Why are so many people afraid to fly? - GoFuckYourself.com

kenny · 03-17-2003, 01:00 AM

In the US the people who refuse to fly post 911. Are they that cowardly? I am getting sick of hearing about airlines going out of buisness. Are you afraid to fly because of 911? Know of anyone who is? I would like to know, I don't know of any, but obviously there is alot of people who are.

Kanoealoha · 03-17-2003, 01:02 AM

gee I think it might be the crashing part...
but really...I don't know why, my brother died in a plane crash and I have no prob flying...if you're ready to die...fly!

p00p · 03-17-2003, 01:04 AM

We have flown several times post 911. In our eyes, if you are gonna die, you are gonna die....

Gman.357 · 03-17-2003, 01:05 AM

Well, the media is a big part of why pple in the US are affraid after 911. Basically, when you constantly are fed images of planes crashing into buildings, and hear reports of shoe bombers and idiots trying to get on planes with chainsaws and pipe-bombs, it starts to affect some people.

Then others like myself simply hate to fly because falling 30,000 feet to my death gives me way too much time to think about what a shithead I've been.

Muff · 03-17-2003, 01:08 AM

Flying is still the safest travel method.

Mined you I dont like flying because it is so confined even if you're in first class.

kenny · 03-17-2003, 01:12 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357
Well, the media is a big part of why pple in the US are affraid after 911. Basically, when you constantly are fed images of planes crashing into buildings, and hear reports of shoe bombers and idiots trying to get on planes with chainsaws and pipe-bombs, it starts to affect some people.

Then others like myself simply hate to fly because falling 30,000 feet to my death gives me way too much time to think about what a shithead I've been.

I can understand a life long phobia. I am just pissed about the post 911 drop outs. In a way the terroist have scored a major victory by fucking up the economy.

Gman.357 · 03-17-2003, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by kenny

I can understand a life long phobia. I am just pissed about the post 911 drop outs. In a way the terroist have scored a major victory by fucking up the economy.

I totally agree. The airlines took a major hit post 911. People are damn cowards. We took a flight to Florida in November. Like a day after that plane took a nosedive into Queens.

I was fuckin nervous, but what can you do? You gotta get where you gotta go. Especially now, more than ever, with this on-again off-again "war", our citizens should be doing all they can to support the economy.

Get on those planes people! Take a vacation.

kenny · 03-17-2003, 01:19 AM

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Originally posted by Muff
Flying is still the safest travel method.

Mined you I dont like flying because it is so confined even if you're in first class.

There may be little room, but how else you gonna get there that fast?

I just can't understand the people who are like " I ain't flying with them terroist around"
Its all these soft people fucking up the economy, not bush, not Iraq, not Al qaida. "I ain't buying a new car with this war coming".
People still have money but they wouldnt spend it. That causes a bad reaction no circluation, bad economy

Muff · 03-17-2003, 01:22 AM

I was watching a special on Boeing the other day and they have started testing the new 777 they cut production time in half which is pretty amazing.

Maybe we can get a little more leg room now

Socks · 03-17-2003, 01:24 AM

It's those big jumping buildings.. Never know when one might jump in front of you

kenny · 03-17-2003, 01:24 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

I totally agree. The airlines took a major hit post 911. People are damn cowards. We took a flight to Florida in November. Like a day after that plane took a nosedive into Queens.

I was fuckin nervous, but what can you do? You gotta get where you gotta go. Especially now, more than ever, with this on-again off-again "war", our citizens should be doing all they can to support the economy.

Get on those planes people! Take a vacation.

I agree people need to fly! I have a flight in a couple of days. Going to visit some old friends and party in Canada. I am actually looking forward to drinkin some whiskey and working on my notebook on the plane.

Muff · 03-17-2003, 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by kenny

There may be little room, but how else you gonna get there that fast?

I just can't understand the people who are like " I ain't flying with them terroist around"
Its all these soft people fucking up the economy, not bush, not Iraq, not Al qaida. "I ain't buying a new car with this war coming".
People still have money but they wouldnt spend it. That causes a bad reaction no circluation, bad economy

Exactly. what exactly are you going to buy when there is nothing left anyways?

Gman.357 · 03-17-2003, 01:26 AM

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Originally posted by kenny

I agree people need to fly! I have a flight in a couple of days. Going to visit some old friends and party in Canada. I am actually looking forward to drinkin some whiskey and working on my notebook on the plane.

Have fun! Sounds like a good time.

Mark · 03-17-2003, 01:27 AM

Its dangerous!

This is essental reading before any flight..

http://www.airdisaster.com

Joe Sixpack · 03-17-2003, 01:29 AM

I love flying.

I'd give my left nut to be on a plane to Amsterdam now.

kenny · 03-17-2003, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by Muff

Exactly. what exactly are you going to buy when there is nothing left anyways?

What did all the good vacation spots vanish? What do you mean nothing left? The economy is being effected by the people who afraid to spent money. Everything is still there

Sputter · 03-17-2003, 01:31 AM

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Originally posted by kenny
In the US the people who refuse to fly post 911. Are they that cowardly? I am getting sick of hearing about airlines going out of buisness. Are you afraid to fly because of 911? Know of anyone who is? I would like to know, I don't know of any, but obviously there is alot of people who are.

People have no dough right now and are afraid of dying. It makes walking more appealing does it not?

Sputter

kenny · 03-17-2003, 01:32 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
I love flying.

I'd give my left nut to be on a plane to Amsterdam now.

We are planning a summer trip to Amsterdam, I have never been. I hear its a must. Got to give it a try

Joe Sixpack · 03-17-2003, 01:36 AM

Anyone who never leaves their own country during their life should be shot in the head.

There is no excuse for being that ignorant.

Muff · 03-17-2003, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by kenny

What did all the good vacation spots vanish? What do you mean nothing left? The economy is being effected by the people who afraid to spent money. Everything is still there

Nothing left but ruble I ment.

Gman.357 · 03-17-2003, 01:36 AM

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Originally posted by Sputter

People have no dough right now and are afraid of dying. It makes walking more appealing does it not?

Sputter

Yeah, I'm gonna WALK to fuckin Florida for my next business meeting. It's not unitl July, but I better get going now if I'm gonna make it on time.

Gman.357 · 03-17-2003, 01:38 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
Anyone who never leaves their own country during their life should be shot in the head.

There is no excuse for being that ignorant.

Tell that to the Iraqi citizens..

kenny · 03-17-2003, 01:39 AM

The tickets are so damn cheap these days I should try to take as many vacations as possible. I recommend everyone take advantage and go on vacation

Joe Sixpack · 03-17-2003, 01:41 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Tell that to the Iraqi citizens..

Okay... and who lives in a first world country.

Sorry, that needed qualification.

Gman.357 · 03-17-2003, 01:44 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack

Okay... and who lives in a first world country.

Sorry, that needed qualification.

Arguably, ANYTHING you say may require qualification.

escorpio · 03-17-2003, 01:47 AM

I have always hated flying. I hate airports. The lines, security, etc. I hate squeezing onto the plane with a bunch of idiots that drag all thier shit on and jam the aisles trying to stuff it in the overhead bins. And I really hate the way those same stupid fuckers leap up and jam the fucking aisles the second the plane comes to a stop. I have flown only once since 9-11 and I hate it even more now. One way ticket purchased less than 5 days in advance so I was singled out as a security risk and searched and hassled every five fucking feet. If it wasn't for Valium or Xanax I could never do it. The airlines have always made it an uncomfortable ordeal and now the new security is making it intolerable.

Joe Sixpack · 03-17-2003, 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Arguably, ANYTHING you say may require qualification.

Shut yer dirty filthy cake hole.

I'm drunk. Show some respect.

kenny · 03-17-2003, 01:51 AM

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Originally posted by escorpio
I have always hated flying. I hate airports. The lines, security, etc. I hate squeezing onto the plane with a bunch of idiots that drag all thier shit on and jam the aisles trying to stuff it in the overhead bins. And I really hate the way those same stupid fuckers leap up and jam the fucking aisles the second the plane comes to a stop. I have flown only once since 9-11 and I hate it even more now. One way ticket purchased less than 5 days in advance so I was singled out as a security risk and searched and hassled every five fucking feet. If it wasn't for Valium or Xanax I could never do it. The airlines have always made it an uncomfortable ordeal and now the new security is making it intolerable.

Well obviously high security measures is a must. I rather fly for 8 hours then drive for 24. I am not about to let a few minor headaches detour me from a good time.

Gman.357 · 03-17-2003, 01:53 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack

Shut yer dirty filthy cake hole.

I'm drunk. Show some respect.

Who said I was speaking specifically about you? See how arrogant YOU are? When I said "you", I meant it as a generalization. Anything anyone says can arguably require qualification.

But now that you decided to expose the fact you are an enebriated, cum-guzzling homo with an over-inflated ego and small dick, I'll be more than happy to direct these next frew words directly AT you...

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

(an impossibility to be sure, if your cock is anywhere near the size of your brain).

XxXotic · 03-17-2003, 01:54 AM

im afraid of heights

Joe Sixpack · 03-17-2003, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Who said I was speaking specifically about you? See how arrogant YOU are? When I said "you", I meant it as a generalization. Anything anyone says can arguably require qualification.

But now that you decided to expose the fact you are an enebriated, cum-guzzling homo with an over-inflated ego and small dick, I'll be more than happy to direct these next frew words directly AT you...

GO FUCK YOURSELF.

(an impossibility to be sure, if your cock is anywhere near the size of your brain).

My cock is huge... and being a drunkard is an honourable hobby. You obviously haven't read any Bukowski.

And you can GO FUCK YOURSELF... although I'm reasonably sure you have some sweaty tattoed biker fucking you as we speak.

God forgive that fact that you are an American.

Gman.357 · 03-17-2003, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by Joe Sixpack

My cock is huge... and being a drunkard is an honourable hobby. You obviously haven't read any Bukowski.

And you can GO FUCK YOURSELF... although I'm reasonably sure you have some sweaty tattoed biker fucking you as we speak.

God forgive that fact that you are an American.

Charles Bukowski was a beatnik. I dont' read beat literature.

escorpio · 03-17-2003, 02:06 AM

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Originally posted by kenny

Well obviously high security measures is a must. I rather fly for 8 hours then drive for 24. I am not about to let a few minor headaches detour me from a good time.

I really enjoy driving and even bus travel but you're right it's that damn time thing that gets me on planes.

XSpider · 03-17-2003, 02:20 AM

Next to being an adult webmaster, i am an airline pilot (freelance) and actually as a pilot i haven't seen any drop in pax since 911. As before all the flights i do are over 90% full. Alot of airliners where in trouble prior to 911.... alot of them are also taking 911 as an excuse to fire people to get out of trouble.... the presure on the management of airliners isn't as big as before 911, now they have a reason to fire them. Anyway.... nobody should be afraid of flying, the media makes people scared to take an aricraft latelly. All those talks about making it secure by giving the pilots a gun license and let them carry one and making heavy gunproof cockpit doors is also alot of BS.... they should look at security BEFORE the aircraft (airport), thighten things up there. It's pretty pointless to do all that stuff aboard the aircraft..... and in my opinion a gun is the most dangerous thing on an aircraft, even in hands of the guys flying it. A bullit hole in the fuselage can result in decompression, dive, even the fuselage falling appart if it is at high altittude and cruising at 350 knots. But the one thing i know is this: any terror group won't target airliners anymore.... i would be more affraid to stand at the busstation waiting for the bus then to get into my office at 35.000 feet

Don't believe it guys, airliners aren't doing any different in passangers then before 911, they just play it out as an excuse... still the same pax and same money getting lost in the airline industry.... exept for one thing... now they can blame it on something else then bad management.

XSpider · 03-17-2003, 02:26 AM

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Originally posted by Mark
Its dangerous!

This is essental reading before any flight..

http://www.airdisaster.com

Mark,

If you consider flying dangerous because of sites like that... i can tell you this, if i would make a site http://www.cardesaster.com i would have alot more RIP's on my site :-)

Mark · 03-17-2003, 03:15 AM

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Originally posted by XSpider

Mark,

If you consider flying dangerous because of sites like that... i can tell you this, if i would make a site http://www.cardesaster.com i would have alot more RIP's on my site :-)

I consider it dangerous due to the fact that we are in a metal tube at 35,000 feet travelling at 500+ mph which just isn't natural!

Having said that I like flying and do so fairly often - the only part I hate is the hours of security checks and then being cramped up on longhaul flights (4 damn flights each way to the last internext was not fun!) - even in biz class it sucks!

As for that site its quite reassuring to read about a recent plane crash somewhere coz it lowers the chances of a crash on the next plane I get on..

Probably DVT is a bigger danger than crashes, at least on long haul flights..

Serge Litehead · 03-17-2003, 05:12 AM

i love to fly, i do it usually 2-5 times a year
many ppl i see on airplanes actually pray at the flight start and before touch down, before and after 911

justsexxx · 03-17-2003, 06:13 AM

I HATE flying, not because of the 9/11 thing. But it scares me because I have no control over what's going on.

I mean when a plane goes down, nothing you can do, and you are 99.999% dead for sure...

I have no idea why I have that feeling,because I know a higher % dies in a car, but that is just the way I feel it

Andre

Hot Tropical Babes · 03-17-2003, 06:20 AM

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Originally posted by justsexxx
I HATE flying, not because of the 9/11 thing. But it scares me because I have no control over what's going on.

I mean when a plane goes down, nothing you can do, and you are 99.999% dead for sure...

I have no idea why I have that feeling,because I know a higher % dies in a car, but that is just the way I feel it

Andre

thats the way i feel too!

I am not really afraid to fly,,,,, its just that sudden combustable stop that scares me.

12clicks · 03-17-2003, 06:42 AM

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Originally posted by kenny
In the US the people who refuse to fly post 911. Are they that cowardly? I am getting sick of hearing about airlines going out of buisness. Are you afraid to fly because of 911? Know of anyone who is? I would like to know, I don't know of any, but obviously there is alot of people who are.

It has nothing to do with fear.
Americans refuse to be treated like criminals because of a handful of muslim terrorists.
As long as the airlines and the government treat 65yr old grandmothers the same way they treat towel heads, the airlines will continue to have problems.

Shok · 03-17-2003, 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by Gman.357

Then others like myself simply hate to fly because falling 30,000 feet to my death gives me way too much time to think about what a shithead I've been.

You must be a very lucky person and I would play the lotto if I were you because you have a better chance of winning the lotto then being hit lightening while being attacked by a shark all at the same time

Man I have been in so many incidents on planes, my friends wont even fly with me anymore. Ive been in planes that the engine came apart on, hydraulic failures, blown tires, severe turbulance, failed electrical systems....etc etc......but Im still alive

Plus you know if you really think about it, dieing in a crash is a pretty good way to go...you wont feel shit and your family is gonna get a payday. Besides that, the truth is that people walk away from 75% of plane accidents, but of course the news only focuses on the ones doing the death dive from 30,000 ft on fire.

Betray · 03-17-2003, 07:52 AM

knowing for that whole 3 mins your about to die and you cant do anything about it.. its like knowing you would die in 2 days..
once something goes wrong in that plane and that nose goes down you know praying wont help.

FlyingIguana · 03-17-2003, 07:53 AM

per number of flights, aren't there more airplane crashes then deaths per number of drivers for cars? doesn't look like planes are more safe than automobiles.

justsexxx · 03-17-2003, 08:02 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
per number of flights, aren't there more airplane crashes then deaths per number of drivers for cars? doesn't look like planes are more safe than automobiles.

Nope, more changed of being killed in a car....(in The Netherlands at least)

Andre

FlyingIguana · 03-17-2003, 08:07 AM

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Originally posted by justsexxx

Nope, more changed of being killed in a car....(in The Netherlands at least)

Andre

ah ok, the numbers for airlines were wrong. guess for someone on a bike like me the fatality rate must be 1000x greater than flying. so many idiots on the road.

Shok · 03-17-2003, 08:09 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
per number of flights, aren't there more airplane crashes then deaths per number of drivers for cars? doesn't look like planes are more safe than automobiles.

There were 0 deaths from airline crashes in the U.S. for the year 2002. Pretty amazing. Flying is getting safer and safer.

Deaths from car crashes were in the tens of thousands.

FlyingIguana · 03-17-2003, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by Shok

There were 0 deaths from airline crashes in the U.S. for the year 2002. Pretty amazing. Flying is getting safer and safer.

Deaths from car crashes were in the tens of thousands.

there's less people that fly than people that drive. so you can't look at aggregate numbers

XSpider · 03-18-2003, 02:26 AM

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Originally posted by Betray
knowing for that whole 3 mins your about to die and you cant do anything about it.. its like knowing you would die in 2 days..
once something goes wrong in that plane and that nose goes down you know praying wont help.

Actually i would leave that decision to the ones flying it... if the nose goes down that doesn't mean you have to start praying, think of this:
of all the systems in an aircraft (about 2 million per heavy jet) only 2 need to work in order to keep it flying, engines and flight controls and those are backed up and backed up again...
The chanse of those two failing is practicly 0. And nose down in some situations IS a standard procedure, as strange as it may sound :-)

Joe Sixpack · 03-18-2003, 02:28 AM

People who are afraid of flying are goddamned pussies.

Bottom line.

Grow some testicles and grab that boarding pass.

03-17-2003, 01:00 AM	#1
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	Why are so many people afraid to fly? In the US the people who refuse to fly post 911. Are they that cowardly? I am getting sick of hearing about airlines going out of buisness. Are you afraid to fly because of 911? Know of anyone who is? I would like to know, I don't know of any, but obviously there is alot of people who are.

03-17-2003, 01:02 AM	#2
Kanoealoha Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Happy Valley Posts: 1,261	gee I think it might be the crashing part... but really...I don't know why, my brother died in a plane crash and I have no prob flying...if you're ready to die...fly! __________________ Strong Bad Rocks!

03-17-2003, 01:05 AM	#4
Gman.357 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 2,796	Well, the media is a big part of why pple in the US are affraid after 911. Basically, when you constantly are fed images of planes crashing into buildings, and hear reports of shoe bombers and idiots trying to get on planes with chainsaws and pipe-bombs, it starts to affect some people. Then others like myself simply hate to fly because falling 30,000 feet to my death gives me way too much time to think about what a shithead I've been. __________________ Ouch.

03-17-2003, 01:47 AM	#26
escorpio I love to racism, bro! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA! USA! USA! Posts: 23,133	I have always hated flying. I hate airports. The lines, security, etc. I hate squeezing onto the plane with a bunch of idiots that drag all thier shit on and jam the aisles trying to stuff it in the overhead bins. And I really hate the way those same stupid fuckers leap up and jam the fucking aisles the second the plane comes to a stop. I have flown only once since 9-11 and I hate it even more now. One way ticket purchased less than 5 days in advance so I was singled out as a security risk and searched and hassled every five fucking feet. If it wasn't for Valium or Xanax I could never do it. The airlines have always made it an uncomfortable ordeal and now the new security is making it intolerable. __________________ Unvaxxed, still alive.

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03-17-2003, 01:04 AM	#3
p00p Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: CanaDUH Posts: 5,125	We have flown several times post 911. In our eyes, if you are gonna die, you are gonna die....

03-17-2003, 01:08 AM	#5
Muff Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,782	Flying is still the safest travel method. Mined you I dont like flying because it is so confined even if you're in first class.

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Muff Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,782	I was watching a special on Boeing the other day and they have started testing the new 777 they cut production time in half which is pretty amazing. Maybe we can get a little more leg room now

03-17-2003, 01:24 AM	#10
Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	It's those big jumping buildings.. Never know when one might jump in front of you

03-17-2003, 01:27 AM	#14
Mark Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 600	Its dangerous! This is essental reading before any flight.. http://www.airdisaster.com

03-17-2003, 01:29 AM	#15
Joe Sixpack So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,793	I love flying. I'd give my left nut to be on a plane to Amsterdam now.

03-17-2003, 01:36 AM	#19
Joe Sixpack So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,793	Anyone who never leaves their own country during their life should be shot in the head. There is no excuse for being that ignorant.

03-17-2003, 01:39 AM	#23
kenny Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 7,245	The tickets are so damn cheap these days I should try to take as many vacations as possible. I recommend everyone take advantage and go on vacation

03-17-2003, 02:20 AM	#34
XSpider Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Belgium Posts: 356	Next to being an adult webmaster, i am an airline pilot (freelance) and actually as a pilot i haven't seen any drop in pax since 911. As before all the flights i do are over 90% full. Alot of airliners where in trouble prior to 911.... alot of them are also taking 911 as an excuse to fire people to get out of trouble.... the presure on the management of airliners isn't as big as before 911, now they have a reason to fire them. Anyway.... nobody should be afraid of flying, the media makes people scared to take an aricraft latelly. All those talks about making it secure by giving the pilots a gun license and let them carry one and making heavy gunproof cockpit doors is also alot of BS.... they should look at security BEFORE the aircraft (airport), thighten things up there. It's pretty pointless to do all that stuff aboard the aircraft..... and in my opinion a gun is the most dangerous thing on an aircraft, even in hands of the guys flying it. A bullit hole in the fuselage can result in decompression, dive, even the fuselage falling appart if it is at high altittude and cruising at 350 knots. But the one thing i know is this: any terror group won't target airliners anymore.... i would be more affraid to stand at the busstation waiting for the bus then to get into my office at 35.000 feet Don't believe it guys, airliners aren't doing any different in passangers then before 911, they just play it out as an excuse... still the same pax and same money getting lost in the airline industry.... exept for one thing... now they can blame it on something else then bad management.

03-17-2003, 05:12 AM	#37
Serge Litehead Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Behind the scenes Posts: 5,190	i love to fly, i do it usually 2-5 times a year many ppl i see on airplanes actually pray at the flight start and before touch down, before and after 911 __________________ SilverCrocodile.com Adult web design since '05

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justsexxx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 13,723	I HATE flying, not because of the 9/11 thing. But it scares me because I have no control over what's going on. I mean when a plane goes down, nothing you can do, and you are 99.999% dead for sure... I have no idea why I have that feeling,because I know a higher % dies in a car, but that is just the way I feel it Andre __________________ Questions? ICQ: 125184542

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Betray Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 346	knowing for that whole 3 mins your about to die and you cant do anything about it.. its like knowing you would die in 2 days.. once something goes wrong in that plane and that nose goes down you know praying wont help.

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FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	per number of flights, aren't there more airplane crashes then deaths per number of drivers for cars? doesn't look like planes are more safe than automobiles.

03-18-2003, 02:28 AM	#49
Joe Sixpack So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,793	People who are afraid of flying are goddamned pussies. Bottom line. Grow some testicles and grab that boarding pass.