thru business and how it works.

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03-18-2003, 02:11 PM	#12
The Almighty Glands Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Behind your girl! Posts: 56	Yeah, Lightspeed has a good point. The site I was speaking of was getting 15-30K a day in apparently unique visits as per the counter systems that the TGP sites use. However upon examination of the logs, all the traffic was coming from the same few IP's. I've never seen anything like this and cannot see the true benefit of it except for the server hosting systems that will bill the customer and make huge profits from the bandwidth charges and the odd adult site that gets a few signups from the 100'000s of visitors. I do notice that there are a lot of sites offering hosting for these TGP's.

03-18-2003, 02:12 PM	#13
The Almighty Glands Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Behind your girl! Posts: 56	It would appear that MaTTo has read some Egyptian History.