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  • Sly
    Let's do some business!
    • Sep 2004
    • 31375
    #16
    Originally posted by VSKevin
    Lol, an awful taste plus weight gain. Sounds like a lose/lose to me.
    I have an in-depth rant on why you should never drink diet soda. I should write it out. LOL.

    Long story short, you are gaining nothing and only annoyed because you aren't drinking what you really want. Instead of drinking 5 cans of something you don't want, drink 1 can of what you do want. You will be happier and so will your body.

    Diet soda is a crock of shit.
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      • aka123
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        • Jul 2014
        • 4450
        #17
        Originally posted by Bryan G
        100 perfect false. You need to factor in carbs and sugar. If you are eating 1200 calories of donuts. How many grams of sugar is that? Want to lose weight? High protein, high fat and low carbs is how you will do it.
        No, it was pretty much correct. The only real difference comes from processing your food (the amount of energy it takes). Just energy wise it really doesn't matter that do you eat just sugar or some healthy stuff. Though it takes more energy to process raw carrots than sugar, but otherwise, assuming your body can use what you eat.

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          • aka123
            Confirmed User
            • Jul 2014
            • 4450
            #18
            To sum up this thread, especially as it was hijacked to be about USA:

            USA folks eat too much and use too much antibiotics, and even the animals they eat use too much antibiotics.

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              • Bryan G
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2005
                • 8338
                #19
                Originally posted by aka123
                No, it was pretty much correct. The only real difference comes from processing your food (the amount of energy it takes). Just energy wise it really doesn't matter that do you eat just sugar or some healthy stuff. Though it takes more energy to process raw carrots than sugar, but otherwise, assuming your body can use what you eat.
                Respectfully disagree with you. I have lost 32lbs and went from waist size 34 to 31. I don't watch my calorie intake but I do not eat sugar nor many carbs. As mentioned high protein, High fat, low carbs and zero sugar. That weight lose was without any excercise as well.
                Bryan
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                  • aka123
                    Confirmed User
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 4450
                    #20
                    Originally posted by Bryan G
                    Respectfully disagree with you. I have lost 32lbs and went from waist size 34 to 31. I don't watch my calorie intake but I do not eat sugar nor many carbs. As mentioned high protein, High fat, low carbs and zero sugar. That weight lose was without any excercise as well.
                    There is not that much energy in meat, though in fat there is. Your experience doesn't apply; we don't know the energy amount you ate and the sample is anyways way too small (1 person).

                    Most likely (99,9999999999999999999999% surely) you just ate less energy than before.

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                      • Sly
                        Let's do some business!
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 31375
                        #21
                        Originally posted by aka123
                        There is not that much energy in meat, though in fat there is. Your experience doesn't apply; we don't know the energy amount you ate and the sample is anyways way too small (1 person).
                        Eat 1,000 cal worth of carrots.

                        Eat 1,000 cal worth of Oreos.

                        Share the results.

                        https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...s%20the%20same

                        A calorie is a gross measurement, it tells you very little.

                        You will reply back with yet another nonsensical argument, like you usually do, so this will be my only reply.

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                          • aka123
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                            • Jul 2014
                            • 4450
                            #22
                            Originally posted by Sly
                            Eat 1,000 cal worth of carrots.

                            Eat 1,000 cal worth of Oreos.

                            Share the results.

                            https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...s%20the%20same

                            A calorie is a gross measurement, it tells you very little.

                            You will reply back with yet another nonsensical argument, like you usually do, so this will be my only reply.


                            I already (pro-actively) replied to your post, I even mentioned carrots. Also, I didn't talk about calories.

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                              • aka123
                                Confirmed User
                                • Jul 2014
                                • 4450
                                #23
                                Here: a very high carb diet, but I am quite sure you won't get fat. The gimmick is that your body can't process that (mostly), but this wonder diet surely proves something, but I don't know what (besides that your body can't process it).

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                                  • brandonstills
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Dec 2007
                                    • 1964
                                    #24
                                    biotic = of, relating to, or resulting from living things, especially in their ecological relations.

                                    So antibiotic basically means anti life.

                                    Of course it is going to have an adverse effect on living animals. It's only supposed to be used when there is a serious illness where you need to kill off foreign pathogens.

                                    Brandon Stills
                                    Industry and programming veteran
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                                      • brandonstills
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Dec 2007
                                        • 1964
                                        #25
                                        Originally posted by aka123
                                        No, it was pretty much correct. The only real difference comes from processing your food (the amount of energy it takes). Just energy wise it really doesn't matter that do you eat just sugar or some healthy stuff. Though it takes more energy to process raw carrots than sugar, but otherwise, assuming your body can use what you eat.
                                        That's not the whole equation though. If you only eat sugar you are going to spike your insulin. Which is a storage hormone, which means that excess energy goes straight to fat. You then have low blood sugar and get hungry again real soon. You also have low energy so you are less likely to exercise.

                                        Contrast that to the same amount of calories with high fat and moderate protein. It is going to stay in your blood stream much longer, you are going to stay satiated longer so you aren't as tempted to eat more, and you have energy so you are more likely to exercise. Also, it isn't going to spike insulin so it's not going to fat.

                                        Brandon Stills
                                        Industry and programming veteran
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                                          • bronco67
                                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                                            • Dec 2006
                                            • 29032
                                            #26
                                            ....and the internet makes you dumber.

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                                              • Paul
                                                Confirmed User
                                                • Nov 2002
                                                • 2637
                                                #27
                                                Originally posted by aka123
                                                No, it was pretty much correct. The only real difference comes from processing your food (the amount of energy it takes). Just energy wise it really doesn't matter that do you eat just sugar or some healthy stuff. Though it takes more energy to process raw carrots than sugar, but otherwise, assuming your body can use what you eat.
                                                This is incorrect, 1 calorie of carbohydrate isn't burnt the same a calorie of fat or protein nor does it give you the same energy profile.

                                                If you have a diet high in carbohydrates your insulin levels will be spiking up and down like a yo-yo throughout the day.

                                                Plus on the Satiety Index fats and protein satisfy our hunger for longer.

                                                Ignorance and misinformation has caused the obesity epidemic, due to these high carb diets a lot of people eat they are insulin resistant and leptin resistant which makes it very difficult for these people to lose weight because

                                                1) They're eating the wrong food &
                                                2) They are constantly hungry due to leptin resistance which is the hormone that regulates your appetite.

                                                So in summary Bryan G is absolutely correct

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                                                  • Paul
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 2637
                                                    #28
                                                    Originally posted by brandonstills
                                                    That's not the whole equation though. If you only eat sugar you are going to spike your insulin. Which is a storage hormone, which means that excess energy goes straight to fat. You then have low blood sugar and get hungry again real soon. You also have low energy so you are less likely to exercise.

                                                    Contrast that to the same amount of calories with high fat and moderate protein. It is going to stay in your blood stream much longer, you are going to stay satiated longer so you aren't as tempted to eat more, and you have energy so you are more likely to exercise. Also, it isn't going to spike insulin so it's not going to fat.

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                                                      • aka123
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Jul 2014
                                                        • 4450
                                                        #29
                                                        Originally posted by Paul
                                                        This is incorrect, 1 calorie of carbohydrate isn't burnt the same a calorie of fat or protein nor does it give you the same energy profile.

                                                        If you have a diet high in carbohydrates your insulin levels will be spiking up and down like a yo-yo throughout the day.

                                                        Plus on the Satiety Index fats and protein satisfy our hunger for longer.

                                                        Ignorance and misinformation has caused the obesity epidemic, due to these high carb diets a lot of people eat they are insulin resistant and leptin resistant which makes it very difficult for these people to lose weight because

                                                        1) They're eating the wrong food &
                                                        2) They are constantly hungry due to leptin resistance which is the hormone that regulates your appetite.

                                                        So in summary Bryan G is absolutely correct
                                                        I didn't say anything about satisfying hunger, nor I didn't mention calories. And I didn't say it is the same thing to eat different kinds of food (see that wood log example).

                                                        Cooking changes how much energy you can get from the food, etc. There are shitload of variables, but if you make the things even a little bit comparable, the issue getting fat isn't that different. The issue was that you can get as fat by eating healthy food as you can get by eating unhealthy food, and that hasn't changed. You can make things more comparable for example, if you insist using calories; by calculating digestible calories. That how we eliminate the differences between wooden logs and beef and raw food vs cooked food.

                                                        If the goal was to eat as much as you can without getting fat, you know, real pig style eating, then of course; you can eat bigger volumes some foods than others. For example you can eat quite huge volumes of wooden logs. But throwing up after eating has also been invented, so..

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                                                          • Paul
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2002
                                                            • 2637
                                                            #30
                                                            I think I'm going to follow Sly's lead and exit this thread

                                                            Your nonsensical argument is not worth replying to.

                                                            High Fat/Protein diet = Easy to control weight
                                                            High Carb/Low Protein/Fat diet = Hard to control weight

                                                            Yes it really is that simple

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